Comments on: A Night in the Life of an Itaewon Juicy Girl http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/ Korea... in Blog Format Wed, 8 Oct 2008 06:21:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148986 SomeguyinKorea Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:50:28 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148986 #19, It's very likely that these girls are lying to one another in order to discourage the competition. #19,

It’s very likely that these girls are lying to one another in order to discourage the competition.

]]> By: Pubman http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148958 Pubman Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:12:08 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148958 GBI, Would agree, but today's young reporters are products of an education system during a "nationalistic /xenophobic/juche loving era" Look at the Korean military cadets story here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/04/116_22029.html GBI,
Would agree, but today’s young reporters are products of an education system during a “nationalistic /xenophobic/juche loving era” Look at the Korean military cadets story here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/ww.....22029.html

]]> By: globalvillageidiot http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148956 globalvillageidiot Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:00:48 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148956 "Here is the legacy of the Roh Moo Hyun nationalistic /xenophobic/juche loving era." I was here during the KYS era. It was more close minded than it is now. These kind of stories in the media defy the ideological flavor of whatever government is in power. Actually, I'd have to say that racism/ethnocentricism - at least from the perspective of a guy with a Korean wife and kid - has improved over the last ten years. Roh was an inept president, but he sure as hell didn't invent media hatred of foreigners. “Here is the legacy of the Roh Moo Hyun nationalistic /xenophobic/juche loving era.”

I was here during the KYS era. It was more close minded than it is now. These kind of stories in the media defy the ideological flavor of whatever government is in power. Actually, I’d have to say that racism/ethnocentricism - at least from the perspective of a guy with a Korean wife and kid - has improved over the last ten years. Roh was an inept president, but he sure as hell didn’t invent media hatred of foreigners.

]]> By: Sonagi http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148947 Sonagi Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:05:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148947 <blockquote>Hmm…3.5 million on a good night. Let’s see, a bad night is 2 million…she works 4 days a week…4 x 2.0 mil = 8 mil/week; 8 x 4 weeks = 32 mil/month (conservative); 12 x 32 mil= 384 million a year. Yep, that makes sense. Nothing sensational here. The numbers add up.</blockquote> Bingo. Yet another sensationalist story with dubious details.

Hmm…3.5 million on a good night. Let’s see, a bad night is 2 million…she works 4 days a week…4 x 2.0 mil = 8 mil/week; 8 x 4 weeks = 32 mil/month (conservative); 12 x 32 mil= 384 million a year.

Yep, that makes sense. Nothing sensational here. The numbers add up.

Bingo. Yet another sensationalist story with dubious details.

]]> By: Netizen Kim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148945 Netizen Kim Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:56:17 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148945 "Bad Guy" not "Bad Boy", typo. “Bad Guy” not “Bad Boy”, typo.

]]> By: Netizen Kim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148944 Netizen Kim Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:54:55 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148944 <i>I’m curious though. Do Korean news journals do similar exposes of room salons and room bangs that cater primarily to non-Koreans?</i> Not just news journals but dramatically depicted in Korean movies as well. Kim Ki Duk's "Bad Boy" is a prime example. I’m curious though. Do Korean news journals do similar exposes of room salons and room bangs that cater primarily to non-Koreans?

Not just news journals but dramatically depicted in Korean movies as well. Kim Ki Duk’s “Bad Boy” is a prime example.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148941 WangKon936 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:41:33 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148941 "I, actually having read the “undercover” article, and noting the fact that it was written by a woman, realize that the central issue is more about sexism (from the feminist perspective) than anything else." I'm curious though. Do Korean news journals do similar exposes of room salons and room bangs that cater primarily to non-Koreans? “I, actually having read the “undercover” article, and noting the fact that it was written by a woman, realize that the central issue is more about sexism (from the feminist perspective) than anything else.”

I’m curious though. Do Korean news journals do similar exposes of room salons and room bangs that cater primarily to non-Koreans?

]]> By: Netizen Kim http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148940 Netizen Kim Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:25:02 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148940 <i>I have to agree with some of the commentors here that the article does seem to dive a little too much into the physical description of the foreigners a bit too much. Gives it the feeling that foreigners are being profiled in a sense. Can’t imagine that being a good feeling if you are one of the said foreigners.</i> Since we're discussing "foreigners-only" establishments here, in order for the expat to play his hackneyed nationalism/xenophobia/racism card, he imagines evidence of such, where in fact there is none, in the article itself, which is supposed to be yet another "blatantly racist and anti-waeguk" example of yellow journalism. I, actually having read the "undercover" article, and noting the fact that it was written by a woman, realize that the central issue is more about sexism (from the feminist perspective) than anything else. I have to agree with some of the commentors here that the article does seem to dive a little too much into the physical description of the foreigners a bit too much. Gives it the feeling that foreigners are being profiled in a sense.

Can’t imagine that being a good feeling if you are one of the said foreigners.

Since we’re discussing “foreigners-only” establishments here, in order for the expat to play his hackneyed nationalism/xenophobia/racism card, he imagines evidence of such, where in fact there is none, in the article itself, which is supposed to be yet another “blatantly racist and anti-waeguk” example of yellow journalism.

I, actually having read the “undercover” article, and noting the fact that it was written by a woman, realize that the central issue is more about sexism (from the feminist perspective) than anything else.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148923 WangKon936 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:51:33 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148923 I have to agree with some of the commentors here that the article does seem to dive a little too much into the physical description of the foreigners a bit too much. Gives it the feeling that foreigners are being profiled in a sense. Can't imagine that being a good feeling if you are one of the said foreigners. I have to agree with some of the commentors here that the article does seem to dive a little too much into the physical description of the foreigners a bit too much. Gives it the feeling that foreigners are being profiled in a sense.

Can’t imagine that being a good feeling if you are one of the said foreigners.

]]> By: WangKon936 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148921 WangKon936 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:30:33 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/21/a-night-in-the-life-of-an-itaewon-juicy-girl/#comment-148921 I don't know if many know this, but the concept of the "Juicey Bar" also exists here in the states. A friend of mine took me to this one bar in a more seedier parts of central Orange County and it was a sports bar catering to mostly middle aged, blue collar men. Same concept. You buy 20 something, scantily clad girls drinks (including alchy and non-alchy) and they talk to you, a little fondling to boot. It's not for me, I only went twice during the Laker's playoffs. It was A LOT cheaper though. Jack & Coke was like $5 and you tip them whatever you want. Obviously the bigger tippers get more time with the gals. I'm not saying it's just as wide spread in the U.S. as it is in Korea, I'm not exactly a connoisseur of the stuff. I don’t know if many know this, but the concept of the “Juicey Bar” also exists here in the states. A friend of mine took me to this one bar in a more seedier parts of central Orange County and it was a sports bar catering to mostly middle aged, blue collar men.

Same concept. You buy 20 something, scantily clad girls drinks (including alchy and non-alchy) and they talk to you, a little fondling to boot. It’s not for me, I only went twice during the Laker’s playoffs. It was A LOT cheaper though. Jack & Coke was like $5 and you tip them whatever you want. Obviously the bigger tippers get more time with the gals.

I’m not saying it’s just as wide spread in the U.S. as it is in Korea, I’m not exactly a connoisseur of the stuff.

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