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		<title>By: Wedge</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157683</link>
		<dc:creator>Wedge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#86: I think that was a misdirection anyway. We know Brendon was hanging in the Castro all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#86: I think that was a misdirection anyway. We know Brendon was hanging in the Castro all along.</p>
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		<title>By: john brandt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157588</link>
		<dc:creator>john brandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooopss... that was from the 5th round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooopss&#8230; that was from the 5th round.</p>
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		<title>By: john brandt</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157587</link>
		<dc:creator>john brandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are comments by Wendy Cutler, US trade rep (should this be capitalized,  you needledick?) at the 6th round of the FTA talks which took place in Dec. 2006 in Big Sky, Montana. She was answering a question from the Korean press corps. Go Wendy.

Question 3:
Given the importance that Congress has attached to opening the Korean market toAmerican beef, has there been any progress on that issue this week?

Cutler:
First, let me just say I’ve had the opportunity to talk to a number of reporters during the
week. And I’ve seen some of you in some restaurants here, and I understand that a number of
you have enjoyed delicious Montana beef while in the United States. You’ve told me it’s
delicious. You’ve told me it’s not expensive. And you look extremely healthy. So I would hope
that when you return to Korea you will urge your government to work with us and quickly reopen
this market.
As I said earlier this week, technically re-opening the beef market is not part of the FTA
negotiations. But this problem is in the back drop of everything we’ve been doing this week here
in Montana. Put simply, in the United States we will not have stakeholder and Congressional support for KORUS FTA agreement no matter how good it is unless the Korean beef market is fully opened. In my meetings with Ambassador Kim this week I have underscored repeatedly
the importance of Korea taking the necessary steps to re-open its market. And I will conclude on the beef issue to by just saying that we will shortly be requesting consultations with the
government of Korea to clarify its import and inspection procedures so we can get this beef market finally opened."

Now, it would be nice to see which of those same Korean journalists, if any, are fanning the flames of the beef scare now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are comments by Wendy Cutler, US trade rep (should this be capitalized,  you needledick?) at the 6th round of the FTA talks which took place in Dec. 2006 in Big Sky, Montana. She was answering a question from the Korean press corps. Go Wendy.</p>
<p>Question 3:<br />
Given the importance that Congress has attached to opening the Korean market toAmerican beef, has there been any progress on that issue this week?</p>
<p>Cutler:<br />
First, let me just say I’ve had the opportunity to talk to a number of reporters during the<br />
week. And I’ve seen some of you in some restaurants here, and I understand that a number of<br />
you have enjoyed delicious Montana beef while in the United States. You’ve told me it’s<br />
delicious. You’ve told me it’s not expensive. And you look extremely healthy. So I would hope<br />
that when you return to Korea you will urge your government to work with us and quickly reopen<br />
this market.<br />
As I said earlier this week, technically re-opening the beef market is not part of the FTA<br />
negotiations. But this problem is in the back drop of everything we’ve been doing this week here<br />
in Montana. Put simply, in the United States we will not have stakeholder and Congressional support for KORUS FTA agreement no matter how good it is unless the Korean beef market is fully opened. In my meetings with Ambassador Kim this week I have underscored repeatedly<br />
the importance of Korea taking the necessary steps to re-open its market. And I will conclude on the beef issue to by just saying that we will shortly be requesting consultations with the<br />
government of Korea to clarify its import and inspection procedures so we can get this beef market finally opened.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, it would be nice to see which of those same Korean journalists, if any, are fanning the flames of the beef scare now.</p>
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		<title>By: usinkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157585</link>
		<dc:creator>usinkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was trying to be slightly witty...

I knew you don't live in Chicago or write for Variety - and given the amount of church pictures you have hanging around - and vague memories about comments you've made whenever an issue about Christians in Korea has come up over the years, I knew you were unlikely to be bashing a film for having a religious tone...

I just happened to come across that item when looking at the Newsbusters site...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was trying to be slightly witty&#8230;</p>
<p>I knew you don&#8217;t live in Chicago or write for Variety - and given the amount of church pictures you have hanging around - and vague memories about comments you&#8217;ve made whenever an issue about Christians in Korea has come up over the years, I knew you were unlikely to be bashing a film for having a religious tone&#8230;</p>
<p>I just happened to come across that item when looking at the Newsbusters site&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dong9chin9</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157579</link>
		<dc:creator>dong9chin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I once passed through the airport. SFX or something. I'd like to go someday though, race a ferrari through the streets, jump on to a moving tram, exchange wisecracks with the witty black tram conductor, steal a motor bike from a hippy, buy drugs from the back of a volkswagen kombi, take lsd and entwine my naked self with stoned big breasted women with long hair, set up a start up company that specializes in financing and corporate establishment procedures for new companies.
Maybe Brendon will even take me to Financial District for a coffee and a visit to his favorite bathhouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I once passed through the airport. SFX or something. I&#8217;d like to go someday though, race a ferrari through the streets, jump on to a moving tram, exchange wisecracks with the witty black tram conductor, steal a motor bike from a hippy, buy drugs from the back of a volkswagen kombi, take lsd and entwine my naked self with stoned big breasted women with long hair, set up a start up company that specializes in financing and corporate establishment procedures for new companies.<br />
Maybe Brendon will even take me to Financial District for a coffee and a visit to his favorite bathhouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157578</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I get it! He was bordering on satire, irony, self-deprecation and facetiousness. Well done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I get it! He was bordering on satire, irony, self-deprecation and facetiousness. Well done!</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157576</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dong9chin9, have you been to SF? Suburbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dong9chin9, have you been to SF? Suburbs?</p>
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		<title>By: dong9chin9</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157574</link>
		<dc:creator>dong9chin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it "The Financial District," "Financial District," or the "Financial District."
I wouldn't feel too bad about the mistake linkd, sounds like a stupid name for a suburb. Maybe you have been working with bad english for too long. There was a britain guy working at my old company that was the web editor, and he said his english became worse the longer he stayed in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it &#8220;The Financial District,&#8221; &#8220;Financial District,&#8221; or the &#8220;Financial District.&#8221;<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t feel too bad about the mistake linkd, sounds like a stupid name for a suburb. Maybe you have been working with bad english for too long. There was a britain guy working at my old company that was the web editor, and he said his english became worse the longer he stayed in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/31/open-thread-52/comment-page-2/#comment-157572</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pawi, the key word is reported. At least it's being reported. There aren't those kinds of stats here because, let's face it, what good would it do? We all saw how rip-roaring enthusiastic the police were in going after that guy who tried to kidnap the little girl in the elevator in Ilsan. Imagine how they are with spousal abuse. Don't tell me, I already know what you'll say. Believe me, I think it's f'd up wherever it rears its ugly head. But at least in the States there isn't as much of a stigma or an aura of futility involved in reporting it. There still is, but not to the same extent. Until five years ago they weren't even aware the problem existed in Japan. There still aren't any homosexuals, let alone violence against homosexuals in Iran. Beleeb It!
WJK, so before you start importing US beef you trust what's in your ramien? Only afterward will you wonder whether there's full and truthful disclosure? Only after US beef starts pouring in are they gonna start being dishonest? Are you sure the essence of beef you get in those packages isn't from Brasil or Mexico? How much regulation is involved at present that can't be overcome with the right amount of graft? Ramien seems like a pretty good value for someone to waste a chunk of grade A han beef on.
If US beef import opponents have such a sound argument why are they getting caught and retracting the lies of their arguments. Why can't they let their points stand on their own merit? Why did they lie about the woman dying in Texas? Why did they lie about the "Downer Cows" video? Why is it that the Korean doing the research on the gene that makes Koreans more suceptible to the disease a proponent of US beef and actually partakes of it, "Quite often". Why are they saying that Americans consume predominantly Austalian beef when in fact I've never seen Australian beef in supermarkets back home and my father hasn't either and has been trying since I told him to be on the lookout? Have you seen any? Statistics show that 92% of the beef produced in the States is actually consumed domestically.
Why did one opponent argue that quite often slaughterhouses include up to seven year old dairy cows past their prime in the mix? He stated that even those were consumed, domestically, in one way or another. Seems that a seven year old cow is well past that thirty month criteria that everyone says Americans don't eat. Can't have it both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pawi, the key word is reported. At least it&#8217;s being reported. There aren&#8217;t those kinds of stats here because, let&#8217;s face it, what good would it do? We all saw how rip-roaring enthusiastic the police were in going after that guy who tried to kidnap the little girl in the elevator in Ilsan. Imagine how they are with spousal abuse. Don&#8217;t tell me, I already know what you&#8217;ll say. Believe me, I think it&#8217;s f&#8217;d up wherever it rears its ugly head. But at least in the States there isn&#8217;t as much of a stigma or an aura of futility involved in reporting it. There still is, but not to the same extent. Until five years ago they weren&#8217;t even aware the problem existed in Japan. There still aren&#8217;t any homosexuals, let alone violence against homosexuals in Iran. Beleeb It!<br />
WJK, so before you start importing US beef you trust what&#8217;s in your ramien? Only afterward will you wonder whether there&#8217;s full and truthful disclosure? Only after US beef starts pouring in are they gonna start being dishonest? Are you sure the essence of beef you get in those packages isn&#8217;t from Brasil or Mexico? How much regulation is involved at present that can&#8217;t be overcome with the right amount of graft? Ramien seems like a pretty good value for someone to waste a chunk of grade A han beef on.<br />
If US beef import opponents have such a sound argument why are they getting caught and retracting the lies of their arguments. Why can&#8217;t they let their points stand on their own merit? Why did they lie about the woman dying in Texas? Why did they lie about the &#8220;Downer Cows&#8221; video? Why is it that the Korean doing the research on the gene that makes Koreans more suceptible to the disease a proponent of US beef and actually partakes of it, &#8220;Quite often&#8221;. Why are they saying that Americans consume predominantly Austalian beef when in fact I&#8217;ve never seen Australian beef in supermarkets back home and my father hasn&#8217;t either and has been trying since I told him to be on the lookout? Have you seen any? Statistics show that 92% of the beef produced in the States is actually consumed domestically.<br />
Why did one opponent argue that quite often slaughterhouses include up to seven year old dairy cows past their prime in the mix? He stated that even those were consumed, domestically, in one way or another. Seems that a seven year old cow is well past that thirty month criteria that everyone says Americans don&#8217;t eat. Can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>usinkorea: I'm not sure if you are joking are not --- due to poor genetics that you can probably make out from my last name, I was born without a sense of humor --- but in case you weren't, the last name "Koehler" is a fairly common one in the German-speaking word (see, for instance, former IMF chief and current German president Horst Koehler, or the bathroom fixtures company Kohler, founded by Austrian immigrant John Michael Kohler), while "Robert" is a very common given name throughout the Western world. Accordingly, the possibility that someone else might be blessed with the name "Robert Koehler" is not altogether remote. This is to say, I'm NOT Robert Koehler, the noted film critic who writes for VARIETY, nor am I Robert Koehler, the German-American painter who died in 1917.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>usinkorea: I&#8217;m not sure if you are joking are not &#8212; due to poor genetics that you can probably make out from my last name, I was born without a sense of humor &#8212; but in case you weren&#8217;t, the last name &#8220;Koehler&#8221; is a fairly common one in the German-speaking word (see, for instance, former IMF chief and current German president Horst Koehler, or the bathroom fixtures company Kohler, founded by Austrian immigrant John Michael Kohler), while &#8220;Robert&#8221; is a very common given name throughout the Western world. Accordingly, the possibility that someone else might be blessed with the name &#8220;Robert Koehler&#8221; is not altogether remote. This is to say, I&#8217;m NOT Robert Koehler, the noted film critic who writes for VARIETY, nor am I Robert Koehler, the German-American painter who died in 1917.</p>
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