Comments on: Koreans have a “beef” against Korean-Americans? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/ Korea... in Blog Format Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:26:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: crimf http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-161594 crimf Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:39:38 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-161594 This beef uproar reminds me of the IMF restrictions on South Korea around 2000. During that time, South Korean Nationals held equally distorted perspectives on the "evil" IMF and how the IMF was responsible for all their economic woes. I was there visiting at the time and listening in disbelief. "Because of the IMF" started any sentence about the economy. A few of my cousins and friends who watch international news and knew better and told me that the Koreans are told this crap everywhere they go, TV, school, friends. They can't possibly blame themselves for the mess they were in. There is no point in trying to educate them. They want to believe that South Korea is unjustly being victimized by the IMF/UN. It's hopeless to try convincing them. It's probably already permeated their language. Instead of "because of the IMF," it might be "beware the beef." This beef uproar reminds me of the IMF restrictions on South Korea around 2000. During that time, South Korean Nationals held equally distorted perspectives on the “evil” IMF and how the IMF was responsible for all their economic woes. I was there visiting at the time and listening in disbelief. “Because of the IMF” started any sentence about the economy. A few of my cousins and friends who watch international news and knew better and told me that the Koreans are told this crap everywhere they go, TV, school, friends. They can’t possibly blame themselves for the mess they were in. There is no point in trying to educate them. They want to believe that South Korea is unjustly being victimized by the IMF/UN.

It’s hopeless to try convincing them. It’s probably already permeated their language. Instead of “because of the IMF,” it might be “beware the beef.”

]]> By: dogbert http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-154042 dogbert Thu, 15 May 2008 18:51:15 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-154042 Also, the Japanese-Americans who were interned (or at least most of them) were not even dissenters. Their only "crime" was to be born as ethnic Japanese. Also, the Japanese-Americans who were interned (or at least most of them) were not even dissenters. Their only “crime” was to be born as ethnic Japanese.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-154037 WangKon936 Thu, 15 May 2008 17:52:30 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-154037 I'm actually torn on the issue. Security vs. Freedom. Hummm... I would say that executive order 9066 interning Japanese Americans was excessive, but Lincoln declaring martial law and suspending the writ of habeas corpus in the border states probably saved said states from sliding into the confederacy. It has to be done with extreme discretion because each time you do it you warp the constitution and set a precedent that can be followed by less scrupulous leaders. I’m actually torn on the issue. Security vs. Freedom. Hummm…

I would say that executive order 9066 interning Japanese Americans was excessive, but Lincoln declaring martial law and suspending the writ of habeas corpus in the border states probably saved said states from sliding into the confederacy.

It has to be done with extreme discretion because each time you do it you warp the constitution and set a precedent that can be followed by less scrupulous leaders.

]]> By: dogbert http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-154035 dogbert Thu, 15 May 2008 17:03:09 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-154035 @74: there have always been limits on the right of dissent, and you are naïve if you think this is an absolute right any sovereign will protect at the expense of its own existence. Especially during wartime. @74: there have always been limits on the right of dissent, and you are naïve if you think this is an absolute right any sovereign will protect at the expense of its own existence. Especially during wartime.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-154027 WangKon936 Thu, 15 May 2008 15:42:34 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-154027 # 38, Next time I'm at <a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/hwarosarang-buena-park" rel="nofollow">Hwarosarang</a>, I'll take pictures of their "wall of Famous Koreans enjoying our LA galbi" and post them up. # 38,

Next time I’m at Hwarosarang, I’ll take pictures of their “wall of Famous Koreans enjoying our LA galbi” and post them up.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-154026 WangKon936 Thu, 15 May 2008 15:39:39 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-154026 Nice article at Dong-A. Eni Faleomavaega, Democrat Congressman and chairman of the Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia said,"I was shocked to learn that some Koreans attacked Korean Americans for siding with the U.S. exporters." If he knew something about Korean history, then he wouldn't be so shocked. Koreans attack their kind all the time and have been doing it for centuries. http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=060000&biid=2008051443168 Nice article at Dong-A. Eni Faleomavaega, Democrat Congressman and chairman of the Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia said,”I was shocked to learn that some Koreans attacked Korean Americans for siding with the U.S. exporters.”

If he knew something about Korean history, then he wouldn’t be so shocked. Koreans attack their kind all the time and have been doing it for centuries.

http://english.donga.com/srv/s.....8051443168

]]> By: J http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-153951 J Thu, 15 May 2008 05:56:23 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-153951 dogbert, do you think people have the right to dissent to their own government or country? If they do have such rights, the government cannot detain such dissenters, even if not detaining them leads to collapse of the country. I find Americans have a tendency to put national security above human rights, and that bothers me a lot. dogbert, do you think people have the right to dissent to their own government or country? If they do have such rights, the government cannot detain such dissenters, even if not detaining them leads to collapse of the country. I find Americans have a tendency to put national security above human rights, and that bothers me a lot.

]]> By: day4night http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-153827 day4night Wed, 14 May 2008 23:31:40 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-153827 OK Brendon so would you go so far as to say that empiricism as developed especially during the Enlightenment (Hume, for example) has not really penetrated Korean culture beyond the hard sciences? Because that's my impression. OK Brendon so would you go so far as to say that empiricism as developed especially during the Enlightenment (Hume, for example) has not really penetrated Korean culture beyond the hard sciences? Because that’s my impression.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-153763 WangKon936 Wed, 14 May 2008 16:53:03 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-153763 Nah, sorry for the misunderstanding. Nah, sorry for the misunderstanding.

]]> By: dogbert http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/13/korams-lapdogs-of-the-imperialist-americans/#comment-153761 dogbert Wed, 14 May 2008 16:48:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/?p=6587#comment-153761 Fair enough--that's something I would not want to be seen as supporting. Fair enough–that’s something I would not want to be seen as supporting.

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