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	<title>Comments on: More Mongolians Take Korean Test than TOEFL</title>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-150080</link>
		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29, But how many citizens of Mongolia (Outer Mongolia) are there in China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29, But how many citizens of Mongolia (Outer Mongolia) are there in China?</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-150039</link>
		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does anyone know how many Mongolian citizens reside in the People’s Republic of China?&lt;/blockquote&gt; Wikipedia knows at least about the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Mongolia#Demography" rel="nofollow"&gt;number of Mongols in Inner Mongolia&lt;/a&gt;. At close to 4 million Mongols, I'm pretty sure that number is quite a bit more than the Mongols in .kr... And a million more than in the Rep. of Mongolia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does anyone know how many Mongolian citizens reside in the People’s Republic of China?</p></blockquote>
<p> Wikipedia knows at least about the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Mongolia#Demography" rel="nofollow">number of Mongols in Inner Mongolia</a>. At close to 4 million Mongols, I&#8217;m pretty sure that number is quite a bit more than the Mongols in .kr&#8230; And a million more than in the Rep. of Mongolia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149964</link>
		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Hell Mongolia doesn’t even have the largest number of Mongolians. There are actually twice as many Mongolians living in China than there are in Mongolia."

By "Mongolia" you mean just '&lt;i&gt;Outer&lt;/i&gt; Mongolia', right? China occupies the southern portion of Mongolia, which they call &lt;i&gt;Inner&lt;/i&gt; Mongolia.

About one-third of ethnic Mongols in the People's Republic of China live outside Inner Mongolia, so even if the two Mongolias are considered as one, Jing would be right that China still has the largest number of ethnic Mongols, but not that there are twice as many Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia. 

If we only consider citizens of Mongolia, Pawi may be right about Korea having the highest number. Does anyone know how many Mongolian citizens reside in the People's Republic of China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hell Mongolia doesn’t even have the largest number of Mongolians. There are actually twice as many Mongolians living in China than there are in Mongolia.&#8221;</p>
<p>By &#8220;Mongolia&#8221; you mean just &#8216;<i>Outer</i> Mongolia&#8217;, right? China occupies the southern portion of Mongolia, which they call <i>Inner</i> Mongolia.</p>
<p>About one-third of ethnic Mongols in the People&#8217;s Republic of China live outside Inner Mongolia, so even if the two Mongolias are considered as one, Jing would be right that China still has the largest number of ethnic Mongols, but not that there are twice as many Mongols living in China than there are in Mongolia. </p>
<p>If we only consider citizens of Mongolia, Pawi may be right about Korea having the highest number. Does anyone know how many Mongolian citizens reside in the People&#8217;s Republic of China?</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149961</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Hell Mongolia doesn’t even have the largest number of Mongolians. "

Yeah,for the same reasons there are more Tibetans living in China
than the outside.

I thought the biggest Mongolian cultural legacy was the frequent use
of meat in Korean cuisine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hell Mongolia doesn’t even have the largest number of Mongolians. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah,for the same reasons there are more Tibetans living in China<br />
than the outside.</p>
<p>I thought the biggest Mongolian cultural legacy was the frequent use<br />
of meat in Korean cuisine.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
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		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is true that Mongols and/or Mongol supporters in Koryo tried to make changes within Koryo society.

Other contributions to Koryo by the Mongols would be the black pig of Jeju and maybe even the Jejudo dog.  I think woman's hair styles were also influenced by the mongols.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is true that Mongols and/or Mongol supporters in Koryo tried to make changes within Koryo society.</p>
<p>Other contributions to Koryo by the Mongols would be the black pig of Jeju and maybe even the Jejudo dog.  I think woman&#8217;s hair styles were also influenced by the mongols.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149946</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that while the Mongols deposed several Koryu kings in an attempt to shape Korean affairs, their efforts to reshape Koryu society were thwarted.  For instance, the Mongols failed to abolish Koryu's system of inherited slavery, up to 30% of the population.  One of the Mongols legacies in Korea are the small, hardy horses (Jorang ponies) they left behind in Cheju Do, whose lush meadows were used by the Mongols for horse breeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that while the Mongols deposed several Koryu kings in an attempt to shape Korean affairs, their efforts to reshape Koryu society were thwarted.  For instance, the Mongols failed to abolish Koryu&#8217;s system of inherited slavery, up to 30% of the population.  One of the Mongols legacies in Korea are the small, hardy horses (Jorang ponies) they left behind in Cheju Do, whose lush meadows were used by the Mongols for horse breeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pawi, Korea isn't the country with the largest Mongolian population outside of Mongolia. Hell Mongolia doesn't even have the largest number of Mongolians. There are actually twice as many Mongolians living in China than there are in Mongolia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pawi, Korea isn&#8217;t the country with the largest Mongolian population outside of Mongolia. Hell Mongolia doesn&#8217;t even have the largest number of Mongolians. There are actually twice as many Mongolians living in China than there are in Mongolia.</p>
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		<title>By: Aceface</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149924</link>
		<dc:creator>Aceface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”if all the koreans had was the midget invasion of imjin, i don’t think koreans would feel the way some do today.”

"Mongol" invasions of Japaｎ of 1274 and 1281 were conducted under repeated requests from Chungnyeol of Goryeo to Kublai Khan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”if all the koreans had was the midget invasion of imjin, i don’t think koreans would feel the way some do today.”</p>
<p>&#8220;Mongol&#8221; invasions of Japaｎ of 1274 and 1281 were conducted under repeated requests from Chungnyeol of Goryeo to Kublai Khan.</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149911</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'harp on japan.' 

japan's occupation of korea remains a living memory. the occupation of korea by the mongols was so very long ago. 

if all the koreans had was the midget invasion of imjin, i don't think koreans would feel the way some do today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;harp on japan.&#8217; </p>
<p>japan&#8217;s occupation of korea remains a living memory. the occupation of korea by the mongols was so very long ago. </p>
<p>if all the koreans had was the midget invasion of imjin, i don&#8217;t think koreans would feel the way some do today.</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/24/more-mongolians-take-korean-test-than-toefl/#comment-149907</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'After just a couple of generations of this, the Koreans in the Koryo court weren’t really “Korean” at all, they were in fact Mongol. They spoke Mongolian and dressed like Mongolians. From what I have read they could barely, if at all, converse in Korean.'

this makes me wonder, where is the stamp of the mongols on korea? i understand that the female korean dress is based on mongol design but it's hard for me to see it. that's because the mongol costumes i've seen so far don't look like korean ones. 

perhaps the mongol footprint exists within korea's arts but i don't see that there. 

does it exists in the language? i don't know.

wanggon, i heard kbs is going to put out 'wang kon' on dvd so i'm just waiting. i hear it's a masterpiece of korean sa guk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;After just a couple of generations of this, the Koreans in the Koryo court weren’t really “Korean” at all, they were in fact Mongol. They spoke Mongolian and dressed like Mongolians. From what I have read they could barely, if at all, converse in Korean.&#8217;</p>
<p>this makes me wonder, where is the stamp of the mongols on korea? i understand that the female korean dress is based on mongol design but it&#8217;s hard for me to see it. that&#8217;s because the mongol costumes i&#8217;ve seen so far don&#8217;t look like korean ones. </p>
<p>perhaps the mongol footprint exists within korea&#8217;s arts but i don&#8217;t see that there. </p>
<p>does it exists in the language? i don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>wanggon, i heard kbs is going to put out &#8216;wang kon&#8217; on dvd so i&#8217;m just waiting. i hear it&#8217;s a masterpiece of korean sa guk.</p>
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