Daegu police say some 19 students are connected to an absolutely horrifying ring of sexual abuse in which elementary school kids re-enacted stuff they’d seen in online porn films.
So far, some five male elementary students have admitted to sexual assault, while another admitted to only some of the charges. Police have also talked to eight third-grade girls named as victims, but only two testify they were assaulted.
Police will also talk to five middle school boys.
These assaults had been going on for several years — senior students would assault junior students, imitating what they’d seen on the Internet. Eventually, the victims became assailants themselves as they preyed on their juniors. Assaults were taking place in public places, too, including the playground.
Terrible stuff.
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…which is why kids shouldn’t be allowed near computers unless they are supervised by a responsible adult.
Link fixed. Thanks for the head’s up.
“…an absolutely horrifying ring of sexual abuse in which elementary school kids re-enacted stuff they’d seen in online porn films.”
This sounds like a recent episode of “Law & Order: SVU”.
http://www.nbc.com/Law_&_O.....x_10.shtml
Anybody have a parent any where in the vacinity ? For God’s sake, who is watching out for the children ?
I think the online porn meme is a useful scapegoat to distract from other culprits. On KBS News this morning, a principal admitted, that he thought boy-on-boy assault was not “sexual” assault, because boys could not have “sex” with each other. That reminds me of KATUSA’s arguing that they were still virgins saving themselves for their girlfriends (who of course were still virgins for them) even if they were poking the roommate each night.
Also, rape is ASSAULT and BATTERY using sex. The sex factor is merely sufficient. It’s violence. Exposure to sex does not lead to violence necessarily. There’s another factor involved here that the media and government are avoiding, and it’s probably related to that principal’s convenient homosexuality. I would look for a violent parent, or other information condoning violence to solve problems.
Also, sex education in ROK is wanting.
The ultimate blame for these horrible acts should rest with the parents. There are so many Internet Protection software applications available with parental controls and internet filtering software that there is really no excuse for allowing children access to porn. Allowing a child unlimited and unmonitored internet access borders on criminal neglect.
Rather than focus on this and placing the blame with the parents, the ROK government will probably blame the porn sites instead and begin another censorship campaign.
I neglected a salient fact above. That principal knew of the assaults, but because he did not consider the actions between the boys to “sexual” assault, because boys cannot have “sex”, he did nothing.
That principal should be fired, and never rehired.
There have been a few sex scandals over the past couple years that have involved children as both victims and perps. The common theme is that the child offenders “feel no guilt whatsoever”. They were just acting out what they saw on a porno. When I hear this, I wonder if it’s just a line, so that Korean society won’t blame the children.
Also, I remember a recent gang rape incident in which the media made sure to identify the porno as “Chinese”. My Korean adult students blamed the Chinese as a result!
5. I blame the teachers for not supervising the yard properly.
4. I blame the parents for allowing their kids unsupervised access to the Internet.
3. I blame the mothers for sleeping with their sons until elementary school (and beyond).
2. I blame Korean society as a whole for “sparing the rod” when it comes to disciplining young boys for terrible crimes.
1. I blame the young boys that KNEW BETTER than to rape their younger male and female classmates. They knew it was wrong!
On KBS News this morning, a principal admitted, that he thought boy-on-boy assault was not “sexual” assault, because boys could not have “sex” with each other.
Ahh, thus reaping what the ‘no homos in hanguk’ meme hath sown!
‘3. I blame the mothers for sleeping with their sons until elementary school (and beyond).’ indignant expat
ain’t it funny the expat is always saying and/or implying the korean guy is gay yet, a gay guy is his biggest enemy? lol!
you couldn’t make this shit up if ya tried, folks. these guys are too funny.
‘i blame koreans!’ name of new number one bestseller amongst expats who get up before noon.
#11,
For once I agree with you.
“That reminds me of KATUSA’s arguing that they were still virgins saving themselves for their girlfriends (who of course were still virgins for them) even if they were poking the roommate each night.”
As if…
#12: I agree. One of the reasons that many Koreans think boys can’t have sex is because many of them genuinely don’t have a clue what gay men get up to together.
#11, #12, #13:
You miss the point!
Sexual assault is an oxymoron. Assault is violence regardless of the bodily locus. That principal stupid opinion about homosexuality was a criminally negligent defense of his inaction. He knew violence was committed but he did nothing because he he ruled out the possibility of SEXUAL assault because boys can’t have sex with boys, when he should have just acted upon evidence of ASSAULT.
The children need to learn that violence is not the way to resolve problems, and the adults need to admit the consequences of their own society’s casual acceptance of male domination and double standards.
If you dispute my evidence of what happened in the barracks, firstly, the KATUSA’s (the dominant ones) openly bragged. Secondly, let’s just say, first I, and others, knocked on doors late at night to tell KATUSAs to scream more softly, and then we just started living in the ville with GFs.
There was another incident, that I’ve told here a long time ago. A squad of KATUSAs approached an American sergeant about their KATUSA conscript sergeant about rape. So, this sergeant invited the soldiers for some beer, pizzas and movies, and told the sergeant, whom he outranked to chill for the weekend. The squad told the sergeant that they had to do extra duties for the KATUSA and if not he hit them and forced them to perform fellatio and often abused them in other ways. They were amazed a sergeant could treat soldiers kindly. After that weekend, the KATUSA sergeant was found in a ditch on the main road beaten and sodomized. The squad was questioned by the KATUSA sergeant-major, but there never was an official response. The squad returned to work, and performed better within the unit than with the sergeant, and nothing was heard of him again.
Again, sex is not necessarily violent, but it often becomes a very effective means of controlling people. Unfortunately, someone has taught these children that lesson.
Age is such an arbitary thing when it comes to criminal law. People can say all they want about children not knowing what they’re doing but that’s hogwash. Yes, some kids ARE as innocent as we’d like to believe them to be…and that’s fine; we should give them a second chance and, hopefully, they turn out to be good citizens.
However, for the most part, I really believe that kids are so much more knowledgeable about sex and violence these days. Of course that does not mean that they fully comprehend the means and consequences involved with it. At the same time though, they definitely know or should know what is right from wrong. I’ll admit I was a very late bloomer both physically and mentally. However, I still knew, as far as I can remember, that sexual assault was wrong, just like murder, robberty, etc.
These kids probably know more than what I ever knew when I was sixteen, especially with the internet (Mind you, I had to type my college apps on a typewriter for crissake). These kids have access to porn 24/7. You can blame the parents, schools, society, etc etc but when you come to think of it, some people are meant to be criminals period.
I know we hold kids to a lower standard when prosecuting, but “kids” are not always kids. Maybe it’s good that we potentially netted a kid who may later turn out to be a serial rapist.
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Though I don’t usually approve of post removal, these constitute defamatory personal attacks.
#14,
So, there are a few gays in the 500 000 Koreans in the ROK Army? So?
As for the sergeant…that’s one guy who was abusive. As you said, the issue is not homosexuality but abuse.
Say what you want, it appears that you’re trying to belittle Korean men by suggesting that they are all gay– not that there’s anything wrong with being gay.
#14,
So, there are a few gays in the 500 000 Koreans in the ROK Army? So?
As for the sergeant…that’s one guy who was abusive. As you said, the issue is not homosexuality but abuse.
Say what you will, it appears that you’re trying to belittle Korean men by suggesting that they are all gay– not that there’s anything wrong with being gay.
#9 – Pawi (#11) is right. Mothers sleeping with their children until the kids are full-grown is common outside Western culture… and although we believe it may increase dependence on mommy, has not been shown to do much more… except maybe keep the balls from dropping until much later in life…
These comments are all over the map, and most of them sound absurd. I don’t know where you guys got your sexual education, but it sounds like most of you didn’t.
However, I listen to Loveline.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loveline)
On that show there are many callers who are the victims of sexual abuse. On the show, Dr. Phil says over, and over, and over, that children who are victims of sexual abuse often sexually abuse younger children. This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still. The original child abusers, I think, would most likely be victims of sexual abuse by adults. This may have included the adults making the children watch porn on the Internet, maybe as some sort of twisted teaching aid.
I think its far more likely that an original group of children who were abused by an adult perpetuated the abuse onto younger children, and the cycle was kept alive by some sort of club or organization. Its not the Internet we should protect children from, it is other adults.
Also, I think the staff of the school was entirely negligent and they should develop a plan where it becomes impossible for elementary school students to go hide somewhere on school grounds long enough to do something like this.
“This is obviously the case here, where older children abused younger children, and in turn they abused younger children still.”
Looks like it. This kind of story is hardly unique to Korea, but considering how hierarchical things are here, even at elementary school level, it isn’t surprising that the abuse occured in this fashion.
How this could go on for years without one person from the school detecting a problem is beyond me.
I’d prefer not to ban commenters, but…
#23 and #24:
I agree with your comments and thank you for either not conveniently extending the “gay” line, and not advocating censorship. Abuse is the issue. I would be interested to know if, when this negligent principal found out about the incidents, how many had happened, and how many if any happened after he had found out.
#20
If that’s the impression, I apologize for misleading. That negligent principal justification is a red herring. However, it also underscores how much laypeople and professionals need to separate sexual customs from abuse. In the end, I’m not responsible for others’ fuzzy thinking that could be little more enlightened than that principal’s.
I don’t believe the children should be punished, but depending on teachers’ and the principal’s performance, staff need retraining. If more incidents occurred after that principal found out, he should be fired immediately.
Beiung new to the site I am sorry for any unwitting involvement in said slanderous activity. Does it really constitute a ban?
#14 I personally have not spent time in the Military but my brothers have, back before the don’t ask, don’t tell era. They both told me stories of when homosexuals were discovered they were quickly ejected or worst. Your story sounds like the KATUSA’s had zero problems with this behavior and it has most likely occurred elsewhere. I guess they did not get the “There are no homosexuals in Korea” memo.
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