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	<title>Comments on: No Need to Renegotiate Beef Deal: US Ambassador</title>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor ambassador</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor ambassador</p>
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		<title>By: MigukNamja</title>
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		<dc:creator>MigukNamja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Cow 2008 actually reminds me of Gulf War 2003.

The original and subsequent justifications are discovered to have no basis on facts, so the justifications shift.

Yet, in the case of Mad Cow 2008, it's ye olde "anti-Americanism to swing the politics to the left" strategy that's brought out periodically by the xenophobic, hyper-peninsulatic far left wing of Korean politics.

I really gotta hand it to the DPRK for doing such an effective job infiltrating ROK politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Cow 2008 actually reminds me of Gulf War 2003.</p>
<p>The original and subsequent justifications are discovered to have no basis on facts, so the justifications shift.</p>
<p>Yet, in the case of Mad Cow 2008, it&#8217;s ye olde &#8220;anti-Americanism to swing the politics to the left&#8221; strategy that&#8217;s brought out periodically by the xenophobic, hyper-peninsulatic far left wing of Korean politics.</p>
<p>I really gotta hand it to the DPRK for doing such an effective job infiltrating ROK politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Politicians Pissed at Ambassador Vershbow for &#8216;Science&#8217; Comment &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politicians Pissed at Ambassador Vershbow for &#8216;Science&#8217; Comment &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sure you see the problem. I know one respected commenter has told me to lay off Sandy for the phone call thing, but this time, I really hope he does call up Sohn to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sure you see the problem. I know one respected commenter has told me to lay off Sandy for the phone call thing, but this time, I really hope he does call up Sohn to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: American Seoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Seoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 Absolutely, this would seem to solve most of the problems if this were about health, but just like 2002 was not really about an apology either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 Absolutely, this would seem to solve most of the problems if this were about health, but just like 2002 was not really about an apology either.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"With a finishing flury, he said — and this is DLP rhetoric at its finest — that Vershbow should remember that if he continued to disrespect Korea’s sovereignty and insult its people, he along with mad cow beef would be stopped from setting foot in Korea."

This reminds me of one of the minor oddities I remember from my time in Korea: the firm, although utterly incorrect, view of some Koreans that they could personally have a foreigner deported at will.  

I came across it once in a dispute with a Korean myself, and have heard it anecodatally a score of times besides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With a finishing flury, he said — and this is DLP rhetoric at its finest — that Vershbow should remember that if he continued to disrespect Korea’s sovereignty and insult its people, he along with mad cow beef would be stopped from setting foot in Korea.&#8221;</p>
<p>This reminds me of one of the minor oddities I remember from my time in Korea: the firm, although utterly incorrect, view of some Koreans that they could personally have a foreigner deported at will.  </p>
<p>I came across it once in a dispute with a Korean myself, and have heard it anecodatally a score of times besides.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among the things pawi doesn't recognize is...well..the science behind the "debate."  The proliferation of pseudoscience appears to have infected him though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the things pawi doesn&#8217;t recognize is&#8230;well..the science behind the &#8220;debate.&#8221;  The proliferation of pseudoscience appears to have infected him though.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's an idea:  the Korean government should pass a law that deems beef from cattle older than 30 months old unfit for human consumption (fine for pets, not for humans).  I wonder why nobody seems to be making that suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea:  the Korean government should pass a law that deems beef from cattle older than 30 months old unfit for human consumption (fine for pets, not for humans).  I wonder why nobody seems to be making that suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: r.rac</title>
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		<dc:creator>r.rac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 that is unfrigginbelieve, she cant study because shes worried about eating american beef?? Man I got to send that one back to the family stateside or at least to Keith Olberman for his "dumbest person in the world" segment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 that is unfrigginbelieve, she cant study because shes worried about eating american beef?? Man I got to send that one back to the family stateside or at least to Keith Olberman for his &#8220;dumbest person in the world&#8221; segment</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/03/no-need-to-renegotiate-beef-deal-us-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-158162</link>
		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"That is hilarious! Amazing logic going on with that one. I could step out onto a crosswalk and just die, therefore, all cars should be banned."

Unfortunately, in Yoon-min's case - or that of other Korean kids - getting killed by a car isn't exactly outside the realm of possibility.  

Speaking of driving safety, Lee Myung Bak just gave a pardon to over 2 million Koreans with suspended licences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is hilarious! Amazing logic going on with that one. I could step out onto a crosswalk and just die, therefore, all cars should be banned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in Yoon-min&#8217;s case - or that of other Korean kids - getting killed by a car isn&#8217;t exactly outside the realm of possibility.  </p>
<p>Speaking of driving safety, Lee Myung Bak just gave a pardon to over 2 million Koreans with suspended licences!</p>
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		<title>By: White House &#8216;Concerned&#8217; About Beef Fiasco AND Where Beef Meets Bass Fishing &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
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		<dc:creator>White House &#8216;Concerned&#8217; About Beef Fiasco AND Where Beef Meets Bass Fishing &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quote of the day, from the WaPo (HT to Blueballs): Cha Yoon-min, 13, marched on City Hall on Saturday night with his mother, a lawyer in Seoul. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] quote of the day, from the WaPo (HT to Blueballs): Cha Yoon-min, 13, marched on City Hall on Saturday night with his mother, a lawyer in Seoul. [...]</p>
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