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	<title>Comments on: Group Alleges McDonald&#8217;s Uses Beef from 30 Month or Older Cows Later Retracts Allegation</title>
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		<title>By: SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 12: You Can Kiss My Kimchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 12: You Can Kiss My Kimchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gbnhj</title>
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		<dc:creator>gbnhj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with figbash. okocha wrote that he approached his topic from a purely economic standpoint; while I would learn something of the science surrounding this topic (as it impacts trade), he claims to have been more theoretical. Frankly, I believe him - why not? He's obviously fishing for some assistance, but he's hardly doing anything unethical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with figbash. okocha wrote that he approached his topic from a purely economic standpoint; while I would learn something of the science surrounding this topic (as it impacts trade), he claims to have been more theoretical. Frankly, I believe him - why not? He&#8217;s obviously fishing for some assistance, but he&#8217;s hardly doing anything unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: figbash</title>
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		<dc:creator>figbash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez, Sonagi, give the guy a break!  As a former graduate student myself, nobody ever jumped down my throat like that for asking people to point out sources I might have missed, or to help find something reliable!  Sure it would be great if they did all their own research themselves, but part of being a community of scholars is being willing to help out and point out reliable sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, Sonagi, give the guy a break!  As a former graduate student myself, nobody ever jumped down my throat like that for asking people to point out sources I might have missed, or to help find something reliable!  Sure it would be great if they did all their own research themselves, but part of being a community of scholars is being willing to help out and point out reliable sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US beef is much safer than Korean beef and I'm not even going to put "I think or I believe." 

Clearly, Korea is even below the OIE standards and have no beter safety measures than the US. Yet, Koreans freely overgeneralize US beef as 미친소 or 쓰레기. Americans have every right to be mad about this. 



Spreading numerous false rumors is one thing; many Koreans also do verbal abuse to anyone who think US beef is safe. They NEVER respect what others think. Sounds like a peaceful, democratic protest??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US beef is much safer than Korean beef and I&#8217;m not even going to put &#8220;I think or I believe.&#8221; </p>
<p>Clearly, Korea is even below the OIE standards and have no beter safety measures than the US. Yet, Koreans freely overgeneralize US beef as 미친소 or 쓰레기. Americans have every right to be mad about this. </p>
<p>Spreading numerous false rumors is one thing; many Koreans also do verbal abuse to anyone who think US beef is safe. They NEVER respect what others think. Sounds like a peaceful, democratic protest??</p>
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		<title>By: mins0306</title>
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		<dc:creator>mins0306</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A lot of people are getting sick of the candle light protests.

http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00433.html&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Chosun, Joongang, and the Dong-A have taken the position of opposing the candlelight vigils so it's not surprising that they have put that up.  And for all we know that 7,000 members are probably right wingers or hard-core LMB fans who don't like the fact that people are protesting against LMB and his policies.  And not people who feel that US beef is being unfairly dissed.  Heck there is a sign at the entrance of the Chosun Il-bo's employee cafeteria that says "We serve only Aussie beef" and I doubt that most if not all of the 7,000 or so people who oppose the protest will eat US beef if it was put in front of them.  That is assuming that they were informed that it is US beef.

If one wants to get a complete picture of Korea, then one shouldn't read/view a single media outlet and make a conclusion on the spot.  One should also see what's on the other side before making a conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A lot of people are getting sick of the candle light protests.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00433.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.chosun.com/site/da&#8230;..00433.html</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The Chosun, Joongang, and the Dong-A have taken the position of opposing the candlelight vigils so it&#8217;s not surprising that they have put that up.  And for all we know that 7,000 members are probably right wingers or hard-core LMB fans who don&#8217;t like the fact that people are protesting against LMB and his policies.  And not people who feel that US beef is being unfairly dissed.  Heck there is a sign at the entrance of the Chosun Il-bo&#8217;s employee cafeteria that says &#8220;We serve only Aussie beef&#8221; and I doubt that most if not all of the 7,000 or so people who oppose the protest will eat US beef if it was put in front of them.  That is assuming that they were informed that it is US beef.</p>
<p>If one wants to get a complete picture of Korea, then one shouldn&#8217;t read/view a single media outlet and make a conclusion on the spot.  One should also see what&#8217;s on the other side before making a conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: iheartblueballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>iheartblueballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Trying...to...exercise...restraint...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources.</p></blockquote>
<p>Trying&#8230;to&#8230;exercise&#8230;restraint&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dogbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ococha - Okocha</description>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ococha:

You may not be a US citizen, but your English is native-like, most likely acquired overseas or at an international school like Seoul Foreign School.  Don't give me this BS about Koreans studying grammar for years and using a dictionary.  A Korean starting early and spending years receiving a quality English education will have excellent English but still retain small errors that give away non-native proficiency.

I'm not going to do your job for you by looking for sources, but if I were arguing in favor of importing US beef, the thrust of my argument would be that US beef is no less safe than Korean beef, for both use similar practices, feeding grain-based cocktails and doses of antibiotics to stave off the illnesses that result from confining cows in barns and feeding them an unnatural diet.  

US beef is no less safe than Korean beef, but it is substantially cheaper. 

 Healthy beef should be grass-fed, but Korea is a mountainous country with little land for pasturing animals.  That is why beef used to be a luxury food for the rich.  Pigs and chickens are more efficient at converting grain to meat, and hence, are a better choice for Koreans who believe in sustainable farming.  Koreans and the Korean government should not protect and grow the Korean beef industry as it is not and cannot be a sustainable agricultural product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ococha:</p>
<p>You may not be a US citizen, but your English is native-like, most likely acquired overseas or at an international school like Seoul Foreign School.  Don&#8217;t give me this BS about Koreans studying grammar for years and using a dictionary.  A Korean starting early and spending years receiving a quality English education will have excellent English but still retain small errors that give away non-native proficiency.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to do your job for you by looking for sources, but if I were arguing in favor of importing US beef, the thrust of my argument would be that US beef is no less safe than Korean beef, for both use similar practices, feeding grain-based cocktails and doses of antibiotics to stave off the illnesses that result from confining cows in barns and feeding them an unnatural diet.  </p>
<p>US beef is no less safe than Korean beef, but it is substantially cheaper. </p>
<p> Healthy beef should be grass-fed, but Korea is a mountainous country with little land for pasturing animals.  That is why beef used to be a luxury food for the rich.  Pigs and chickens are more efficient at converting grain to meat, and hence, are a better choice for Koreans who believe in sustainable farming.  Koreans and the Korean government should not protect and grow the Korean beef industry as it is not and cannot be a sustainable agricultural product.</p>
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		<title>By: okocha</title>
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		<dc:creator>okocha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you everyone. This has been of great help. 

as for Sonagi, i apologize but we were merely asking for help, we were not being insistent on anything. 
As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources. And since there are many people here who are natives, we thought it would be a good place to ask for help. We are very grateful but if we sounded lazy, by all means we are trying very hard, its just that we were not confident enough to make our own decisions because we lack the ability to make our own decisions in terms of source credibility. 

As for your question, unfortunately i cannot be of much assistance because that is not the focus of our research. As a matter of fact, U.S beef saftey is not even the focus of our paper. Our focus is purely business and we neglected the health issue entirely. This was our fault but since we could be attacked on these health issues, we were merely preparing in case we had to defend ourselves. Because our conclusion is highly pro import of american beef, we could get attacked considering the highly politicized nature of this issue. It is a very ridiculous situation as many have commented but social issues become very extreme in this country. it is very unfortunate. If you are suggesting we should counter argue indicating the unsafe nature of Korean beef, maybe that could be a good idea. We will consider that. 

ps. we are not really graded on this.. but we are trying to use this as a basis for a larger project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you everyone. This has been of great help. </p>
<p>as for Sonagi, i apologize but we were merely asking for help, we were not being insistent on anything.<br />
As koreans, we have difficulty discerning credible resources and not so credible resources. And since there are many people here who are natives, we thought it would be a good place to ask for help. We are very grateful but if we sounded lazy, by all means we are trying very hard, its just that we were not confident enough to make our own decisions because we lack the ability to make our own decisions in terms of source credibility. </p>
<p>As for your question, unfortunately i cannot be of much assistance because that is not the focus of our research. As a matter of fact, U.S beef saftey is not even the focus of our paper. Our focus is purely business and we neglected the health issue entirely. This was our fault but since we could be attacked on these health issues, we were merely preparing in case we had to defend ourselves. Because our conclusion is highly pro import of american beef, we could get attacked considering the highly politicized nature of this issue. It is a very ridiculous situation as many have commented but social issues become very extreme in this country. it is very unfortunate. If you are suggesting we should counter argue indicating the unsafe nature of Korean beef, maybe that could be a good idea. We will consider that. </p>
<p>ps. we are not really graded on this.. but we are trying to use this as a basis for a larger project.</p>
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