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		<title>By: swlee</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/protests-about-nationalism-rather-than-beef/#comment-161745</link>
		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually hitest, the inspiration for  that "quote" was from elsewhere in the movie when they are talking in the colloseum about the people's front of judea, and all that jizz. 
Next time can you please try to be a little more creative than a cut 'n paste?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually hitest, the inspiration for  that &#8220;quote&#8221; was from elsewhere in the movie when they are talking in the colloseum about the people&#8217;s front of judea, and all that jizz.<br />
Next time can you please try to be a little more creative than a cut &#8216;n paste?</p>
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		<title>By: So, Beef Protests Not Anti-American? : Korea Beat</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/protests-about-nationalism-rather-than-beef/#comment-161538</link>
		<dc:creator>So, Beef Protests Not Anti-American? : Korea Beat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to incorporate this anniversary into their protests. I personally think that this should put to bed the idea that anti-Americanism is not an animating force for protestors whose real target is Lee Myung-bak &#8212; I mean, if that were so, why did people until beef was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to incorporate this anniversary into their protests. I personally think that this should put to bed the idea that anti-Americanism is not an animating force for protestors whose real target is Lee Myung-bak &#8212; I mean, if that were so, why did people until beef was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dogbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PERFECT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PERFECT!</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/protests-about-nationalism-rather-than-beef/#comment-161303</link>
		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Less related, but still funny, is the , "What have the Romans done for us anyway?" scene ( I'll have to paste it...couldn't find it seperated from the rest of the movie's script. )

Reg: They've bled us white, the bastards. They've taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers' fathers. 

Loretta: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers. 

Reg: Yeah. 

Loretta: And from our fathers' fathers' fathers' fathers. 

Reg: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don't labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?! 

Xerxes: The aqueduct? 

Reg: What? 

Xerxes: The aqueduct. 

Reg: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that's true. Yeah. 

Commando 3: And sanitation. 

Loretta: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like. 

Reg: Yeah. All right. I'll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done. 

Matthias: And the roads! 

Reg: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don't they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads-- 

Commando: Irrigation. 

Xerxes: Medicine. 

Commandos: Huh? Heh? Huh... 

Commando 2: Education. 

Commandos: Ohh... 

Reg: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough. 

Commando 1: And the wine. 

Commandos: Oh, yes. Yeah... 

Francis: Yeah. Yeah, that's something we'd really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh. 

Commando: Public baths. 

Loretta: And it's safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg. 

Francis: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let's face it. They're the only ones who could in a place like this! 

Commandos: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh. 

Reg: But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? 

Xerxes: Brought peace? 

Reg: Oh, pea-- Shut up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less related, but still funny, is the , &#8220;What have the Romans done for us anyway?&#8221; scene ( I&#8217;ll have to paste it&#8230;couldn&#8217;t find it seperated from the rest of the movie&#8217;s script. )</p>
<p>Reg: They&#8217;ve bled us white, the bastards. They&#8217;ve taken everything we had, and not just from us, from our fathers, and from our fathers&#8217; fathers. </p>
<p>Loretta: And from our fathers&#8217; fathers&#8217; fathers. </p>
<p>Reg: Yeah. </p>
<p>Loretta: And from our fathers&#8217; fathers&#8217; fathers&#8217; fathers. </p>
<p>Reg: Yeah. All right, Stan. Don&#8217;t labour the point. And what have they ever given us in return?! </p>
<p>Xerxes: The aqueduct? </p>
<p>Reg: What? </p>
<p>Xerxes: The aqueduct. </p>
<p>Reg: Oh. Yeah, yeah. They did give us that. Uh, that&#8217;s true. Yeah. </p>
<p>Commando 3: And sanitation. </p>
<p>Loretta: Oh, yeah, the sanitation, Reg. Remember what the city used to be like. </p>
<p>Reg: Yeah. All right. I&#8217;ll grant you the aqueduct and the sanitation are two things that the Romans have done. </p>
<p>Matthias: And the roads! </p>
<p>Reg: Well, yeah. Obviously the roads. I mean, the roads go without saying, don&#8217;t they? But apart from the sanitation, the aqueduct, and the roads&#8211; </p>
<p>Commando: Irrigation. </p>
<p>Xerxes: Medicine. </p>
<p>Commandos: Huh? Heh? Huh&#8230; </p>
<p>Commando 2: Education. </p>
<p>Commandos: Ohh&#8230; </p>
<p>Reg: Yeah, yeah. All right. Fair enough. </p>
<p>Commando 1: And the wine. </p>
<p>Commandos: Oh, yes. Yeah&#8230; </p>
<p>Francis: Yeah. Yeah, that&#8217;s something we&#8217;d really miss, Reg, if the Romans left. Huh. </p>
<p>Commando: Public baths. </p>
<p>Loretta: And it&#8217;s safe to walk in the streets at night now, Reg. </p>
<p>Francis: Yeah, they certainly know how to keep order. Let&#8217;s face it. They&#8217;re the only ones who could in a place like this! </p>
<p>Commandos: Hehh, heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh. </p>
<p>Reg: But apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? </p>
<p>Xerxes: Brought peace? </p>
<p>Reg: Oh, pea&#8211; Shut up!</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 your quote ( and this whole US beef arguement for that matter) reminds me of scene 7 in the Monty Python movie, "The Life of Brian"

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm

Sorry I don't know how to provide a direct link ( I am a bit of a techtard).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 your quote ( and this whole US beef arguement for that matter) reminds me of scene 7 in the Monty Python movie, &#8220;The Life of Brian&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm</a></p>
<p>Sorry I don&#8217;t know how to provide a direct link ( I am a bit of a techtard).</p>
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		<title>By: American Seoul</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/protests-about-nationalism-rather-than-beef/#comment-161264</link>
		<dc:creator>American Seoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16 I doubt there are ten that love the USA for everyone that hates it.  It really does not matter if the people love or hate the USA, Koreans have to do what is in the best interest for Korea. Shooting themselves in the foot with xenophobic nationalism is not the answer to their economic and political woes.  
In 16 scenario,if Korea became a vassal state, at least the visa free policy will allow America a great deal of new immigrants.  Perhaps we can bring more of these people to the USA.  
Isnt the USA immigration policy, the more the merrier, or am I confusing that with something else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16 I doubt there are ten that love the USA for everyone that hates it.  It really does not matter if the people love or hate the USA, Koreans have to do what is in the best interest for Korea. Shooting themselves in the foot with xenophobic nationalism is not the answer to their economic and political woes.<br />
In 16 scenario,if Korea became a vassal state, at least the visa free policy will allow America a great deal of new immigrants.  Perhaps we can bring more of these people to the USA.<br />
Isnt the USA immigration policy, the more the merrier, or am I confusing that with something else.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Flank: I See Crazies, Too!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Flank: I See Crazies, Too!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is top of the refuse pile for the &#34;I see crazy Koreans!&#34; crowd (which also includes TMH's Robert Koehler's sarcastic retort, that &#34;If you're bewildered, don't worry &#8212; nationalism, anti-Americanism, democracy, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is top of the refuse pile for the &quot;I see crazy Koreans!&quot; crowd (which also includes TMH&#8217;s Robert Koehler&#8217;s sarcastic retort, that &quot;If you&#8217;re bewildered, don&#8217;t worry &#8212; nationalism, anti-Americanism, democracy, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: baduk</title>
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		<dc:creator>baduk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just ignore these ignorant Commies.

There are 10 real Koreans who love America for every anti-American demonstrator.

Korea is a free country.  And, these asshos have right to run out to street and sing Anti-American songs.

However, these are losers, the poor and the powerless, almost insane.

Just listen to that stupid woman singing songs about Goguryo.  Heck, when the US Forces leave Korea, Korea will become the vassal state to China.  Then, Koreans will really know what it is to be slaves to an ignorant and brutish country.

The Chinese will kick Koreans out of Korea, sending them to labor camps near Tibet.

Anti-Americanism?  These stupid Koreans are biting the only hand that feeds them.  They have to suffer for the consequence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just ignore these ignorant Commies.</p>
<p>There are 10 real Koreans who love America for every anti-American demonstrator.</p>
<p>Korea is a free country.  And, these asshos have right to run out to street and sing Anti-American songs.</p>
<p>However, these are losers, the poor and the powerless, almost insane.</p>
<p>Just listen to that stupid woman singing songs about Goguryo.  Heck, when the US Forces leave Korea, Korea will become the vassal state to China.  Then, Koreans will really know what it is to be slaves to an ignorant and brutish country.</p>
<p>The Chinese will kick Koreans out of Korea, sending them to labor camps near Tibet.</p>
<p>Anti-Americanism?  These stupid Koreans are biting the only hand that feeds them.  They have to suffer for the consequence.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#13

"
It seems the mad cow issue is starting to attract real serious international attention.
"

let it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#13</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
It seems the mad cow issue is starting to attract real serious international attention.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>let it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/12/protests-about-nationalism-rather-than-beef/#comment-160995</link>
		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Economist has an in depth feature discussing the mad cow issue in Korea and the organizational structure of the opponents and proponents of the trade.

Quote: 
"Dr David Park, a professor at Seoul's Chungang University, said the People’s Association for Measures Against Mad Cow Disease (PAMACD) has been infiltrated by members of the more radical United Front Against Imperialist Meat Products (UFAIMP). "Many UFAIMP cadre are vehement opponents of all sorts of trade in imperialist product, not just meat, but also vegetables and even some fruit," said Dr Park, "and many of them have been associated with the outlawed and believed defunct Daegu Proponents of Food Sovereignty (DPFS)". Daegu is a provincial South Korean city famous for its fruit production.
It seems the mad cow issue is starting to attract real serious international attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Economist has an in depth feature discussing the mad cow issue in Korea and the organizational structure of the opponents and proponents of the trade.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;Dr David Park, a professor at Seoul&#8217;s Chungang University, said the People’s Association for Measures Against Mad Cow Disease (PAMACD) has been infiltrated by members of the more radical United Front Against Imperialist Meat Products (UFAIMP). &#8220;Many UFAIMP cadre are vehement opponents of all sorts of trade in imperialist product, not just meat, but also vegetables and even some fruit,&#8221; said Dr Park, &#8220;and many of them have been associated with the outlawed and believed defunct Daegu Proponents of Food Sovereignty (DPFS)&#8221;. Daegu is a provincial South Korean city famous for its fruit production.<br />
It seems the mad cow issue is starting to attract real serious international attention.</p>
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