Hurry, someone get the news to Sohn Hak-kyu!
In a new Hanes T-Shirt commerical Charlie Sheen plays himself and acting the over eager fan, asks Michael Jordan if he wants to go out for dinner and eat some Korean barbecue (a.ka. LA Galbi) for which Michael says “no.” Here is the Youtube.
So, it’s not a diss on Korean beef per say… but I do hope that Korean netizens don’t get a hold of this.
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I’m probably stating the obvious, but the Korean BBQ reference is device used to joke about their respective images, that of Charlie Sheen being so ‘Hollywood’ and Michael Jordan being a ‘regular guy’. The message is that it’s trendy to be a regular ‘Hanes-wearing’ guy.
…that and everybody wants to be like Mike.
But, yeah. This will probably go right over the heads of many of the k-netizens who get a hold of this.
Oh yeah, my guess is that no one is going to catch the subtle message behind this ad….. Yikes. I see more candle light vigils….
[irony] I do hope that Korean netizens don’t get a hold of this. [/irony]
Yeah, forgot to add that metatag. Thanks Rob.
Oh, and on the bright side, it appears that Charlie Sheen likes Korean barbecue. However, I’d much rather associate my culture with MJ then weird Charlie.
Since Koreans think the whole world is fixated on Korea, they’ll assume this is payback for the candlelight demonstrations.
It’s clear that they just don’t understand Korea and are trying to distort Korean culture. I expect VANK to be on the case before lunch.
Even a rudimentary knowledge of English would be enough to know this wasn’t a slight on Korean beef (actually, it was a compliment if you consider the act of trying to impress a potential business partner as CS was obviously doing) but this nuance will go over the head of all but the most advanced speakers. Which group will the Korean mass media fall into once they get ahold of this?
Also, MJ was trying to get away from Sheen, so, you don’t actually know his opinion on Korean bbq.
#9, you’d have to be able to grokk things like oblique references and the fact that everything isn’t about you. I predict lots of jumping to the defence of kimchi and much disparaging of cheeseu to follow.
Well Korean BBQ sold in the States is actually made from “U.S. beef,” so it would be a little rash to conclude that MJ is “rejecting Korean beef.”
Hence, Korean BBQ = Korean style cuisine, not Korean beef.
6: Yeah. it’s funny how Koren netijens don’t realize that being mocked IS a back-handed validation — Stephen Colbert didn’t make fun of Tanzania’s top star; he made fun of KOREA’s top star — that shows korea’s got clout these days.
Would they have been happier if Charlie Sheen had suggested sushi? (which he certainly would have, had this ad been made in 1998, or even 2002) — the fact he DIDN’T suggest sushi shows something. . . but I expect that fact to fly over the heads of most of the kimcheerleaders.
Charlie Sheen, though? Should’ve done Bob Saget instead.
Isn’t MJ really saying no to American beef? Korean restaurants in LA import Korean beef for their grills?
# 12 and 14,
Yes I know. It was an attempt at satire.
If your definition of “clout” is the ability to manipulate and ballot-stuff online polls, then yes. Colbert would’ve mocked whoever bested him in the poll, regardless of the clout that person’s country wielded.
The satire worked so well only because Rain was completely unknown to 99.9% of Colbert’s audience, and with the title “World’s Most Influential Person,” the juxtaposition made for enduring comedy. Had it been David Beckham or Heidi Klum, or an actual famous person from a country with actual clout, it would have been a one-segment dig at the celeb instead of the ongoing bit, video parody, guest spot, etc.
Haaaay, he said Korean BBQ! It’s an acknowledgement of Korea! Heeeyyy now!
It is amusing to see How ignorant Many Americans are.
Koreans are rejecting the current deal not because they don’t like American beef but they get to eat what most Americans don’t eat.
IHBB: You’re right about if Becks, or Klum were #1 instead, but sure, clout can be expressed in units of netijensanity (in which case Korea has a solid case for being #2, worldwide, after China), though netijensanity does need to be considered alongside clout in many, many other areas (duh), for example, in units of “Americans who realize that Samsung is Korean, and not Japanese,” etc..
Colbert could also have dropped the segment entirely, not even dignifying it with a mocking.
The dance-off, and especially the fist-shaking barbaric “RAAAIIINNNN!” yawp (as well as the awed “Rain” whisper at the end) were the highest of high comedy to me.
Hub of clout. I like the sound of that.
Well, Carlos Estevez… er, I mean Charlie Sheen is just weird. I could see why MJ wanted to get the hell away. He’s like a non-Scientology version of Tom Cruise.
Speaking of other celebs and Korean BBQ, I saw David Spade at Chosun Galbi in Koreatown LA a couple of years ago.
I say no to Korean beef too.
The last time I had 한우, it tasted horrible.
@18
You are absolutely right. And fans kill too!
18% of all US cattle slaughtered for human consumption is over 30 months. In fact, only 2% of beef exported to Korea prior to the 2003 import ban was over 30 months. So we’re talking about 2% of squat consumed by Koreans, versus 18% of a fucking lot consumed by Americans. Americans eat more 30+ month beef in a day than Koreans eat in a year.
You may as well find a new ID to post with Pinocchio, because within a few short days of introducing yourself on this blog, you’re already known as an ignorant peddler of bullshit.
Pawi and several others already made themselves laughingstocks by claiming Americans don’t consume 30+ month beef, after which numerous links were posted proving them wrong. So welcome to their world of irrelevance, where everyone laughs at you and disregards everything you post from here on.
[quote]You may as well find a new ID to post with Pinocchio, because within a few short days of introducing yourself on this blog, you’re already known as an ignorant peddler of bullshit.[/quote]
OH SNAP!!!!
OWNED!!!!!
Ah, Pinocchio’s not bad, although I’m not sure if I like being called a 찌질이, or having my blog threatened with being 초토화’ed:
http://gall.dcinside.com/list......038;page=1
Since I’m not a professional, I admit what I know might have been wrong.
As I said in the other threads, I’m quiet willing to listen and be informed
if the government and those that agree American beef give me ‘the science and facts about American beef’ to prove yourselves right.
I’ll translate this article and discuss it with 찌질이s in JinjungKwon Gall.
Here is a 찌질이 from JinjungKwon Gall.
The point is very simple.
1. We dont know whether the beef soon to be imported is dangerous or not. Some quacks insist talks about probability. However probability can be computed only if we have thorough knowledge. How can you know the probability of having 1 is equal to 1/6 without actually seeing the shape of the die?
Well… BSE is not fully studied and is still in many ways foreign to human. And nobody has so far eaten all parts of cow as koreans do. Simply we have no data. In terms of probability theory, it is impossible to talk about probaility. It might have been either exagerated or underestimated. Science says we dont know. That’s it.
2. If the consumers can tell the difference between american, korean and australian beef, the problem might not be so serious. But the point is that they look exactly the same. Korean consumers cannot choose.
If koreans eat every part of american beef for the next decade, then it would be an unprecedented human biological experiment even though I have no intention to participate in it.
#27 -
Well then Lumpen, the Korean government should ban the sale and consumption of any and all beef products, regardless of source.
After all, we just don’t know.
If the government is not willing to do that, and the Korean people are not willing to totally eschew the consumption of beef and beef products, then they just need to SHUT THE FUCK UP. Because there’s not a shred of evidence to suggest that US beef is less safe than any other.
We don’t know “how dangerous the american beef.”
There have been BSE incidents in US while not in Korea.
I don’t care whether korea imports american beef or not AS LONG AS I CAN STAY AWAY FROM IT WHENEVER I WANT TO.
Now see the point?
Sparkling// Clinical BSE is Extremely rare in animals under 30months of age; there only have been 84cases to date, representing 0.05% of all BSE cases(www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/bse/general/qa/section1.html#q1
In other words, 99.95% of all BSE have been found in animals older than 30months old.
All Koreans want is beef less than 30months old and SRM gotten rid of.
FYI they use tens of different ingredients in a single korean dish. If I want to stop eating beef, it is very hard to find food without beef. It’s possible in US, but nt in korea.
Also I am emphasizing that it’s impossible to figure out the probability of getting BSE by eating american beef. there are many cons saying it’s like the probability of being hit by thunder or things like that. It’s so unscientific.
Strange question, if I may? Why do you guys call yourselves 찌질이 over there?
And does Jin Jung-gwon actually post much over there? I noticed he left a 감사글.
Just curious.
PS: I’m not actually 극우. More of a libertarian, if you must know the truth. And thanks for commenting — don’t agree with you, per se, but it’s nice to get the other side of the story.
Clinical BSE is extremely rare PERIOD. FULL STOP.
Further, the detected cases in the US were in cows that were over 120 months of age.
There is no science behind the hysteria that currently rules the streets of Seoul. Even as misquoted, Ambassador Vershbow was dead on.
Quit trying to rationalize the irrational. The people on the streets, and the politicians egging them on, are full of shit.
Can we please play nice? Thank you.
Sparkling!//
Saying “rare” is very unscientific statement. I told you. period.
You have to study the concept of probability before you talk about this.
I told you. This is less important compared to the consumer information issue.
Sparkling// Do you think that the people on the street is fighting only against american beef? lol
Study and read korean news paper. By the way do you speak korean?
양키 똘추? Somehow, Lumpen, I doubt Jin Jung-gwon would approve…
#32
I don’t call myself 찌질이. But some people do. It roughly means “stupid jerk” but impossible to fully translate the nuances. I think it’s more or less friendly expression.
I have never seen 진중권’s post other that that.
Yeah the Most important fact that drove this candle rally is not American beef alone. While it acted as a catalyst, The most important was pretty much every policies and ideas this government intends to bring in to ‘revive the economy’. One of examples is the privatisation of what used to be public resources(e.g. Electricity, Water and potentially health insurance).
People are left feeling forsaken by their government. They feel they’ll be left in a jungle with endless competition for survival. Also, the stubbornness of the government on their schemes such as Canal projects and so on. This feeling of disappointment and fear is driving this large scale of peaceful demonstration.
well… in dcinside it’s not an offence to call other people name.
i don’t use such expression in any other place.
Yeah, I knew what it meant, but was curious as to how you guys were using it. Thanks.
JinJunkkwon said in an interview that he often visits and reads in JinjungKwon gall but never writes except that 감사글.
Excuse me for a second while I bray with derisive laughter. I promise it’ll be short. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Okay. All better now. I can see where you’re coming from, having certain objections against eating meat myself. It’s certainly difficult to not eat any beef or beef product in Korea, but by no stretch of the imagination is it ‘impossible’. Cook for yourself if you’re that worried, for god’s sake… you can be reasonably sure that the head of cabbage you get at the Nong Hyup is not, in fact, American beef. Nor is it in any way likely that any carrot or even cut of fish or pork you get there will contain even a trace amount of American beef. Rice in Korea should be presumptively safe, since not only can’t it be part cow, it can’t even come from America (although American rice can be used in processed foods, so watch out for the mad rice disease… best to stay away from those puffed rice snacks).
But is that ‘absence’ of BSE in Korea really a result of Korean cows being cleaner? After all, since absolutely no protections are in place against BSE in Korean beef cows, the entire herd could be infected with BSE, and you wouldn’t even know. And not all cases of BSE can be linked to what you feed a cow — some appear to arise spontaneously. How safe does that make you feel?
Lumpen,
I’m Korean and I’ve been eating every part of an American cow for 30 years and I’m perfectly healthy. Sul lung tang, Gori gom tang, galbi, bulgogi, steak, etc. Beef tounge, beef tail, intestines, ribs, flank, etc. I love it all. So have my 2+ million of my fellow North American gyopos. We are all perfectly healthy.
It isn’t about the beef any more because it’s just a great big giant red herring. It’s about political opponents of LMB who want to bring down his government by whipping up the crowd to a mass frenzy with hearsay and gross speculation. It’s stupendously ridiculous.
If you want to protest the FTA, LMB’s pro chaebol leanings, the larger U.S. and S.Korean relationship do so. But to use U.S. beef as a pretense to it with bad logical reasoning and fear mongering as the foundation will make Koreans look phenomenally stupid to not just the U.S. but to the rest of the developed world.
You guys are overreacting.
MJ is saying no to dinner with Charlie Sheen. He isn’t saying no to Korean BBQ or US beef for that matter.
I think most of us know that actually.
It’s just that we are worried if the standard Korean netizen will know that… or at least that’s what I think.
Personally, I don’t think most people here would give a rat’s vagina what the standard Korean netijen knows or thinks. Other than to make fun of them, of course…
Well, the “standard” Korean netizen is probably busy beating the crap out of LMB and his brother.
And I don’t know but for some reason it seems that videos like that rarely causes a wrinke in the fabric of Korean netizenship. Maybe they are getting smarter? A smart Korean netizen, now there’s a new concept.
No one would have cared about that video had the kyopo not posted it here. This typifies the hypocrite kyopo who on one hand says that he hopes the Korean netizen not get hold of his video while on the other posts it here knowing full well that Korean netizens keep tabs on expat blogs.
The kyopo also wrongly misinterprets the video. Which reminds me, another kyopo called bumfromkorea savaged a guest blogger for misinterpreting a news article, now why is he letting this go? Kyopo unity at work? Or Kyopo hypocrisy?
“Kyopo unity at work? Or Kyopo hypocrisy?”
It’s neither. I just thought it would be kinda funny considering that everyone’s been rubbed raw over the whole beef thing.
Why you gotta pop a gasket over nothing?
Jews, Masons, Gyopo… it’s hard to keep up with my conspiracies nowadays.
There is a Kyopo conspiracy? The things you learn in the Hole….
The greater issue, which isn’t discussed here enough, is that no domestic criticism of a major domestic food industry is tolerated. (The TV documentaries about the evils of fast food show American chains and not Korean ones.) So whenever a food is criticized, it’s invariably an import kind of food. This is the first time the Korean media have dwelled at any length on the issue of factory farming. I’ve already talked to several Koreans who think that factory farms are an exclusively American thing.
No one in the medical field thinks red meat is good for you any more. (As positive as they get is: not harmful in moderate qualities.) So when I hear Koreans acting self-righteously as if beef is their new staple food that has to go into every thing they eat - there’s a deadly diet right there. So now it’s like they’re demonstrating against the import of dangerous cigarettes. Plain old red meat minus mad cow disease kills a hell of a lot more people every year than mad cow disease ever did. But that’s another thing the media can’t/won’t say here. It has to act as if Korean beef is a health food.
should say: moderate quantities
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