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	<title>Comments on: AIDS Tests on Visa Applications</title>
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	<description>Korea... in Blog Format</description>
	<pubDate>Fri,  9 Jan 2009 04:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Boyd R. Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162922</link>
		<dc:creator>Boyd R. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like typical Confucian xenophobia.  Like China instituting border temperature checks for foreign passport holders after the SARS crisis.  Why?  Because SARS is a foreign disease ... oh... wait, it was invented in Guangdong wet markets.  D'oh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like typical Confucian xenophobia.  Like China instituting border temperature checks for foreign passport holders after the SARS crisis.  Why?  Because SARS is a foreign disease &#8230; oh&#8230; wait, it was invented in Guangdong wet markets.  D&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>By: Bipolar Mindscrew</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162904</link>
		<dc:creator>Bipolar Mindscrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A small note on the universality of blood tests.  I work at a high school in Gyeonggi for the Ministry of Education.  GEPIK Slave.  Argh.  Anyway, shortly after completing the Ministry of Immigration test (with an emphasis on TB and HIV minus the cannabis test), word came down on the annual physical checkup of all teachers for the MOE... and my co-teacher joked that I had basically done all that and I should've just requested a second copy of the results.  Anyway since everyone else is doing it, I guess I'll do it again...  I'm not sure what all it entails, but it's an interesting note that perhaps public school teachers get more rigorous safety checks than hogwans and other private institutes... maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small note on the universality of blood tests.  I work at a high school in Gyeonggi for the Ministry of Education.  GEPIK Slave.  Argh.  Anyway, shortly after completing the Ministry of Immigration test (with an emphasis on TB and HIV minus the cannabis test), word came down on the annual physical checkup of all teachers for the MOE&#8230; and my co-teacher joked that I had basically done all that and I should&#8217;ve just requested a second copy of the results.  Anyway since everyone else is doing it, I guess I&#8217;ll do it again&#8230;  I&#8217;m not sure what all it entails, but it&#8217;s an interesting note that perhaps public school teachers get more rigorous safety checks than hogwans and other private institutes&#8230; maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162433</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this law.  

Hogwon Engrish teachers, and entertainers.  Hogwoners and entertainers.  

Ha ha...think about it.  It makes ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD MATEYS!

"teacher!  game day today?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this law.  </p>
<p>Hogwon Engrish teachers, and entertainers.  Hogwoners and entertainers.  </p>
<p>Ha ha&#8230;think about it.  It makes ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD MATEYS!</p>
<p>&#8220;teacher!  game day today?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wtf?</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162428</link>
		<dc:creator>wtf?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28

Exactly right. Test everyone for AIDS with any contact to the school/institute. And don't forget a criminal check as well. 
If you are going to test the foreigner teacher in the classroom, 
then test the Koreans teacher in classroom. And you can't stop there.
The bongo bus drivers, the cleaning ajumman and the door ajoshi, 
the part-time girl working the phones. 

If as the government alleges the measures are to protect the children
then you figure out who has the potential to hurt the children. The 
answer is everyone in contact with them. (this is what they do in US schools -we don't just test Mexican janitors). Further, it is more likely 
than an abuser is Korean. The overwhelming majority of abuse of 
Korean kids is by Koreans. 

So #28 

We are not "thinking too much about the ‘implications’ and ‘what they really think of us'" - it is a clear message that the foreigner is a threat while Koreans aren't. There is no "self-victimisation" here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28</p>
<p>Exactly right. Test everyone for AIDS with any contact to the school/institute. And don&#8217;t forget a criminal check as well.<br />
If you are going to test the foreigner teacher in the classroom,<br />
then test the Koreans teacher in classroom. And you can&#8217;t stop there.<br />
The bongo bus drivers, the cleaning ajumman and the door ajoshi,<br />
the part-time girl working the phones. </p>
<p>If as the government alleges the measures are to protect the children<br />
then you figure out who has the potential to hurt the children. The<br />
answer is everyone in contact with them. (this is what they do in US schools -we don&#8217;t just test Mexican janitors). Further, it is more likely<br />
than an abuser is Korean. The overwhelming majority of abuse of<br />
Korean kids is by Koreans. </p>
<p>So #28 </p>
<p>We are not &#8220;thinking too much about the ‘implications’ and ‘what they really think of us&#8217;&#8221; - it is a clear message that the foreigner is a threat while Koreans aren&#8217;t. There is no &#8220;self-victimisation&#8221; here.</p>
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		<title>By: tormsen</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162405</link>
		<dc:creator>tormsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They're unnecessary but a good idea. They should be applied universally. Thinking too much about the 'implications' and 'what they really think of us' is an exercise in self-victimisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re unnecessary but a good idea. They should be applied universally. Thinking too much about the &#8216;implications&#8217; and &#8216;what they really think of us&#8217; is an exercise in self-victimisation.</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test ALL teachers/child-workers for communicable diseases and illigal drugs if you test one. 

Nobody can thus complain.

Why stop there, have them ALL psychologically evaluate and polygraphed if you have the resourses and time.

Can't be too carefull when it come to protecting children.

I submit.

But do it to EVERYONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test ALL teachers/child-workers for communicable diseases and illigal drugs if you test one. </p>
<p>Nobody can thus complain.</p>
<p>Why stop there, have them ALL psychologically evaluate and polygraphed if you have the resourses and time.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t be too carefull when it come to protecting children.</p>
<p>I submit.</p>
<p>But do it to EVERYONE.</p>
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		<title>By: shakuhachi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162157</link>
		<dc:creator>shakuhachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Implement the test. It is simple enough and I wish my country would implement it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Implement the test. It is simple enough and I wish my country would implement it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/13/aids-tests-on-visa-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-162062</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a sound idea, Korean women being so loose and Korea having so little to interest foreign residents other than the huge and ubiquitous sex-for-pay industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sound idea, Korean women being so loose and Korea having so little to interest foreign residents other than the huge and ubiquitous sex-for-pay industry.</p>
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		<title>By: wtf?</title>
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		<dc:creator>wtf?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22

Take a peek Chuck Sirloin's comment (#214) on the "US Netizens Are Saying Mean Things About Us: Yonhap" thread. It seems like everything comes back to that...

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/us-netizens-are-saying-mean-things-about-us-yonhap/#comment-162036</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22</p>
<p>Take a peek Chuck Sirloin&#8217;s comment (#214) on the &#8220;US Netizens Are Saying Mean Things About Us: Yonhap&#8221; thread. It seems like everything comes back to that&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/us-netizens-are-saying-mean-things-about-us-yonhap/#comment-162036" rel="nofollow">http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/.....ent-162036</a></p>
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		<title>By: wtf?</title>
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		<dc:creator>wtf?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Mark Karr (people forget about him) though, he had the record. The new measures would have kept him out. Not that he was accused of anything here or found guilty of JonBenét's murder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mark Karr (people forget about him) though, he had the record. The new measures would have kept him out. Not that he was accused of anything here or found guilty of JonBenét&#8217;s murder.</p>
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