Comments on: ROK to Buy Secondhand Apaches?

By: ROK Working Towards Yet Another “Indigenous” Weapons System | The Marmot's Hole

Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:33:39 +0000

[...] Recommended Seoul purchase 36 older U.S. AH-64D Apache Longbow attack helicopters to help fill the Army’s possible operational gap before the KAH is completed around 2013 at the earliest (as reported at the MH here). [...]

By: It’s Official. Apaches to Remain in Korea for Now | The Marmot's Hole

It’s Official. Apaches to Remain in Korea for Now | The Marmot's Hole — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:58:14 +0000

[...] does this mean that the possible sale of second hand Apaches to the ROK will be put on [...]

By: mins0306

mins0306 — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:18:48 +0000

Question: Do Koreans still refer to a Swiss Army knife as a “맥가이버 칼”?

Yes, they do.

By: Burma Bob

Burma Bob — Sat, 31 May 2008 14:43:23 +0000

“Yea baby. Anyone even remember Airwolf? Clearly that thing is battle tested and if I remember, it even took out jets. LOL. Airwolf, A-team, Knight Rider, MacGuyver, the ZENITH of 80’s American Television.”

During one of the bigger Team Sprit exercises in the mid-80’s, we were out in the field somewhere near Weonju, and I got to talking with a ROKA infantry regiment CSM. I asked him what I thought of our ability to bring in brigades from the US 9th, 7th, and 25th ID’s, as well as an armored BDE from Cal Guard…

“It is overkill. You should just send us Airwolf, Kit, and that crazy guy with the fancy knife! And Maybe Poncharello from CHIPs, to write tickets to the North Koreans.”

Question: Do Koreans still refer to a Swiss Army knife as a “맥가이버 칼”?

By: Wrenchbender

Wrenchbender — Sat, 31 May 2008 09:35:54 +0000

OK, OK, OK it’s Stringfellow Hawk not Hawkeye. Hawkeye was on MASH. SHEESH! We now bring you back to our regularly scheduled program.

By: stacked

stacked — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:07:16 +0000

I guess we know why the US military moved the Apaches in Korea to Iraq or wherever.

By: IronChefKorean

IronChefKorean — Sat, 31 May 2008 05:44:47 +0000

LOL Dong Chin’s comments are hilarious. Cancerous heart of the American project, LOL.

Shadow arm of the US government he might be but at the end of the day, as Airwolf engages its jet boosters to vanish into the sunset after downing several “baddies” of any ethnicity… one thing is penultimately clear.

HAWKEYE IS KING.

LOL it is funny how resonant Airwolf still is.

By: WangKon936

WangKon936 — Sat, 31 May 2008 03:23:12 +0000

“Of course the KMH was replaced with the KHP(Korea Helicopter Project) when Chung Dong-young decided that it was “cheaper” for Korea to develop its own utility helicopters first and then attack helos.”

That actually makes sense to me. Having an attack copter BEFORE a utility copter project is like putting the kart before the horse.

# 24,

Airwolf was awesome. I’m whistling the theme music as I write this. Although I did see a lot of unresolved American Vietnam War “han” pervading the entire series.

Think about it… Hawkeye’s brother MIA in Vietnam. A super attack helicopter prouncing around the globe. A government that wants “plausible deniability” so they contract Hawkeye to fight back against defiant rinky dink Middle Eastern countries and banana republics. A shadowy government agent who helps as well as hinders Hawkeye.

By: dong9chin9

dong9chin9 — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:42:44 +0000

Airwolf is a cultural manifestation of imperialist American culture. The theme song is a reconstituted reprise of Wagnerian martial movements. The color black represents the cancerous heart of the modern American project. The missiles were symbolic of Anglo-American phallic memes. And MacGuyver was a paedophile.

By: mins0306

mins0306 — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:42:26 +0000

AIRWOLF, sure brings back memories.

Korea selected the AH-64D as its next attack helo on 2001 as part of the AH-X project. If Korea had followed through, 36 new build Apaches would have been bought and they would be flying today in ROKA markings. But instead it decided to build its own attack and utility choppers under the KMH(Korea Medium Helicopter) programme, which was scrapped as too expensive on 2004. Of course the KMH was replaced with the KHP(Korea Helicopter Project) when Chung Dong-young decided that it was “cheaper” for Korea to develop its own utility helicopters first and then attack helos.

#18

It’s not just the spare parts. The ROKAF also hates upgrading its aircraft. Let’s take the example of the F-4E Phantom. Unlike Greece, Turkey, Germany, and Japan, which had upgraded their F-4s to keep up with the times, the ROK operates its F-4s in the same configuration that they were delivered in. Same goes for its F-5E/Fs.