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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Giant Natural Wave&#8221; on the West Coast kills 8 or more</title>
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		<title>By: JohnT</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/05/giant-natural-wave-on-the-west-coast-kills-7-or-8/#comment-152078</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad stuff.</description>
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		<title>By: The Goat</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/05/giant-natural-wave-on-the-west-coast-kills-7-or-8/#comment-152013</link>
		<dc:creator>The Goat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrible accident.  It amazed me to see the footage of the tsunami in Thailand - it really did not look like much coming in at all until it was too late. 

I if it was the same sort of thing that happened here.  By the time they realized the severity, there was very little that they could do about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrible accident.  It amazed me to see the footage of the tsunami in Thailand - it really did not look like much coming in at all until it was too late. </p>
<p>I if it was the same sort of thing that happened here.  By the time they realized the severity, there was very little that they could do about it.</p>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 06:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sanshinseon
Golden mean wouldn't be golden if it was so easy to achieve it :-D

The best way for both ends would be to recognize the problem and fix it... like increasing safety awareness in Korea and decreasing frivolous lawsuits in Western worlds.  Of course, way easier said than done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sanshinseon<br />
Golden mean wouldn&#8217;t be golden if it was so easy to achieve it <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The best way for both ends would be to recognize the problem and fix it&#8230; like increasing safety awareness in Korea and decreasing frivolous lawsuits in Western worlds.  Of course, way easier said than done.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It made today's newspapers -- I now see that it happened at 12:41 pm yesterday (Sunday) afternoon -- jeez, shoulda checked Yonhap before I posted, was too hasty...

Lack of safety-consciousness is always an issue here -- but then people always ridicule what is seen as the over-protectiveness of Western governments and legal systems -- say that we have too many lawsuits over safety and negligence issues, too many silly seeming warnings on labels -- where is the happy medium...?

Does anybody think that the Korean government should forbid all people from being on the West Coast breakwaters at all times, because of the small chance of a rare monster wave coming in...? I wouldn't advocate that.

But more swimming lessons, including in natural moving waters, for all Koreans would be a good thing, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It made today&#8217;s newspapers &#8212; I now see that it happened at 12:41 pm yesterday (Sunday) afternoon &#8212; jeez, shoulda checked Yonhap before I posted, was too hasty&#8230;</p>
<p>Lack of safety-consciousness is always an issue here &#8212; but then people always ridicule what is seen as the over-protectiveness of Western governments and legal systems &#8212; say that we have too many lawsuits over safety and negligence issues, too many silly seeming warnings on labels &#8212; where is the happy medium&#8230;?</p>
<p>Does anybody think that the Korean government should forbid all people from being on the West Coast breakwaters at all times, because of the small chance of a rare monster wave coming in&#8230;? I wouldn&#8217;t advocate that.</p>
<p>But more swimming lessons, including in natural moving waters, for all Koreans would be a good thing, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Railwaycharm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly a sad story. I hope the families can find peace. Signs or no signs, Koreans will perish from their cultural denial of danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is truly a sad story. I hope the families can find peace. Signs or no signs, Koreans will perish from their cultural denial of danger.</p>
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		<title>By: Bipolar Mindscrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bipolar Mindscrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12: Although you're probably right about swimming abilities in Korea; most Westerners get swimming lessons as part of their basic elementary school education (while Koreans get Taekwondo), please check out Wikipedia for "Rogue wave" and "Rip current" which were undoubtable factors in this tragedy.

Being from Nova Scotia, I was always taught to respect how dangerous the ocean can be.  A sign on the Peggys Cove Lighthouse carries the following message in bold letters: "Warning / Injury and death have rewarded careless sight-seers here / The ocean and rocks are treacherous / Savour the sea from a distance."

Despite this warning, many people have died at Peggys Cove.  Tourists, mostly, who thought it was a calm enough day to get closer to the water and were carried out to sea by a rogue wave, never to be seen again...

The ocean is unpredictable and is no discriminator of age or race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12: Although you&#8217;re probably right about swimming abilities in Korea; most Westerners get swimming lessons as part of their basic elementary school education (while Koreans get Taekwondo), please check out Wikipedia for &#8220;Rogue wave&#8221; and &#8220;Rip current&#8221; which were undoubtable factors in this tragedy.</p>
<p>Being from Nova Scotia, I was always taught to respect how dangerous the ocean can be.  A sign on the Peggys Cove Lighthouse carries the following message in bold letters: &#8220;Warning / Injury and death have rewarded careless sight-seers here / The ocean and rocks are treacherous / Savour the sea from a distance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Despite this warning, many people have died at Peggys Cove.  Tourists, mostly, who thought it was a calm enough day to get closer to the water and were carried out to sea by a rogue wave, never to be seen again&#8230;</p>
<p>The ocean is unpredictable and is no discriminator of age or race.</p>
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		<title>By: Someguykorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someguykorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still fewer victims than in 1997 when a flash flood hit what I think was Chiak Mountain.  I believe the death toll was 80 people. The victims had ignored the warning signs and camped along the rivers...during the rain season nonetheless. A couple of Korean (and American I think) soldiers died trying to rescue the people who were stranded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still fewer victims than in 1997 when a flash flood hit what I think was Chiak Mountain.  I believe the death toll was 80 people. The victims had ignored the warning signs and camped along the rivers&#8230;during the rain season nonetheless. A couple of Korean (and American I think) soldiers died trying to rescue the people who were stranded.</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was this at the same beach that hosts the "Boryeong Mud Festival" every summer?  I enjoyed good fun at that event one July...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was this at the same beach that hosts the &#8220;Boryeong Mud Festival&#8221; every summer?  I enjoyed good fun at that event one July&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A simple natural tragedy, looks like now.  RIP to them and comfort to theirs...

OP modified -- I took the "?" off and changed the number, and deleted the "or another anti-Korean plot?" phrase.  It was late at night and my capacities were diminished; I just saw it on the crawl on CNN and rushed to computer, couldn't find anything concrete yet -- then a bit later decided to post here. Did not intend to be snarky or disrespecting the victims -- just didn't know WHAT was going on, "giant killer wave at midnight" report seemed bizarre to me, confusing; was wondering if it was false or a rumor or a earthquake-tsunami or the result of something human-caused outside of Korea... Now all seems clear, and I join the grieving for just another safety-negligent natural-disaster tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple natural tragedy, looks like now.  RIP to them and comfort to theirs&#8230;</p>
<p>OP modified &#8212; I took the &#8220;?&#8221; off and changed the number, and deleted the &#8220;or another anti-Korean plot?&#8221; phrase.  It was late at night and my capacities were diminished; I just saw it on the crawl on CNN and rushed to computer, couldn&#8217;t find anything concrete yet &#8212; then a bit later decided to post here. Did not intend to be snarky or disrespecting the victims &#8212; just didn&#8217;t know WHAT was going on, &#8220;giant killer wave at midnight&#8221; report seemed bizarre to me, confusing; was wondering if it was false or a rumor or a earthquake-tsunami or the result of something human-caused outside of Korea&#8230; Now all seems clear, and I join the grieving for just another safety-negligent natural-disaster tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Baek du Boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baek du Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect to the deceased... I doubt there was "Giant Wave". Until I see photo or some patchy footage from a phone camera.

Drowning is among the highest cause of deaths for Koreans under 20, most can't swim. When a 'large' wave rolls in and too many people or fisherman get caught up they will drown. Certainly no natural disaster. 

Another thing to note is, when something goes wrong in Korea usually death tolls are a lot higher than in western countries... maybe due to the higher population density or lack of awareness, safety standards etc. 

Koreans are not used to seeing large waves, if this happened in Australia I doubt it would be described as 'giant', just a bigger wave in a set a rolled in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect to the deceased&#8230; I doubt there was &#8220;Giant Wave&#8221;. Until I see photo or some patchy footage from a phone camera.</p>
<p>Drowning is among the highest cause of deaths for Koreans under 20, most can&#8217;t swim. When a &#8216;large&#8217; wave rolls in and too many people or fisherman get caught up they will drown. Certainly no natural disaster. </p>
<p>Another thing to note is, when something goes wrong in Korea usually death tolls are a lot higher than in western countries&#8230; maybe due to the higher population density or lack of awareness, safety standards etc. </p>
<p>Koreans are not used to seeing large waves, if this happened in Australia I doubt it would be described as &#8216;giant&#8217;, just a bigger wave in a set a rolled in.</p>
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