That happens all the time.Johnson.
And perhaps we might learn one or two from Canadians about “Obedience to my superior”thing.

How naive you are. When Chinese and Korean provocations against Japan happen, do you really think Japan will not revert to self-defence and “obedience to my superior”?

The Japanese are the natural masters of Asia. Let the hee-haw Koreans and Chinese push them too far, and we will see what happens.

Now that is a hilarious comment.

Hah. Criticism is one thing, total distortion is another.

And Uncle Sam didn’t actually help Japan and Korea apart.Washington tried to
put the two in the same box all the time.Putting 27,000 U.S troops on the ground in Korea would put Japan automatically in any conflict Korea faces and speaking frankly,we don’t want that.We are not asking for the demolish of the US-SK alliances,but the redeploying the ground troops to somewhere else would match our interest.

And seriously,would nay of you actually think there will be a war in East Asia after America’s departure?

Korean acts tough to Japanese since they know they will never get wacked back in the face.Because we won’t.Same can be said about the U.S.

But they take different attitude to Chinese and will do so more,if the U.S no longer watch their back.Even if that won’t work out,Tokyo will never side on one side in potential Sino-Korean disputes and China has plenty of leverage to Korea and can settle any disputes without it escalates into an armed conflict.So there will be no Sino-Korean or Sino-Japanese conflict over Korean peninsula.

China’s rise is a different matter.But It takes Russia and India along with the U.S to balance with Beijing and it is not smart idea to deal with them in a place like Korean peninsula.

I don’t like Cummings since he blames Japan for any tentions with Korea,yet always ignores Korea’s blatant nationalism and irresponsible media coverage of which he is part of sometimes.
The whole idea like making alliance with North Korea in a manners like “if not a friend or an ally against China, against a revived Russia, and as a check on Japan’s future course”is typical and drive everyone more suspicious and may bring unintentional response and only add more fuels to the fire.

It’s hypothetical, but I say once the East Asians are left alone without Daddy Sam, it’ll be a bloodbath within a decade. Anyhow we may never know, because corporate America has a vested interest in having the US military play regional security guard to it’s investments in Asia.

Oh, there’d be some short term pain and a half-decade of recession whilst America figured out where to buy cheap crap elsewhere (Chinese toys, Korean cars) or build it back in America again. But in the medium to long run, the 3 main Asian competitors would have cleared themselves out of the global running, and that’s gotta be an extension of another century of American economic supremacy. Not to mention the oil and other resources that the smoldering ruins of Japan, China and Korea would not be consuming anymore.

That’s the point.
And I don’t see any major LDP politicians using anti-Americanism as driving force for the popular support,nor mass rally in Tokyo for at least 35 years.

“But that is not to say there aren’t plenty of resentment of american troops in okinawa.”
#43
Yeah,but Okinawans aren’t exactly anti-America.At least you won’t get punched by walking just in the street.Besides,the marines are leaving for Guam anyway.
And with now Taiwan had just announced yesturday that they may go for a war in the Senkakus,people just chnage their minds with the remaining presence.
Okinawa is more of an exception than the norm of Japanese.

“I think the US should pull out of east asia. Let us fight a few times in a few massive wars and maybe we’ll learn the lessons learned by europe.”

I don’t know about in Korea,but lessons already learned in Japan.
Basically you are saying is “If the U.S is pulling out from Korea,they must have pulled out from Japan too!”and “Since Korea is the hub of East Asia,there will be blood if the U.S chooses to withdrawn from this land of gold”.

#47
“It’s just bullshit. In general, South Korea has done well with the US military presence and it still wants it.”

South Korea has done better with the U.S military than Japan when Rhee and Park was in power.
But at least Tokyo paid more host nation support to the pentagon and allowed more flexible mobilization of USFJ to other theaters.In another words,anything you want with USFK can be done with USFJ and more.I think.

And these are not even the main point of my argument.The argument is “would Amrican presence in Korea would work to check and balance Japan?”
And my answer is that is an over investment since the U.S can have influence via USFJ and Sino-American entente to curve the course of Japanese security strategy.

US-Korea Alliance has to find some other logic to thrive itself for the next decade.I think.