Comments on: BREAKING NEWS: Report Claims 8th US Army Command Leaving Korea in 2012

By: baduk

baduk — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:53:43 +0000

The second China-Japan war is coming. Most casualties will be Koreans.

By: lirelou

lirelou — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:59:02 +0000

Shut it down now! The goals of 1950 were realized decades ago. Why hang around? The sad thing is that I left Puerto Rico in 2001 and moved to Korea, expecting that I was leaving a U.S. territory with a third world mentality for a first world nation. What a disappointment! Yes, there are segments of Korea that possess a First World mentality, and they have made Korea a modern nation. But intellectually, there is a strong third-world mentality that banishes some Koreans to a realm where emotion, rather than logic, rules. Why should the US continute to underwrite much of the military component of such a state? Grant Puerto Rico independence, whether it has the guts to vote for or against it, or not, and cut Korea loose to realize the fruits of all its labors. It is not a third world country, and it is time that it stood up and accepted full responsibility for its own defense.

By: Haksaeng

Haksaeng — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:52:03 +0000

Johnson, I guess it all depends on what you expect that command to do. Remember, we are talking a post-Combined Forces Command world. The South Koreans are in charge of the battle, not the US. Therefore, the South Korean command needs to grow stronger and the US command needs to shrink.

Eighth Army only exists to command US units that would enter the Peninsula in time of war. The battlefield today is a lot different than the battlefield 20 years ago when CFC was formed. South Korea doesn’t really need the US to help defeat the Norks. That’s one reason why there is only one US infantry brigade on the Korean Peninsula, not multiple divisions, much less multiple corps, which would necessitate the existence of an Army command. Eighth Army has outlived its usefulness. Its command assets are more needed elsewhere.

By: Johnson

Johnson — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:53:22 +0000

It makes sense….where do you want an Army Command?

1 - 60 km / 2 hrs from being utterly overrun

2 - Further back safe in the rear.

#2 seems to make so much sense I’ve wondered before why 8th Army command is here at all.

By: Haksaeng

Haksaeng — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:48:04 +0000

As was mentioned by others, this move has been in the works for some time. GIKorea covered this back in 2005 with this story, http://rokdrop.com/2005/06/16/.....-for-usfk/. You can even read it in the font of all human knowledge, Wikipedia, “The Headquarters of the Eighth Army is located at Yongsan Garrison, but it is scheduled to move south to Camp Humphreys by 2012. Competing with the scheduled move to Camp Humphreys is a possible redeployment of US ground forces from South Korea back to the United States. Tentative plans include the redeployment of Eighth Army to Hawaii where it will merge with US Army Pacific. US Army Pacific and Eighth Army will then serve as the Army component command of US Pacific Command (PACOM). This is akin to the Army merged command structure (i.e. US Army Europe and Seventh Army) that supports US European Command (EUCOM).”

Regarding Max’s comment on the ongoing construction at P’yongt’aek, the bulk of that construction is for USFK and the remaining brigade from 2ID. Some of that construction will also be used by the South Korean military as it is also having to move some of its soldiers since USFK will no longer be on Yongsan.

By: dong9chin9

dong9chin9 — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:23:26 +0000

Good. FUCK OFF!

AND DON’T COME BACK.

mind you, its funny of the toady joongang to bring this up now.

By: Galbijim.com » Blog Archive » Hey Walk-uh! Get out and take your beef with ya! (But leave the golf course)

Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:02:29 +0000

[...] latest musing about camp closures appear to indicate that the bulk of USFK forces will be pulling out and moving to Hawaii by 2012. Shit, then that’s gotta be, like what, 2017, [...]

By: Galbijim.com » Blog Archive » Hey Walk-uh! Get out and take your beef with ya! (But leave the golf course)

Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:01:26 +0000

[...] from Beyond Thunderdome borrowed from MadMaxMovies) The latest musing about camp closures appear to indicate that the bulk of USFK forces will be pulling out and moving to Hawaii by 2012. Shit, then that’s gotta be, like what, 2017, [...]

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:17:50 +0000

Actually, this article is completely right. They are not saying that the US is pulling out, but the command itself is leaving. Over a year ago, now-retired CSM Wheeler informed me and a room full of soldiers about this over a year ago. He said they were in the process of either A) dissolving 8th Army completely and letting PACOM command Korea B)Move the headquarters to Hawaii. He joked about not being in the army long enough to get to be 8th Army CSM living in Hawaii. The time frame may be off, but the fact that big changes for 8th Army are coming is probably certain.

By: Biff McBurger

Biff McBurger — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:50:00 +0000

2012 can’t come soon enough! Pointless to have 28,000+ plus GI’s positioned in an area where they’ll be nothing but cannon fodder within the first 3 minutes of the eventual NK bombardment of SK.

Might as well have operations conducted from the safety of PACOM where bombers in Japan, Guam, Hawaii and whatever aircraft battlegroup is in the vicinty mop up the mess.