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	<title>Comments on: Investigations into Group Sexual Assault Case at Daegu Elementary School</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/01/investigations-into-group-sexual-assault-case-at-daegu-elementary-school/#comment-156759</link>
		<dc:creator>Railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 06:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 I personally have not spent time in the Military but my brothers have, back before the don’t ask, don’t tell era. They both told me stories of when homosexuals were discovered they were quickly ejected or worst. Your story sounds like the KATUSA’s had zero problems with this behavior and it has most likely occurred elsewhere. I guess they did not get the “There are no homosexuals in Korea” memo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 I personally have not spent time in the Military but my brothers have, back before the don’t ask, don’t tell era. They both told me stories of when homosexuals were discovered they were quickly ejected or worst. Your story sounds like the KATUSA’s had zero problems with this behavior and it has most likely occurred elsewhere. I guess they did not get the “There are no homosexuals in Korea” memo.</p>
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		<title>By: Tough Crowd, These Elementary School Kids &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/01/investigations-into-group-sexual-assault-case-at-daegu-elementary-school/#comment-156659</link>
		<dc:creator>Tough Crowd, These Elementary School Kids &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when their not sexually assaulting their classmates, they&#8217;re decking female [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tough Crowd, These Elementary School Kids &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/05/01/investigations-into-group-sexual-assault-case-at-daegu-elementary-school/#comment-156660</link>
		<dc:creator>Tough Crowd, These Elementary School Kids &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when their not sexually assaulting their classmates, they&#8217;re decking female [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 7: Amanda Takes Off&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeoulPodcast &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Episode 7: Amanda Takes Off&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Investigations into Group Sexual Assault Case at Daegu Elementary School  (Marmot) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dong9chin9</title>
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		<dc:creator>dong9chin9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 07:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beiung new to the site I am sorry for any unwitting involvement in said slanderous activity. Does it really constitute a ban?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beiung new to the site I am sorry for any unwitting involvement in said slanderous activity. Does it really constitute a ban?</p>
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		<title>By: Baltimoron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baltimoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 and #24:

I agree with your comments and thank you for either not conveniently extending the "gay" line, and not advocating censorship. Abuse is the issue. I would be interested to know if, when this negligent principal found out about the incidents, how many had happened, and how many if any happened after he had found out. 

#20

If that's the impression, I apologize for misleading. That negligent principal justification is a red herring. However, it also underscores how much laypeople and professionals need to separate sexual customs from abuse. In the end, I'm not responsible for others' fuzzy thinking that could be little more enlightened than that principal's.

I don't believe the children should be punished, but depending on teachers' and the principal's performance, staff need retraining. If more incidents occurred after that principal found out, he should be fired immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 and #24:</p>
<p>I agree with your comments and thank you for either not conveniently extending the &#8220;gay&#8221; line, and not advocating censorship. Abuse is the issue. I would be interested to know if, when this negligent principal found out about the incidents, how many had happened, and how many if any happened after he had found out. </p>
<p>#20</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the impression, I apologize for misleading. That negligent principal justification is a red herring. However, it also underscores how much laypeople and professionals need to separate sexual customs from abuse. In the end, I&#8217;m not responsible for others&#8217; fuzzy thinking that could be little more enlightened than that principal&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the children should be punished, but depending on teachers&#8217; and the principal&#8217;s performance, staff need retraining. If more incidents occurred after that principal found out, he should be fired immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd prefer not to ban commenters, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer not to ban commenters, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still."

Looks like it.  This kind of story is hardly unique to Korea, but considering how hierarchical things are here, even at elementary school level, it isn't surprising that the abuse occured in this fashion.  

How this could go on for years without one person from the school detecting a problem is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like it.  This kind of story is hardly unique to Korea, but considering how hierarchical things are here, even at elementary school level, it isn&#8217;t surprising that the abuse occured in this fashion.  </p>
<p>How this could go on for years without one person from the school detecting a problem is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments are all over the map, and most of them sound absurd.  I don't know where you guys got your sexual education, but it sounds like most of you didn't.

However, I listen to Loveline.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveline)

On that show there are many callers who are the victims of sexual abuse.  On the show, Dr. Phil says over, and over, and over, that children who are victims of sexual abuse often sexually abuse younger children.  This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still.  The original child abusers, I think, would most likely be victims of sexual abuse by adults.  This may have included the adults making the children watch porn on the Internet, maybe as some sort of twisted teaching aid.  

I think its far more likely that an original group of children who were abused by an adult perpetuated the abuse onto younger children, and the cycle was kept alive by some sort of club or organization.  Its not the Internet we should protect children from, it is other adults.

Also, I think the staff of the school was entirely negligent and they should develop a plan where it becomes impossible for elementary school students to go hide somewhere on school grounds long enough to do something like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments are all over the map, and most of them sound absurd.  I don&#8217;t know where you guys got your sexual education, but it sounds like most of you didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>However, I listen to Loveline.</p>
<p>(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveline)</p>
<p>On that show there are many callers who are the victims of sexual abuse.  On the show, Dr. Phil says over, and over, and over, that children who are victims of sexual abuse often sexually abuse younger children.  This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still.  The original child abusers, I think, would most likely be victims of sexual abuse by adults.  This may have included the adults making the children watch porn on the Internet, maybe as some sort of twisted teaching aid.  </p>
<p>I think its far more likely that an original group of children who were abused by an adult perpetuated the abuse onto younger children, and the cycle was kept alive by some sort of club or organization.  Its not the Internet we should protect children from, it is other adults.</p>
<p>Also, I think the staff of the school was entirely negligent and they should develop a plan where it becomes impossible for elementary school students to go hide somewhere on school grounds long enough to do something like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bipolar Mindscrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bipolar Mindscrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 - Pawi (#11) is right.  Mothers sleeping with their children until the kids are full-grown is common outside Western culture... and although we believe it may increase dependence on mommy, has not been shown to do much more... except maybe keep the balls from dropping until much later in life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 - Pawi (#11) is right.  Mothers sleeping with their children until the kids are full-grown is common outside Western culture&#8230; and although we believe it may increase dependence on mommy, has not been shown to do much more&#8230; except maybe keep the balls from dropping until much later in life&#8230;</p>
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