Please Endure Just a Little While More

I know some of you might be having problems viewing this blog. I’m trying to clean up the code, so please, just endure the mess a bit longer. It’ll be presentable soon enough.

The biggest problem seems to be with… IE6. Go figure. Anyway, if anyone can shoot me a fix to my IE6 sidebar issue, I’d be most grateful. Any other constructive pieces of advice would be welcome, too.

Oh, and yes, those are Seoul’s recently designated Seoul Colors.

21 Comments

  1. swlee your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Robert, try to be careful with how many colors are on the page. With the colors of the sponsored links over which you have no control, the colors of the hyperlinks and titles, etc, and the colors you want for your theme, it’s easy to get a very messy design. I’ll leave nonconstructive criticism until you hang a banner saying’ mission accomplished”
    Good luck
    PS. Personally I find office building gray most representative of Seoul, while red is most representative tint of gangnam rent-seeking yangdali* lawyer with parasitic relationship with national wealth of post-colonial society.
    *(I’m lost for the English word for yangdali, two-faced is not right)

  2. cmm your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Robert, my hopefully constructive advice:

    Get rid of the google ads completely and put up a paypal link for donations. Make a quarterly appeal for donations and update how much money you’ve received vs. how much you need to cover your fees/drinking budget. Right now, when I load your main page, literally 40% of my screen is covered in your ads, left, right, and center.

    Or, considered selling ad space locally? (preferably to non-g@y love oriented businesses)

    Also, are the google ads not somewhat tunable… meaning, if you don’t want anything obscene popping up on your site, you can configure it to some degree, like a maximum rating that is allowed?

    Nice use of the Seoul colors…

  3. dda your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    The biggest problem seems to be with… IE6. Go figure.

    Not exactly an unheard of problem… :-)

  4. gbevers your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:59 am | Permalink

    I will not endure this screwed-up format and demand that it be corrected immediately. Obviously, the Marmot has no respect for our right to view unscrewed-up blog pages.

    I demand the Marmot fix the problem immediately and then make a public apology, and I do not mean some silly, insincere apology posted on his screwed-up blog. I mean an apology given either in person or, at least, on video.

    The Marmot has been making these format changes for years without first getting our permission, and it is time it stopped.

    If others are as outraged as I am, I suggest we meet in Seoul plaza to voice our views publicly. Do not forget to bring your Marmot masks and candles.

    “Marmots are rodents.”

  5. JK your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

    #4 makes me want to go “So long, so long” and not as in good-bye either.

  6. Bipolar Mindscrew your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:45 pm | Permalink

    I’m going to guess you’re having problems with your style sheets in IE6… namely, classes? I recently had to re-write my entire CSS file, thinking that for years IE6 was the standard my rainbow of colors was blue in in Firefox and Opera because they were to blame… turns out Microsoft finally got their act together in regards to compliance in IE7. IE6 is a bloody mess of a browser and I’d recommend you use a Javascript detector to simply block pre-IE7 users from viewing your page… Type in IE6 errors in google and you’ll see the variety of programs it has.

  7. cmm your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    note - my tone @2 was meant to be that of a cordial, humble recommendation, whether it read that way or not.

  8. R. Elgin your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 1:04 pm | Permalink

    Indeed. Consider giving IE6 users the finger and trying the paypal route. It is so embarrassing to pull up the site in some coffee shop and have these “date Korean women” ads come up; it’s like surfing a pron site in public.

    Regarding “drinking fees/budget”: I recommend transparency. Let people know up front that you are only drinking the good stuff because the cheap stuff cuts into your productivity. So long as you are not planning a canal filled with Socal reserve chardonnay, it’s cool.

  9. kljlkj your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 1:10 pm | Permalink

    Why don’t you just not change the site? You’re like somebody picking at a zit. Just leave it alone. There’s no reason for you to change it every few months. Nobody cares about design. They come for the info.

  10. Posted June 20, 2008 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Hey dude, check out browsershots . org to see how the site looks on different boxes / os’s / browsers. It’s pretty cool.

  11. reader your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    I say don’t bother supporting IE6. It’s not worth the trouble and everyone should really be using FF in any case.

  12. Posted June 20, 2008 at 2:32 pm | Permalink

    IE6 still comprises nearly 30% of Robert’s site visitors. Sucks or not, until IE6 dwindles below 5% designers will still have to spend inordinate amounts of time on CSS hacks to accommodate IE6’s abiding shittiness.

    Here’s the real story: Safari accounts for nearly 10% of Robert’s visitors.

  13. dogbert your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 2:41 pm | Permalink

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!

  14. Posted June 20, 2008 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    If the tip jar system were enacted, would we get votes in proportion to our donations? Would payers have the right to petition for the banning of certain parties? Is it possible that the Black Hats might scrape up enough money to kick out the White Hats? Even without banning people, could the sane among us purchase the right to STFU the non-Obama supporters, even if we aren’t American?

    Another thought, since I have some rough understanding of the economics of this site: If Robert were to heed Ms. Marmot’s wish to one day pull out of the blogging business, he could sell the site for, say, 5-10 times annual profit. Would the Hole as a revenue-generating investment be more attractive as a user-paid asset or as an advertiser-paid asset?

    Anyway, I’d chip in, but I don’t think I’d be making any internet millionaires.

  15. Chris your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    I view the Marmot using Firefox and Safari with AdBlock on. No ads anywhere.

  16. Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    half of my screen is horrible, and half of it is black. I really liked what I saw this afternoon…but this, my dear webmaster, is HORRIBLE.

    If you want to fiddle, there are plugins that allow you to do so without interrupting regular viewing pleasure.

  17. Posted June 20, 2008 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    Woah! It’s like looking at The Marmot’s Hole on Acid. Look at the colours. Look at the sidebar changing width and orientation!
    Freaky dude!
    Dude!
    Woah!

  18. Bad Monkey your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 10:58 pm | Permalink

    Robert, for the last four days or so every time I try to access Marmot’s Hole my Safari 1.3 browser has crashed. It started with the embedded Google map accompanying the Seoul Water Works pictures. And then yes, my backup browser, IE6, also started crashing. I would have left comments sooner but couldn’t because of the crashes. This time, on a slow dial-up connection, I was able to click on ‘comments’ before the main page had fully loaded.

    I have often wondered why you are constantly fiddling with the code for this site… personally, I liked it fine over a year ago, and have never felt that the incessant changes added much. Of course, it’s your site and its dealer’s choice… I regard Marmot’s Hole as a public service and am truly grateful for it. I just wish I could access it without crashing my system.

  19. gbevers your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:05 pm | Permalink

    For those who may not have realized it, I was only joking in Post #4. I will not be going to Seoul Plaza, so don’t bother showing up, JK.

    By the way, on my computer at home, the format looks all right, but on my computer at the office, it was all messed up. My office computer has IE6, and my home computer at home has IE7.

  20. JK your flag
    Posted June 20, 2008 at 11:31 pm | Permalink

    I know it was a joke, gbevers. Hence my reply to you.

  21. Posted June 21, 2008 at 7:05 am | Permalink

    why doesn’t everyone use firefox? I just don’t get it.

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