When you take out your garbage, be sure to use the correct bag, lest something like this happen to you.
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by Robert Koehler on April 24, 2008
When you take out your garbage, be sure to use the correct bag, lest something like this happen to you.
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Pawi, please come defend these people. Also, explain how ‘the expat’ did wrong here. I admit I’m having trouble seeing how we messed up but I’m totally willing to feel guilty about this just as long as you can figure out how exactly I can do that.
Goddammit mateo, shut the fuck up. If you mention a poster before he has even posted in a thread yet, then you are a fucking ridiculous obsessing lunatic. It’s pitiful. Seriously, do you masturbate thinking about him?
I’m sure he can defend himself just fine, but for my part, I’m tired of seeing people try to pick fights with the same old tired bullshit.
“I was out of town and out of cell phone reach when this happened.”
Very convenient. I would’ve been too.
The expat did do wrong. If I’m not mistaken he/they/whomever took out garbage improperly and left it. They were seen/caught in the act and their actions were wrong.
The actions by those trying to seek justice themselves were certainly wrong as well. Where I live they have CCTV at garbage sites known for improper drop offs.
I don’t want to sound like a typical overly macho douchebag here… But I’m pretty sure that the police that arrived would have been driving me to the station instead of the school for smacking some “bitches” about ten minutes into the situation.
send those cops to afghanistan to really show them how to restore peace and order
Well, this is why you learn the language before you begin living in a foreign country – or you’d better get used to plenty of misunderstandings. And, yes, the lack of a boyfriend/husband leaves single women living alone in Korea vulnerable to harassment, but that’s not much of a secret.
Amen to #7. Let those hapless young women pay their garbage bag fines and the ajeossis face the assault charges they deserve.
“Amen to #7. Let those hapless young women pay their garbage bag fines and the ajeossis face the assault charges they deserve.”
The former might happen, but the latter probably won’t.
Why would the dumb bitches leave their garbage there so they can go and get more? Why not sort it out and then go get the rest? Especially when some guy you can’t understand is pissin’ and moanin’ about the garbage being there.
I saw an apartment ajeossi rip into an ajumma for putting plastics in with the glass. He had a filthy temper. Fortunately they got rid of him and the new guy is much more docile (doesn’t act like I’ve ruined his whole fucking week if I ask him for my parcels).
#1 let me help you. This is what Puwi would say…
“Once again the expat brings their brand of confusion and misery to the greatest country in the world. Do they not know about how the greatest country in the world recycles to keep it so beautiful? How can they live in Korea and not take the time to learn the local customs? We Koreans take the time to learn and follow all local customs when we live and travel abroad but the expat has no such respect for Korea. These ignorant expat women should have been aware of the rules and followed them but since they didn’t an elderly Korean lady had to clean up their mess just like Koreans always must do with dirty expats”.
Sound about right? His same moronic tune isn’t hard to figure out. It’s why he’s become somewhat of a running joke with zero credibility here.
Wow…. if there was ever a country more desperately in need of a large amount of personal firearms, I don’t think I’ve seen it.
Remember folks, an armed society is a polite society.
Er, in which case many didn’t get the memo north of El Rio Grande…
Well, Americans wouldn’t go to France, or Russia, Brazil, or Japan and expect everyone to speak English, but many in Korea seem to have that unrealistic expectation – or at least blame the Koreans for not speaking English. And I very much doubt that illegal Mexican immigrants expect Americans to speak to them in Spanish. The English teacher in the story shares some (not all of course) of the blame, but that’s not how she comes off in her rendition of the story.
It’s so cool when a rant is such a well-worded story. Pity there isn’t video to go with it – would have been a YouTube bestseller. Thanks for the link – very entertaining!!!
#14. Ummmm…Are you kidding me? Americans are one of the most ignorant people in the world (Koreans, admittedly come pretty damn close)! Americans DO go to other countries and expect everyone to speak/understand English. As a Korean-American, I see both BS all the time.
I dont know how it’s done in Japan or other developed Western countries but Korea is damn militant about recycling. I guess it’s a good thing…although I’ve read in many articles that recycling doesnt make too much of a dent for climate change. I guess it does wonders for guilt though. In NYC, where I live, I could take a crap in a ziploc, put it a jar and put that in a cardboard box attached to a dead cat and somebody will take it, no questions asked.
#15
Yeah, in Japan, recycling is damn harsh. You can only throw away certain trash (burnables, non-burnables, bulk) on certain days. This is problematic, especially in the summer, when you have rotten fish or meats in your trash can that have been sitting in 90 degree humidity and b/c you missed your burnable days, the shit stays in your kitchen for a whole week until the next burnable pick up day.
What I used to do is if I missed a collection was take it to the local Family Mart or Daily Store and just throw it away at the trash cans there. Hell, if I bought the stuff from them, they should accept the trash.
One of my good friends from Japan who just moved to the States had the same sentiment as you. She was totally surprised that where she lives (TX), people throw jars, cans, and whatever into the same bin and it will be taken away. I love your example better though..good for laughs. Just wonder how you would be able to deposit a turd in a jar though.
“I dont know how it’s done in Japan or other developed Western countries but Korea is damn militant about recycling. I guess it’s a good thing…although I’ve read in many articles that recycling doesnt make too much of a dent for climate change. I guess it does wonders for guilt though.”
Korea’s recycling was begun in the 1990′s for trash reduction (lack of landfill space) and reusing of resources, not reduction of global warming.
“Wow…. if there was ever a country more desperately in need of a large amount of personal firearms, I don’t think I’ve seen it.”
Korea can be a frustrating place for Koreans and foreigners alike, but adding firearms to the mix would have tragic results.
“Wow…. if there was ever a country more desperately in need of a large amount of personal firearms, I don’t think I’ve seen it.”
“Korea can be a frustrating place for Koreans and foreigners alike, but adding firearms to the mix would have tragic results.”
I would think that people who are living somewhere illegally would try and keep a low profile, but this is now happening daily. And here their violence is directed at each other, but the mayors and businessmen in these border towns are more concerned with making money than protecting their own law abiding, and tax paying, citizens.
http://www.krgv.com/2008/4/24/990274/Sheriff–Deadly-Shooting-Started-as-Fight-over-Woman
#2 said:
That’s the same way I feel about Pawi. I’m tired of hearing him rant about the same old tired bullshit, so I thought I’d cut him off at the pass. And look, he hasn’t posted once in this whole entry!
Mission accomplished.
“Korea’s recycling was begun in the 1990’s for trash reduction (lack of landfill space) and reusing of resources, not reduction of global warming.”
Duh. I’m retarded for not thinking of that right away.
#19 – I was being slightly (okay, more than slightly) facetious in my original comment. Imagine Garbage Ajosshi or Drunk Ajosshi with a gun — pulling one and shooting one of the ladies or (much more likely) shooting himself in the foot and claiming that one of the ladies shot him.
“I dont know how it’s done in Japan or other developed Western countries but Korea is damn militant about recycling.”
Far from it. Recycling is practically just a suggestion here. People throw whatever they want in the trash. In Canada, we get stiff fines if we mix food waste with anything that is remotely recyclable, wet waste with dry waste, if we get a tiny piece of plastic mixed in with the paper waste, if we didn’t separate the lids from the jars (and didn’t wash the jars beforehand).
All you bitches complaining about not knowing the ‘language of garbage’ #4,7,8…go fuck yourselves. The garbage system here is quite arbitrary (Gu/Dong dependent). I’ve had many-a-stand offs with grammas and grandpas in dark allies when I was dropping off me garbage (properly colated by material).
I think the point of that blog entry was that the apartment guy and the neighbor flipped out and became violent, not that the garbage may or may not have been misplaced. Maybe you can make a case for the woman in the entry being careless, but misplacing trash—if she actually did that—hardly warrants a beat down. As “A Year in Mokpo” said, this is a fine example of many things: drunk, violent adjosshis; self-important officials (even if they are only in charge of the parking lot); worthless police; backassward rules and regulations arbitrarily enforced; and racist behavior.
I try to be good with my garbage, and I wish others would take the few seconds required to put garbage in the proper bin. But like the guy above said, it seems completely arbitrary most of the time. I buy the purple bags, but it looks like I’m one of the few in my building who do. I open the dumpster lid and there’s a wide variety of bags and products. Open up the bin for plastics and there’s all kind of bags, boxes, and glass. Hell, a good number of people just lob their trash from the balcony onto the hillside behind the apartment. In spite of the big “do not litter” sign the whole hill is covered in trash.
Ahhhh, Korea: one of the last frontiers. Bring your women and children at their peril, pilgrims.
There are plenty of actual cases of racial and ethnic discrimination against non-Koreans in this country that deserve attention, but aside from the drunk ajussi here, this isn’t one of them. If the girl learns the basic trash system this doesn’t happen.
The average expat excuse: “I don’t learn Korean ‘cos I don’t know how long I’ll be in Korea.” (Then after ten years: “I just never got around to it…”) But the locals are supposed to learn English, or explain things with a pantomime, or put up with the “ignorance of the law” defense whenever one of these people moves in next door? I don’t get that.
On the other hand, had a Korean done the same thing, the reaction would have been a lot less extreme. It’s like the shushing business. I have never seen a Korean shush another Korean on the bus or subway. No matter how loudly the other is shouting into his cell phone/pressing all the funny-sounding buttons on said instrument/cracking gum, etc. But the sound of a foreigner talking foreigner-lish really seems to grate on a lot of these people. I saw a pair of Mongolians shushed by an angry ajosshi on the subway when they were barely audible.
“But the sound of a foreigner talking foreigner-lish really seems to grate on a lot of these people.”
Excessive smiles, laughter, or other expressions of happiness by foreigners can sometimes have a similar result. (Oddly enough, I always remember feeling good whenever I saw recent arrivals to Canada enjoying life in my – and their newly adopted – country!)
One of the women was HIT. Spanish-speaking immigrants do not expect all Americans to speak to them in English (nor did the women in the story although all participants were frustrated by the language barrier), but they don’t expect to be HIT, either, for throwing away garbage improperly or committing some other minor infraction. If a man hit me for whatever reason, I’d be upset, too. A language barrier is a piss-poor excuse to get violent.
“Why would the dumb bitches leave their garbage there so they can go and get more? Why not sort it out and then go get the rest?”
Yeah, I had the same thought.
Agree with #10
If you know you’re going to need multiple bags to handle all your trash and recyclables, why not open each of the necessary bags and fill them as you clean? Makes a lot more sense than randomly stuffing them with all your crap and then leaving them out in the street — where no one knows that you’re coming back to sort them later. While the situation did grow to an absurd level, the girls brought it on themselves by not thinking about their actions in advance. Sort it in advance and avoid the problem altogether!
OK, didn’t see the part about hitting – of course that’s always out of bounds.
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