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	<title>Comments on: Apparently, Beef from Cows Over 20 Months Old is Illegal in the United States</title>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@34/35 - Maybe prions and related brain-wasting matter are contracted directly from TV and newspapers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@34/35 - Maybe prions and related brain-wasting matter are contracted directly from TV and newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not erroneous. Parts that are believed to carry BSE causing prions are not excluded from the accord.

...

Just saw that the accord excludes organs that are believed to carry prions. I guess I should have known better than to trust a certain group of reporters’ fact checking skills.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not only that, you have claimed twice on this thread and another that bones and organs are not sold in the US:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Forget the morons, the nationalists, and the conspiracy theorists, fact is that Korea has agreed to accept entrails and bones, which cannot be sold in the US because that is where prions are believed to be concentrated. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is udder bullshit (pun intended).  One can buy bones, tripe, and tongue in any major US supermarket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not erroneous. Parts that are believed to carry BSE causing prions are not excluded from the accord.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Just saw that the accord excludes organs that are believed to carry prions. I guess I should have known better than to trust a certain group of reporters’ fact checking skills.</p>
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<p>Not only that, you have claimed twice on this thread and another that bones and organs are not sold in the US:</p>
<blockquote><p>Forget the morons, the nationalists, and the conspiracy theorists, fact is that Korea has agreed to accept entrails and bones, which cannot be sold in the US because that is where prions are believed to be concentrated. </p></blockquote>
<p>That is udder bullshit (pun intended).  One can buy bones, tripe, and tongue in any major US supermarket.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#33,

Just saw that the accord excludes  organs that are believed to carry prions.  I guess I should have known better than to trust a certain group of reporters' fact checking skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#33,</p>
<p>Just saw that the accord excludes  organs that are believed to carry prions.  I guess I should have known better than to trust a certain group of reporters&#8217; fact checking skills.</p>
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		<title>By: adhaglin</title>
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		<dc:creator>adhaglin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someguyinkorea-

you're right, certain SRM (i believe limited to certain bones and the intestines) from cows UNDER 30 months are included in the deal. of course, these parts are also sold openly in the u.s., and consumed daily by americans. they follow in perfect accordance with international health standards. i'll repeat, again, in case you missed it the first time. the beef that koreans would get (under the original deal) is THE EXACT SAME beef that americans eat everyday. SRM from 30+ month old cows is not sold in the states, and in accordance with the previously agreed upon deal, would not be imported to korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someguyinkorea-</p>
<p>you&#8217;re right, certain SRM (i believe limited to certain bones and the intestines) from cows UNDER 30 months are included in the deal. of course, these parts are also sold openly in the u.s., and consumed daily by americans. they follow in perfect accordance with international health standards. i&#8217;ll repeat, again, in case you missed it the first time. the beef that koreans would get (under the original deal) is THE EXACT SAME beef that americans eat everyday. SRM from 30+ month old cows is not sold in the states, and in accordance with the previously agreed upon deal, would not be imported to korea.</p>
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		<title>By: The Goat</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@22

"Parts" is nowhere near good enough to back up your claim.  Would they happen to be any of the following?  
"vertebrae of the tail the spinous and transverse processes of the cervical, thoracic and lumbar vertebrae, the median sacral crest and the wings of the sacrum..."

This clip reminds me of the Tonight Show or Late Night when they went out to the streets and asked (seemingly) random people simple questions.  Hilarity (and disbelief) ensued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@22</p>
<p>&#8220;Parts&#8221; is nowhere near good enough to back up your claim.  Would they happen to be any of the following?<br />
&#8220;vertebrae of the tail the spinous and transverse processes of the cervical, thoracic and lumbar vertebrae, the median sacral crest and the wings of the sacrum&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>This clip reminds me of the Tonight Show or Late Night when they went out to the streets and asked (seemingly) random people simple questions.  Hilarity (and disbelief) ensued.</p>
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		<title>By: gbevers</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbevers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The above link is not working. Here it is again. &lt;a href="http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shellview2.htm?articleid=2008061209215622509&#38;linkid=612&#38;newssetid=3433&#38;title=%B1%A4%BF%EC%BA%B4+%BC%E8%B0%ED%B1%E2+%BC%F6%C0%D4%3F+%B3%ED%B6%F5" rel="nofollow"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The above link is not working. Here it is again. <a href="http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shellview2.htm?articleid=2008061209215622509&amp;linkid=612&amp;newssetid=3433&amp;title=%B1%A4%BF%EC%BA%B4+%BC%E8%B0%ED%B1%E2+%BC%F6%C0%D4%3F+%B3%ED%B6%F5" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></p>
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		<title>By: gbevers</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbevers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Do you agree or disagree with the woman? I am asking because I wonder how many Koreans might read the title of your post and assume you agree with her.

By the way, the following comment is among the comments posted under an article about comments made by US Aggriculture Secretary Ed Schafer on the safety of US beef and on how the Korean protests are politically motivated.

Someone with the ID of "ji9052875" wrote:

긴급속보!!!!!!!!!소고기배후 조지부시미대통령!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!광우병실험하고자 한국에광우병소 투입!!!!!!!!!!한국인을 실험대상으로했다고 긴급보도함----워싱턴포스트____&#124;

Transalation: &lt;i&gt;News Flash! US President George Bush, the man behind the beef, is sending cows infected with "mad cow" disease to Korea to experiment with the disease. The news flash said that Koreans have been used as subjects of an experiment. "Washington Post"&lt;/i&gt;

I have not checked to see if that was actually reported in the Washington Post. Does anyone else know?

Here is the link to the Korean article:

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shellview2.htm?articleid=2008061209215622509&#38;linkid=612&#38;newssetid=3433&#38;title=%B1%A4%BF%EC%BA%B4+%BC%E8%B0%ED%B1%E2+%BC%F6%C0%D4%3F+%B3%ED%B6%F5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Do you agree or disagree with the woman? I am asking because I wonder how many Koreans might read the title of your post and assume you agree with her.</p>
<p>By the way, the following comment is among the comments posted under an article about comments made by US Aggriculture Secretary Ed Schafer on the safety of US beef and on how the Korean protests are politically motivated.</p>
<p>Someone with the ID of &#8220;ji9052875&#8243; wrote:</p>
<p>긴급속보!!!!!!!!!소고기배후 조지부시미대통령!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!광우병실험하고자 한국에광우병소 투입!!!!!!!!!!한국인을 실험대상으로했다고 긴급보도함&#8212;-워싱턴포스트____|</p>
<p>Transalation: <i>News Flash! US President George Bush, the man behind the beef, is sending cows infected with &#8220;mad cow&#8221; disease to Korea to experiment with the disease. The news flash said that Koreans have been used as subjects of an experiment. &#8220;Washington Post&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I have not checked to see if that was actually reported in the Washington Post. Does anyone else know?</p>
<p>Here is the link to the Korean article:</p>
<p><a href="http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shellview2.htm?articleid=2008061209215622509&amp;linkid=612&amp;newssetid=3433&amp;title=%B1%A4%BF%EC%BA%B4+%BC%E8%B0%ED%B1%E2+%BC%F6%C0%D4%3F+%B3%ED%B6%F5" rel="nofollow">http://kr.news.yahoo.com/servi.....3%ED%B6%F5</a></p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gathered you would need a hand (ow) if the beef is over 30 months. I wouldn't touch such beef with a barge pole. 
yes, it is that big.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gathered you would need a hand (ow) if the beef is over 30 months. I wouldn&#8217;t touch such beef with a barge pole.<br />
yes, it is that big.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swlee: are you trying to give me a woody with all that "postcolonial" talk again:

http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/09/professor-defends-his-woman-in-seoul-restaurant-lives-to-write-story-in-nyt-magazine/#comment-160605</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swlee: are you trying to give me a woody with all that &#8220;postcolonial&#8221; talk again:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/09/professor-defends-his-woman-in-seoul-restaurant-lives-to-write-story-in-nyt-magazine/#comment-160605" rel="nofollow">http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/.....ent-160605</a></p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the age of the beef is the issue here. Clearly you are both trying to distance yourselves from the fact that such relations with US beef (which militarily occupies South Korea , and is responsible for dividing the peninsula in 1945)is an act of Korea exercising its post-colonial sovereignty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the age of the beef is the issue here. Clearly you are both trying to distance yourselves from the fact that such relations with US beef (which militarily occupies South Korea , and is responsible for dividing the peninsula in 1945)is an act of Korea exercising its post-colonial sovereignty.</p>
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