A Fearful Bit of Trolling — Chinese Style

John Kennedy of Globalvoicesonline.org has posted interesting look at a Chinese exchange troll, allegedly living here in Korea, who claims that Koreans are now persecuting Chinese students — the same ones who were only trying to protect the “sacred flame” (sure). While this poster’s grasp on reality is blatantly distorted, some of the Chinese comments are pretty funny because it seems that quite a few Chinese know what dung smells like as well and they waste no time calling bs on it.

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19 Comments

  1. Gravatar mateomiguel your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 6:46 pm | Permalink

    Is this a blog post about a blog post that translated a blog post (and comments) from Chinese to English? Cuz that is so meta I want to meta-cry.

  2. Gravatar user-81 your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 7:06 pm | Permalink

    With all the problems your own country has, do you still dare come out and protest? No, you run off to protest in other countries and you don’t even know how to rationally express your opinions. Others express differing opinions and you all start beating people like you were Red Guards, ignoring the laws of another country.

    If that’s a Chinese person who actually wrote that then I’m very happy.

    John Kennedy asks a good question: How would you know if the Chinese beating is true or not? Things like that could happen without the press knowing about it or getting involved.

  3. Gravatar cm your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

    Are those comments really Chinese peoples’ comments? That was surprising. That blog says the story is playing heavy in Chinese net. China’s anti Korean backlash is growing everyday, it’s going to get worse in the days to come. The Chinese government has already canceled some Korean pop and b-boy concerts in Beijing to teach Korea a lesson.

  4. Gravatar cm your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 7:48 pm | Permalink

    user-81, it could have happened of course. But the way she and most Chinese have twisted the facts around (just look at the way she describes the Olympic protesters, or all those stash of Youtube videos showing Chinese as victims who did nothing wrong), that it’s like a boy crying wolf. In other words, your credibility is shot.

  5. Posted May 6, 2008 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    The negative comments could easily have been written by Taiwanese.

    Call me pessimistic, but I don’t see mainland Chinese leaping to the defense of Koreans.

  6. Gravatar R. Elgin your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 9:19 pm | Permalink

    If I have read John’s entry correctly, the responses listed are Chinese commenting on this person’s posting. The person claims to be a Chinese woman but who can tell?

    Actually “cm”, the Chinese police claimed they canceled certain Korean-oriented events because they claimed they could not guarantee the safety of those involved.

    I’ve noticed that a few Chinese trolls have even claimed that the video of Chinese fighting in Seoul were actually Koreans disguised as Chinese! (I kid you not) I do not think that most Chinese would buy that story, unless they were incredibly dumb.

  7. Gravatar cm your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 9:24 pm | Permalink

    “I do not think that most Chinese would buy that story”

    They already have.

  8. Posted May 6, 2008 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

    A few of the Chinese exchange students around my University have been looking pretty run down lately. I would not be surprised if they have been going through a pretty rough time - deserved or not.

  9. Gravatar slim your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 11:19 pm | Permalink

    “Everybody was kung fu fighting….
    Those cats were fast as lightning
    And it was a litle bit frightening….”

    Couldn’t resist.

  10. Gravatar aaronm your flag
    Posted May 6, 2008 at 11:47 pm | Permalink

    Or raised on a daily buttload of propaganda.

  11. Gravatar R. Elgin your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 12:09 am | Permalink

    I am curious if anyone else here has heard of any real harassment going on. Having lived here for a fairly long time and having read that imaginative tale that John Kennedy posted about, I am very skeptical that any Chinese are catching anything more than some non-verbal cold shoulder, which is a badly needed educational experience, IMHO.

  12. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 3:16 am | Permalink

    #8,

    Well, all seems to be back to normal today. People are generally smart enough to recognize the good in others.

  13. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 5:38 am | Permalink

    I read that story on a news portal a few days ago; the blogger didn’t post any links or otherwise give credit to the source.

    I do not know if the Chinese student’s story is true, but it certainly is plausible to any American. Nearly every single incident of verbal harassment or physical intimidation on account of my nationality while in Korea occurred when a big GI crime story like the 1995 subway brawl or a bilateral issue like the opening of the rice market was making screaming headlines. This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them. That that incident happened on the subway makes it especially credible.

    The only thing about the story that strikes me as odd is a Korean calling a woman a 개새끼.

    I had a scan at the original message thread and a majority of the comments were critical of the Chinese students, but a few dissenters blamed the bangzi.

  14. Gravatar Alejandro Marivosa your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    That one poster is right, though, that most South Koreans secretly are happy the Chinese send Norks back to North Korea.

  15. Gravatar R. Elgin your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    . . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them

    That is not the same. Those were political leftists, not your average college student, thus not the same situation at all.

    I still smell bs since it is obviously baiting a sympathetic response, not to mention the blatant denial of the events that happened during the relay.

  16. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    A couple of your average college students attempted to corner me in Shinchon one evening and a group of your average Korea University students cussed me out one afternoon as I was walking across campus. You think university students can’t be bigoted? Think again. In any case, the fact that she claims to have been called a 개새끼 makes the story suspect.

  17. Gravatar R. Elgin your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 10:24 am | Permalink

    “Sonagi”, why were those guys picking on you anyway? Did they think you were American?

  18. Gravatar cm your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 10:31 am | Permalink

    “. . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them”

    So how did those Koreans find out that “she” was a Chinese? Chinese are an invisible minority, unlike say the Americans, Sonagi. It’s kind of far fetched that Koreans are beating up Chinese people on the streets simply because they look Chinese. So what if they got wangtta’ed for a while and called dirty names. It’ll pass after a week.

  19. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted May 7, 2008 at 10:51 am | Permalink

    @Elgin:

    Yes. I never wore any clothing or gear with US flags or nor was there anything about my appearance, other than my race, to suggest that I might be American. They made derogatory remarks about the US and Americans, so that was obviously the reason for the harassment in the Shinchon incident. On the campus of Kodae, they simply cussed me out in English without mentioning nationality. All I was doing was walking across campus while dressed in a blazer, blouse, knee-length skirt, and pumps. I’m inclined to think xenophobia was the motivation behind the impressive display of English skills.

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