The first, N. Korea’s Abduction of U.S. Permanent Resident Fades From Official View, details the sad case of Christian missionary Kim Dong-shik, a Korean citizen and US permanent resident allegedly kidnapped to North Korea for his activities in aiding refugees hiding in northeastern China. He is probably deceased, but his widow continues to work with US lawmakers in learning Reverend Kim Dong-shik’s fate from the North Koreans. Joshua at OFK has more details on the appearance of the story in today’s Washington Post.
Buried in the Virginia section of the paper is a second story about greater DC area law enforcement agencies hiring Asian-American police officers and civilians to facilitate closer relations with and improve services in local Asian-American communities. The story notes the underrepresentation of Asian-Americans in local law enforcement:
Fairfax, with 40 Asian American officers, has one of the biggest such contingents of area departments, but those officers are about 3 percent of the county’s force. About 15 percent of Fairfax residents are of Asian background, census figures show.
I wonder if one reason for the paucity of Asian-American police officers is that the occupation is not seen as desirable among ethnic Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, and other Asian-Americans.
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I highly recommend everyone go over to One Free Korea and read more about the background information in regards to the Kim Dong-shik story because it makes the fact that the Washington Post actually published the story that much more surprising.
“I wonder if one reason for the paucity of Asian-American police officers is that the occupation is not seen as desirable among ethnic Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese, and other Asian-Americans.”
Probably has to do more with the requirements to become a cop. Believe me, once the East-asians see an easy ride they take it.
What’s so wrong with the extraordinary rendition of religious fanatic?
If you guys care so much about the issue, why don’t you go to the border and save some souls.
SW Lee, by your own standards, I’m sure you’d fit right in North of the DMZ.
hi josh.
I’ve always wondered, what kind of NK activist are you: right wing nut, happy clappy, or a bit of both?
Not that there’s anything wrong with either…
It’s sporting of you, Joshua, to take time out of your exceptionally busy schedule to respond to an unfunny troll.
An exceptionally busy schedule is something guys say they have to girls they don’t want to see again.
It’s a euphemism for “No girl, I’m not putting it in you again.”
Anyway, back to the purpose of the thread. I personally prefer happy clappy NK Activists. Unlike the right wing nut variety, they sometimes cause good, sometimes suffer interesting misadventures, and the girls have a shine to their eye that makes them look like they are perpetually orgasming. That’s probably why most guys go to church.
In the Asian countries mentioned above, the police are seen as a corrupt and inept organization, not a professional and able force. Put it simply, as a regular citizen the police is something you want to avoid. So the stigma of the police forces in those countries may be keeping people from those countries away. But who knows maybe things will change.
So for the record, Rev. Kim was a wheelchair-bound man who was in China harming no one and trying to save the lives of refugees. For which you believe he deserved kidnapping, torture, and murder.
It’s guys like you who have earned Korea the abiding admiration, affection, and respect of virtually no one. I know how much you must crave attention. Trust me, it’s the wrong kind. Back under the rock you go.
So you’d try to save him then, right?
“For which you believe he deserved kidnapping, torture, and murder.”
I don’t remember saying that. Perhaps you should have put the words rape, pillage and ridiculing by a 13 year old Hispanic girl on the internet into my mouth too.
Ole!
Joshua,
Let’s not be too harsh with our young friend who hasn’t yet ripened through two years of compulsory military service.
Assume away.
Remember what happened the last time a mad old Korean-American happy clappy with friends in Washington returned to the peninsula?
What a different world we might live in if he had been disappeared?
To quote the democratically elected leader of the German people in the 1930s, “You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”
swlee: The banality of … banality.
@11 Suweeeee! Suwee-suwee-suweee!
The logical conclusion to “What’s so wrong with the extraordinary rendition of [a] religious fanatic?” is that you don’t have a problem with North Korea torturing and murdering a man who was saving the lives of refugees, unless you think they used tickle torture this time. “Extraordinary rendition” is also referred to as “torture by proxy,” so it was implied (assuming that you actually understand what you write, and that’s a BIG assumption).
I’m sure the North Koreans probably just waterboarded him and then sent him to some NK island resort version of Club Gitmo.
Your world view makes so much sense. The US is the same as North Korea. The US also tortures and murders religious fanatics who are trying to save lives, not terrorists who bomb buses and marketplaces full of innocent civilians. The US starves its citizens and takes away their freedoms. The US intentionally puts mad cow virus into beef and sends it to Korea. 9-11 was an inside job, Bush lied - people died, Area 51 has an alien spaceship, and all the other Internet rumors ad nauseam. Keep your candle and Che T-shirt handy - I’m sure another Internet rumor about the evil US is in the works and they’ll need you at the protests…
P.S. Beware the black helicopters!
@13 Suweee!
The Nazi Party was officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) that had elements of ethnic nationalism, racism, and collectivism. In other words, your party of choice, brownshirt.
@ #2 Hardyandtiny
“Believe me, once the East-asians see an easy ride they take it.”
Did I mention my wife is white?
@16
Where would we be without Google and wiki?
You sir, are a fount of knowledge.
“In the Asian countries mentioned above, the police are seen as a corrupt and inept organization, not a professional and able force. Put it simply, as a regular citizen the police is something you want to avoid. So the stigma of the police forces in those countries may be keeping people from those countries away. But who knows maybe things will change.”
As the immigrant family deepens its roots, the perception does change… a guy I know was a 2nd generation Korean who was with Phoenix Police, then worked as a ‘youth leader’ in a church after busting his knees, then applied and got into FBI. I’m still scratching my head as to how the hell he got in, considering that his knee was still less than perfect.
But the whole historical baggage thing does seem to shape the image of cops for many Asian Americans, at least from what I can tell. And it’s something deeper and more complex than your typical “F*ck the pigs” deal.
@17 Suweee!
Your clever response is “Damn Google and Wiki?” LOL!
I study history and knew this before Google and Wiki ever existed. However, does it really make sense to whine about someone using references to make an argument (granted it’s a foreign concept in this country)? Besides, you actually have to know something to know what to look for.
Given that it’s dominated by leftists and that Wikipedia is the encyclopedia anybody can edit, I don’t consider it to be a highly trustworthy source.
P.S. Yes. I am most definitely a fountain of knowledge, which is better than a wikiwhore troll.
He had law enforcement experience and he speaks Korean. I see ads for the FBI, CIA, and other federal agencies begging for qualified applicants proficient in high needs languages like Korean Chinese, Arabic, Pashto, and Urdu and able to pass a thorough background check.
@17 Suweee!
…trash?
You also didn’t mention her facial hair and cranial ridge.
Why anyone gives oxygen to these trolls is beyond me. No response to inane remarks -> no more inane remarks.
It takes two to tango
But the whole historical baggage thing does seem to shape the image of cops for many Asian Americans, at least from what I can tell. And it’s something deeper and more complex than your typical “F*ck the pigs” deal.
That’s news to me.
My friend since childhood whose also 2nd gen always dreamed of being in law enforcement. He graduated from criminal justice college, worked for the boy scouts for awhile. At about the time when the East Coast sniper incident was happening, he went down to Maryland to apply to the police dept. He wasn’t accepted because he had too many traffic violations on his record. Eventually he wound up as regional inspector for the Department of Fatherland Security.
@24 Suweee!
Did you find that on wikiquotes?
And I thought you were doing the Hokey Pokey…
23. Agreed. If you don’t believe in trolls, don’t respond to them. No matter how much creativity or thought you put into your posts (12, 14, 15). Trolls only know one thing: trolling.
Is it just me or do you have to be more than just your usual badass muthafucka to get on these lists these days? I mean kidnapping people, nuclear weapons, test-firing missiles, threatening the demolition of supercities, executing millions of your own citizens… Kim Jong-il is losing his edge.
I think the only country hardcore enough to deserve being on this list is Iran.
swlee is typical of most Koreans, they generally talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.
Kinda like pawi. He thinks he’s a Korean national, but is nothing more than a hypocritical draft dodger and does nothing for his fatherland except talk.
If anyone should be helping Koreans, it’s Koreans. After all, Koreans aren’t selfish, they are kind and warm hearted. I think swlee is a good example of this.
It sucks that one of the very few Koreans that actually try to help their so called brothers in the North maybe dead.
May he RIP.
@john T
thankyou for giving me the benefit of the doubt and calling me kind and warm hearted. Many foreign commenters here often misinterpret my vehement hatred for colonial-style attitudes as a personal affront, or my references to stereotypes regarding exGIs or english teachers as personal attacks.
America has long been in a position to prevent suffering in North Korea and promote re-unification at the same time, that they persist in calling for rollback and ignore our pleas only engenders dislike. Historically America is the single state entity most responsible for the division, and we would like to see it rectify its belligerence on the issue.
I hope you take this in good faith, but I’m afraid you do know enough about me (or perhaps ‘other koreans’ as well )to be able to make a statement such as “swlee is typical of most Koreans, they generally talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.”
Its rally a very lame generalization, and quite limp as an insult as well.
@30 swlee
The US does bear some responsibility for the division, especially Truman, but “most responsible” is going too far. The USSR and China also hold a huge amount of responsibility, and don’t forget the UN. There were many possibilities for one unified Korea under Japan, under the USSR, under the north Koreans (China), or under the south Koreans (US). I’m not sure which scenario you prefer, but I think MacArthur should have been allowed to fight on (and bomb China out of the war like he wanted to) for a unified Korea under the southern government followed by a drawback of US involvement.
As for preventing suffering in the north and promoting reunification, the US has indeed been in a position to influence those causes. The Bush Administration first criticized the Clinton policies and then pretty much did the same thing. Giving food and heavy oil aid to NK does not help the “average 조” but allows kji to direct resources to other pet projects (read: missiles and nuclear technology). The “Sunshine Policy” of kdj that was continued by rmh is also very bad for the same reasons. Like John Bolton, I think the solution is to stop aid and completely cut them off economically to quicken the collapse of the northern regime and minimize the time people up there will suffer. I’m guessing you disagree.
# 15. I see young american GI’s wearing che t-shirts,at work,on civvies Friday. So much history means Jack Shit these days.
Typical indeed of swlee to blame the Americans, who would like nothing more than for North Korea to collapse and be absorbed by the south. The person who really bears the blame, but whom Koreans rarely blame, is that ueber-Korean Kim Jong-il, who could solve everything by simply giving up.
But North Korean-style rule fits the personalities of so many Koreans to a “t” — how else to explain the admiration of the north by so many in the south.
As far as his hatred of “post-colonial” attitudes, that can be explained by the shame caused by “they hurt our pride” and the fact that it is impossible to reconcile the ingrained belief that Koreans are superior to everyone with the real world.
#33
I do believe that you have hit the nail right on the head!
@15 jag
Maybe you can convince some of them to get this t-shirt instead:
http://17503.spreadshirt.com/u.....cle/972932
http://che-mart.com/
@33 dogbert
And maybe swlee could get this one:
https://13695.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Index/design/design/Dont-Blame-Me-521408
or this one:
https://13695.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Article/Index/article/1042617