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	<title>Comments on: A Fearful Bit of Trolling &#8212; Chinese Style</title>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152303</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Elgin:

Yes.  I never wore any clothing or gear with US flags or nor was there anything about my appearance, other than my race, to suggest that I might be American.  They made derogatory remarks about the US and Americans, so that was obviously the reason for the harassment in the Shinchon incident.  On the campus of Kodae, they simply cussed me out in English without mentioning nationality. All I was doing was walking across campus while dressed in a blazer, blouse, knee-length skirt, and pumps.  I'm inclined to think xenophobia was the motivation behind the impressive display of English skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Elgin:</p>
<p>Yes.  I never wore any clothing or gear with US flags or nor was there anything about my appearance, other than my race, to suggest that I might be American.  They made derogatory remarks about the US and Americans, so that was obviously the reason for the harassment in the Shinchon incident.  On the campus of Kodae, they simply cussed me out in English without mentioning nationality. All I was doing was walking across campus while dressed in a blazer, blouse, knee-length skirt, and pumps.  I&#8217;m inclined to think xenophobia was the motivation behind the impressive display of English skills.</p>
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		<title>By: cm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152300</link>
		<dc:creator>cm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>". . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them"


So how did those Koreans find out that "she" was a Chinese? Chinese are an invisible minority, unlike say the Americans, Sonagi. It's kind of far fetched  that Koreans are beating up Chinese people on the streets simply because they look Chinese.  So what if they got wangtta'ed for a while and called dirty names. It'll pass after a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;. . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them&#8221;</p>
<p>So how did those Koreans find out that &#8220;she&#8221; was a Chinese? Chinese are an invisible minority, unlike say the Americans, Sonagi. It&#8217;s kind of far fetched  that Koreans are beating up Chinese people on the streets simply because they look Chinese.  So what if they got wangtta&#8217;ed for a while and called dirty names. It&#8217;ll pass after a week.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152298</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 01:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Sonagi", why were those guys picking on you anyway?  Did they think you were American?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sonagi&#8221;, why were those guys picking on you anyway?  Did they think you were American?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152273</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of your average college students attempted to corner me in Shinchon one evening and a group of your average Korea University students cussed me out one afternoon as I was walking across campus. You think university students can't be bigoted?  Think again. In any case, the fact that she claims to have been called a 개새끼 makes the story suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of your average college students attempted to corner me in Shinchon one evening and a group of your average Korea University students cussed me out one afternoon as I was walking across campus. You think university students can&#8217;t be bigoted?  Think again. In any case, the fact that she claims to have been called a 개새끼 makes the story suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152268</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 23:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them&lt;/blockquote&gt;That is not the same.  Those were political leftists, not your average college student, thus not the same situation at all.  

I still smell bs since it is obviously baiting a sympathetic response, not to mention the blatant denial of the events that happened during the relay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>. . . This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them</p></blockquote>
<p>That is not the same.  Those were political leftists, not your average college student, thus not the same situation at all.  </p>
<p>I still smell bs since it is obviously baiting a sympathetic response, not to mention the blatant denial of the events that happened during the relay.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro Marivosa</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152260</link>
		<dc:creator>Alejandro Marivosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That one poster is right, though, that most South Koreans secretly are happy the Chinese send Norks back to North Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That one poster is right, though, that most South Koreans secretly are happy the Chinese send Norks back to North Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that story on a news portal a few days ago; the blogger didn't post any links or otherwise give credit to the source.  

I do not know if the Chinese student's story is true, but it certainly is plausible to any American.  Nearly every single incident of verbal harassment or physical intimidation on account of my nationality while in Korea occurred when a big GI crime story like the 1995 subway brawl or a bilateral issue like the opening of the rice market was making screaming headlines.  This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them.  That that incident happened on the subway makes it especially credible.  

The only thing about the story that strikes me as odd is a Korean calling a woman a 개새끼.

I had a scan at the original message thread and a majority of the comments were critical of the Chinese students, but a few dissenters blamed the &lt;i&gt;bangzi&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that story on a news portal a few days ago; the blogger didn&#8217;t post any links or otherwise give credit to the source.  </p>
<p>I do not know if the Chinese student&#8217;s story is true, but it certainly is plausible to any American.  Nearly every single incident of verbal harassment or physical intimidation on account of my nationality while in Korea occurred when a big GI crime story like the 1995 subway brawl or a bilateral issue like the opening of the rice market was making screaming headlines.  This is a country where a mob out for American blood surrounded a couple of Swiss guys and nearly beat the heck out of them.  That that incident happened on the subway makes it especially credible.  </p>
<p>The only thing about the story that strikes me as odd is a Korean calling a woman a 개새끼.</p>
<p>I had a scan at the original message thread and a majority of the comments were critical of the Chinese students, but a few dissenters blamed the <i>bangzi</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/06/a-fearful-bit-of-trolling-chinese-style/#comment-152239</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#8,

Well, all seems to be back to normal today.  People are generally smart enough to recognize the good in others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#8,</p>
<p>Well, all seems to be back to normal today.  People are generally smart enough to recognize the good in others.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
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		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 15:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious if anyone else here has heard of any real harassment going on.  Having lived here for a fairly long time and having read that imaginative tale that John Kennedy posted about, I am very skeptical that any Chinese are catching anything more than some non-verbal cold shoulder, which is a badly needed educational experience, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious if anyone else here has heard of any real harassment going on.  Having lived here for a fairly long time and having read that imaginative tale that John Kennedy posted about, I am very skeptical that any Chinese are catching anything more than some non-verbal cold shoulder, which is a badly needed educational experience, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronm</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaronm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or raised on a daily buttload of propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or raised on a daily buttload of propaganda.</p>
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