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	<title>Comments on: Kiwiland Must be a Rough Place</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hoidyandtoiny</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149180</link>
		<dc:creator>hoidyandtoiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"....a conservative Asian culture..." 

They're STILL saying this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.a conservative Asian culture&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>They&#8217;re STILL saying this?</p>
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		<title>By: nambangui horangi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149164</link>
		<dc:creator>nambangui horangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. Well, it must be random somehow: I get 4 stars in 36 and 38, but the post just above gets 5 on the flag....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Well, it must be random somehow: I get 4 stars in 36 and 38, but the post just above gets 5 on the flag&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nambangui horangi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149162</link>
		<dc:creator>nambangui horangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 and #61 - I know the flags are small and that it's occasionally random, but take another look. At least as it appears to me, the server seems to have me right: the Southern Cross alone. I promise you that I'm writing from Wellington. Cf. Hoju saram's with the extra star. The one that looks off to my eyes belongs to Rothkowitz, #35 (Looks to me to have 5 stars, but he writes that he's in NZ).

#40 - don't know if you understood my "here" to be Korea? I meant NZ. I'm aware of several similar incidents to the one discussed here in Korea, but have not seen any too close to it in NZ. There have been other sorts of group drubbings, however, usually among guys, and some even put up on YouTube (there was a story like that here--i.e. NZ--last month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 and #61 - I know the flags are small and that it&#8217;s occasionally random, but take another look. At least as it appears to me, the server seems to have me right: the Southern Cross alone. I promise you that I&#8217;m writing from Wellington. Cf. Hoju saram&#8217;s with the extra star. The one that looks off to my eyes belongs to Rothkowitz, #35 (Looks to me to have 5 stars, but he writes that he&#8217;s in NZ).</p>
<p>#40 - don&#8217;t know if you understood my &#8220;here&#8221; to be Korea? I meant NZ. I&#8217;m aware of several similar incidents to the one discussed here in Korea, but have not seen any too close to it in NZ. There have been other sorts of group drubbings, however, usually among guys, and some even put up on YouTube (there was a story like that here&#8211;i.e. NZ&#8211;last month.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149147</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming Korean culture is almost as stupid as blaming NZ culture.  I say "almost" because the girls are Korean.  However, this sort of group violence is a problem in many, many countries.  American educators have been talking for years about the rise of violence among girls.  Just last week, a very similar story appeared in the US about six girls charged as adults after recording with their cellphones a beating of a classmate who was a rival for the affection of a boy.  The group planned to post the video to Youtube.  

I don't imagine there are too many countries on this earth where bullies don't exist or where young people don't fight with love rivals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming Korean culture is almost as stupid as blaming NZ culture.  I say &#8220;almost&#8221; because the girls are Korean.  However, this sort of group violence is a problem in many, many countries.  American educators have been talking for years about the rise of violence among girls.  Just last week, a very similar story appeared in the US about six girls charged as adults after recording with their cellphones a beating of a classmate who was a rival for the affection of a boy.  The group planned to post the video to Youtube.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t imagine there are too many countries on this earth where bullies don&#8217;t exist or where young people don&#8217;t fight with love rivals.</p>
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		<title>By: bulgasari</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149139</link>
		<dc:creator>bulgasari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40
&lt;em&gt;One incident that caused quite a scandal a few years back was very similar to the case in New Zealand.&lt;/em&gt;

I imagine you mean this one:

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504210014.html

This one from December 2006 sounds very similar to the NZ attack, but they used cellphone cameras instead of cigarettes as weapons.

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2862242

Blaming it on transitional difficulties or the 'openness' of NZ society seems to overlook the fact that such behavior on the part of the girls is not uncommon in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40<br />
<em>One incident that caused quite a scandal a few years back was very similar to the case in New Zealand.</em></p>
<p>I imagine you mean this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504210014.html" rel="nofollow">http://english.chosun.com/w21d.....10014.html</a></p>
<p>This one from December 2006 sounds very similar to the NZ attack, but they used cellphone cameras instead of cigarettes as weapons.</p>
<p><a href="http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2862242" rel="nofollow">http://joongangdaily.joins.com.....id=2862242</a></p>
<p>Blaming it on transitional difficulties or the &#8216;openness&#8217; of NZ society seems to overlook the fact that such behavior on the part of the girls is not uncommon in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: roboseyo</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149127</link>
		<dc:creator>roboseyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a monkey on a typewriter decides which flag goes next to which name.  I'm not from the Oz, either, but I get that one beside my name sometimes, too.  Maybe it's the same AI system that scores your performance after singing in the noraebang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a monkey on a typewriter decides which flag goes next to which name.  I&#8217;m not from the Oz, either, but I get that one beside my name sometimes, too.  Maybe it&#8217;s the same AI system that scores your performance after singing in the noraebang.</p>
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		<title>By: swlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>swlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"guess I’m the first person to weigh in from on the ground in NZ. What is striking is as #14 suggests the lack of play the story is getting here. I’ve seen one story here on the web and nothing in the major Wellington paper."

Then why does your ID have an Australian flag next to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;guess I’m the first person to weigh in from on the ground in NZ. What is striking is as #14 suggests the lack of play the story is getting here. I’ve seen one story here on the web and nothing in the major Wellington paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why does your ID have an Australian flag next to it?</p>
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		<title>By: maekchu</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149111</link>
		<dc:creator>maekchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Korean g-friend says this type of thing is common in Korea during middle school and early high school.  She said the same thing happened where she went to school several times between rival cliques with the results usually being some kicking, punching and cutting the hair.

These girls were just sharing their culture with NZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Korean g-friend says this type of thing is common in Korea during middle school and early high school.  She said the same thing happened where she went to school several times between rival cliques with the results usually being some kicking, punching and cutting the hair.</p>
<p>These girls were just sharing their culture with NZ.</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149083</link>
		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on # 54. Nothing else to add, you said it all.

on the side....

Why does anyone read what Pawi writes ? If he was actually as stupid as he sounds, he wouldn't have the where-with-all to figure out how to turn his computer on. 

You gotta believe he is a chain wanker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on # 54. Nothing else to add, you said it all.</p>
<p>on the side&#8230;.</p>
<p>Why does anyone read what Pawi writes ? If he was actually as stupid as he sounds, he wouldn&#8217;t have the where-with-all to figure out how to turn his computer on. </p>
<p>You gotta believe he is a chain wanker.</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/kiwiland-must-be-a-rough-place/#comment-149080</link>
		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do they let kids into the DVD bang?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do they let kids into the DVD bang?</p>
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