Comments on: The Darkside of Groupthink: Korea IT Times on The Internet-organized Mad-cow Mob http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:18:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ut videam http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163535 Ut videam Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:14:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163535 The Detroit Free Press, of all places, ran an <a href="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008806150612" rel="nofollow">interesting column on this topic</a> on Sunday. The Detroit Free Press, of all places, ran an interesting column on this topic on Sunday.

]]> By: R. Elgin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163435 R. Elgin Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:04:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163435 As per "Celadon"'s comment about direct democracy, there is a problem your claim and that is a direct democracy still works by a "rule of law" and employs methodology. Here is <a href="http://www.basiclaw.net/Principles/Direct%20democracy.htm" rel="nofollow">one link</a> regarding a true "direct democracy". What has happened is <b>not</b> an example of a "direct democracy". The "privatization" issue was injected much later by other organizations, such as the KCTU (Korean Confederation of Trade Unions). Most Koreans do not even know much about privatization and, again, there is much gossip and rumor-mongering at hand, regarding such (leaflets passed out at the protest, etc.). One should note that the opposition parties have decided *not* to participate in opening the assembly, basically negating any "rule of law" and maybe more like a child that has not gotten their way, throwing a tantrum -- but then, these are not children but willful adults who have chosen to neglect their responsibilities as lawmakers. Regardless of whether or not privatization is good for Korea or not, and regardless of whether it is a good idea to protest against the actions of one's government, there is more than a little dishonesty and hijacking of legitimate democrat process at work. As per “Celadon”’s comment about direct democracy, there is a problem your claim and that is a direct democracy still works by a “rule of law” and employs methodology. Here is one link regarding a true “direct democracy”. What has happened is not an example of a “direct democracy”.

The “privatization” issue was injected much later by other organizations, such as the KCTU (Korean Confederation of Trade Unions). Most Koreans do not even know much about privatization and, again, there is much gossip and rumor-mongering at hand, regarding such (leaflets passed out at the protest, etc.).

One should note that the opposition parties have decided *not* to participate in opening the assembly, basically negating any “rule of law” and maybe more like a child that has not gotten their way, throwing a tantrum — but then, these are not children but willful adults who have chosen to neglect their responsibilities as lawmakers.

Regardless of whether or not privatization is good for Korea or not, and regardless of whether it is a good idea to protest against the actions of one’s government, there is more than a little dishonesty and hijacking of legitimate democrat process at work.

]]> By: swlee http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163403 swlee Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:26:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163403 oh, thats ok then. I thought you were using a blog for your research. oh, thats ok then. I thought you were using a blog for your research.

]]> By: mateomiguel http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163400 mateomiguel Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:21:44 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163400 no, I didn't use the commenters, I used the excellent translations, summaries, and links by the blog contributors. The series is "How IT is transforming Korea", which is a topic much more broad than US beef import protests. The next part will be on another topic entirely, as previous parts have been. no, I didn’t use the commenters, I used the excellent translations, summaries, and links by the blog contributors.

The series is “How IT is transforming Korea”, which is a topic much more broad than US beef import protests. The next part will be on another topic entirely, as previous parts have been.

]]> By: Robert Koehler http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163395 Robert Koehler Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:10:12 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163395 Amazing how the Philippines --- which really WAS a US colony --- could kick out the occupiers. Man, that US grip on Korea must be brutal. Not even Roh Moo-hyun could make them leave! Amazing how the Philippines — which really WAS a US colony — could kick out the occupiers. Man, that US grip on Korea must be brutal. Not even Roh Moo-hyun could make them leave!

]]> By: swlee http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163390 swlee Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:00:34 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163390 I’d like to thank this blog for pointing out most of the information I used in the article Oh no, you shouldn't have said that. Research by blog commenters. Where to start. Sacrifice anonymity on the altar of praise from Marmots commenters? 7 in a 10 part series/ OMG, why dont you do 11 articles and really ensure concise coverage of the issue at hand. I’d like to thank this blog for pointing out most of the information I used in the article
Oh no, you shouldn’t have said that.
Research by blog commenters.
Where to start.
Sacrifice anonymity on the altar of praise from Marmots commenters?
7 in a 10 part series/ OMG, why dont you do 11 articles and really ensure concise coverage of the issue at hand.

]]> By: mateomiguel http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163385 mateomiguel Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:49:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163385 Oh, and the original headline that I wrote for the article was "Flash Mob Rule" which explains more why I was speaking about flash mobs and mobs in the article. Oh, and the original headline that I wrote for the article was “Flash Mob Rule” which explains more why I was speaking about flash mobs and mobs in the article.

]]> By: mateomiguel http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163382 mateomiguel Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:47:12 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163382 Guys, I'm really flattered by this. I tried not to mention it, but I've decided to. I wrote the article. Robert Koehler can confirm it by looking at the email associated with my post if you need confirmation. I'd like to thank this blog for pointing out most of the information I used in the article ;). If you have any critiques lay 'em on me! Guys, I’m really flattered by this. I tried not to mention it, but I’ve decided to. I wrote the article. Robert Koehler can confirm it by looking at the email associated with my post if you need confirmation.

I’d like to thank this blog for pointing out most of the information I used in the article ;) .

If you have any critiques lay ‘em on me!

]]> By: swlee http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163379 swlee Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:33:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163379 Funny thing about occupiers, they don't know when they're not wanted. They try to smile it off, but there is only so long they can fool themselves. They choose to term their presence it ways other than what it is. They take a paternal stance to the occupied. Robert knows this stuff, he learned it at a US university. The US-Korea dynamic is a text-book example. Jeez, the US could lose its foothold here to a bunch of school girls holding candles. Funny thing about occupiers, they don’t know when they’re not wanted. They try to smile it off, but there is only so long they can fool themselves. They choose to term their presence it ways other than what it is. They take a paternal stance to the occupied. Robert knows this stuff, he learned it at a US university. The US-Korea dynamic is a text-book example.
Jeez, the US could lose its foothold here to a bunch of school girls holding candles.

]]> By: Robert Koehler http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163374 Robert Koehler Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:22:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/the-darkside-of-groupthink-korea-it-times-on-the-internet-organized-mad-cow-mob/#comment-163374 They're also angry about the occupation. Being a post-colonial society, and all. They’re also angry about the occupation. Being a post-colonial society, and all.

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