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		<title>By: Railwaycharm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-149177</link>
		<dc:creator>Railwaycharm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70. Yeah all world class cities allow motorcycles to drive on their sidewalks. Pawi, you are a wanker extraordinaire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#70. Yeah all world class cities allow motorcycles to drive on their sidewalks. Pawi, you are a wanker extraordinaire.</p>
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		<title>By: Iceberg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-149170</link>
		<dc:creator>Iceberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unintentional comedy is always the most delicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unintentional comedy is always the most delicious.</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-149148</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blue:

had she written lines like the following, i would have been suspicious:

1. seoul- paris of asia
2. korean palaces on par with forbidden city
3. your next trip should be seoul

but she didn't wrtie things like that. indeed, she wrote about something people actually think about. i'm sure more than a few people wondered about bathrooms in seoul when going there for whatever reason. i think it's good to know there's good shit holes in korea! 

and don't think for a moment i believe you hate korea or koreans. you make me laugh, blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blue:</p>
<p>had she written lines like the following, i would have been suspicious:</p>
<p>1. seoul- paris of asia<br />
2. korean palaces on par with forbidden city<br />
3. your next trip should be seoul</p>
<p>but she didn&#8217;t wrtie things like that. indeed, she wrote about something people actually think about. i&#8217;m sure more than a few people wondered about bathrooms in seoul when going there for whatever reason. i think it&#8217;s good to know there&#8217;s good shit holes in korea! </p>
<p>and don&#8217;t think for a moment i believe you hate korea or koreans. you make me laugh, blue.</p>
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		<title>By: iheartblueballs</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148951</link>
		<dc:creator>iheartblueballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies to Ms. Gordon.  She has confirmed via email that she is not part of the Seoul Metropolitan Government's program.  That small chance I mentioned above came through.  She says that "The AJC policy is not to accept money/services of any kind for travel stories."

Good for her, good for the AJC, bad on me for jumping the gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies to Ms. Gordon.  She has confirmed via email that she is not part of the Seoul Metropolitan Government&#8217;s program.  That small chance I mentioned above came through.  She says that &#8220;The AJC policy is not to accept money/services of any kind for travel stories.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good for her, good for the AJC, bad on me for jumping the gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148946</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So I guess the question is how do we attract more skilled immigrants and how do we keep out the unskilled ones?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The failed immigration reform planned to introduce a point system and put restrictions on family visas.  This went over like a lead balloon among constituencies with large immigrant populations.  We need a point system like the ones used in Australia and Canada, which weigh education, language proficiency, age, and family ties. Politically, it probably won't happen.  The Hispanic Caucus is refusing to support badly needed emergency guest worker visas because it wants to use them as a bargaining tool to get a liberal immigration bill passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So I guess the question is how do we attract more skilled immigrants and how do we keep out the unskilled ones?</p></blockquote>
<p>The failed immigration reform planned to introduce a point system and put restrictions on family visas.  This went over like a lead balloon among constituencies with large immigrant populations.  We need a point system like the ones used in Australia and Canada, which weigh education, language proficiency, age, and family ties. Politically, it probably won&#8217;t happen.  The Hispanic Caucus is refusing to support badly needed emergency guest worker visas because it wants to use them as a bargaining tool to get a liberal immigration bill passed.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148937</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty's puff pieces are all in the travel section, a department that (at lesser papers at least) is lss fussy on "pay for play" policies. Seoul perhaps got their money's worth here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty&#8217;s puff pieces are all in the travel section, a department that (at lesser papers at least) is lss fussy on &#8220;pay for play&#8221; policies. Seoul perhaps got their money&#8217;s worth here.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148931</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who still think that immigration is bad for the U.S:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-immiglabor21apr21,0,4195567.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel

Someone's gotta take up the slack when the baby boomers retire.

So I guess the question is how do we attract more skilled immigrants and how do we keep out the unskilled ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who still think that immigration is bad for the U.S:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-immiglabor21apr21,0,4195567.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/lo.....storylevel</a></p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s gotta take up the slack when the baby boomers retire.</p>
<p>So I guess the question is how do we attract more skilled immigrants and how do we keep out the unskilled ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Sperwer</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148828</link>
		<dc:creator>Sperwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;seoul is becoming world class, folks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah, world-class also ran backwater</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>seoul is becoming world class, folks</p></blockquote>
<p>yeah, world-class also ran backwater</p>
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		<title>By: iheartblueballs</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/19/open-thread-47/#comment-148824</link>
		<dc:creator>iheartblueballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you're going to bite at my ankles stacked, at least make it interesting and/or vicious. 

There are about 10-15 commenters on this blog worth reading, and since this is the first time I recall ever seeing your handle, you're obviously not one of them.  I've got cum-stains on my keyboard more insightful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re going to bite at my ankles stacked, at least make it interesting and/or vicious. </p>
<p>There are about 10-15 commenters on this blog worth reading, and since this is the first time I recall ever seeing your handle, you&#8217;re obviously not one of them.  I&#8217;ve got cum-stains on my keyboard more insightful.</p>
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		<title>By: iheartblueballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>iheartblueballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's part of your problem pawi.  You can't differentiate satire and sarcasm from "anti-Korean."  My list was mocking the blatant propoganda apparent in the "sample story ideas" on the journalist application by showing the flip side to the attempted story plants.

I said previously I don't blame Seoul tourism officials for trying to promote the city.  But they can be blamed for going about it in such a ham-handed manner.  They're not only offering up blank checks, but the sample story ideas make it pretty clear that they're not looking for journalists to cover the city, warts and all.  They're offering free trips in a quid pro quo for tourism advertisements that shine a bright light on the sparkle.

The other reason I thought it was funny was because the paper in question is the Atlanta Journal Constitution (not the Atlantic Journal as you keep referring to it).  Atlanta is made up of about 60% black, 35% redneck, and 5% other, of which maybe 2-3% is Asian.  So at minimum 95% of the people that open up that paper have absolutely zero interest in how clean the toilets of Seoul are.  It's just a ludicrous article considering all factors involved.

Given that, and the timing of the series of articles on Seoul in that paper just happen to fall in line with the stated first round of journalist tours, it seems pretty likely that Betty Gordon is serving up grade A advertisements for the City of Seoul in exchange for an all-expenses paid vacation.  With the current budget tightening occuring at most major papers, I'm guessing her editor saw it as a cheap and easy way to get some international coverage without the AJC spending a dime.  Either that, or they just don't give a shit at the AJC about pay for play stories.  And knowing what I know about Atlanta, it's probably the latter.  Regardless, it just looks bad for everyone involved.  

Of course there's a very small chance that she's on assignment from the paper and is not being wined and dined by Seoul, but given the timing, and that she's filing numerous stories and they're all sparkly in nature, it seems unlikely.  I can't imagine a budget meeting at the AJC convening by someone saying "Okay, so $6000 goes to Betty for her expose on Korean toilets...cut the check, and cancel the investigation on abuse at that orphanage in Decatur."

Surely pawi, you can recognize a fix when you see one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s part of your problem pawi.  You can&#8217;t differentiate satire and sarcasm from &#8220;anti-Korean.&#8221;  My list was mocking the blatant propoganda apparent in the &#8220;sample story ideas&#8221; on the journalist application by showing the flip side to the attempted story plants.</p>
<p>I said previously I don&#8217;t blame Seoul tourism officials for trying to promote the city.  But they can be blamed for going about it in such a ham-handed manner.  They&#8217;re not only offering up blank checks, but the sample story ideas make it pretty clear that they&#8217;re not looking for journalists to cover the city, warts and all.  They&#8217;re offering free trips in a quid pro quo for tourism advertisements that shine a bright light on the sparkle.</p>
<p>The other reason I thought it was funny was because the paper in question is the Atlanta Journal Constitution (not the Atlantic Journal as you keep referring to it).  Atlanta is made up of about 60% black, 35% redneck, and 5% other, of which maybe 2-3% is Asian.  So at minimum 95% of the people that open up that paper have absolutely zero interest in how clean the toilets of Seoul are.  It&#8217;s just a ludicrous article considering all factors involved.</p>
<p>Given that, and the timing of the series of articles on Seoul in that paper just happen to fall in line with the stated first round of journalist tours, it seems pretty likely that Betty Gordon is serving up grade A advertisements for the City of Seoul in exchange for an all-expenses paid vacation.  With the current budget tightening occuring at most major papers, I&#8217;m guessing her editor saw it as a cheap and easy way to get some international coverage without the AJC spending a dime.  Either that, or they just don&#8217;t give a shit at the AJC about pay for play stories.  And knowing what I know about Atlanta, it&#8217;s probably the latter.  Regardless, it just looks bad for everyone involved.  </p>
<p>Of course there&#8217;s a very small chance that she&#8217;s on assignment from the paper and is not being wined and dined by Seoul, but given the timing, and that she&#8217;s filing numerous stories and they&#8217;re all sparkly in nature, it seems unlikely.  I can&#8217;t imagine a budget meeting at the AJC convening by someone saying &#8220;Okay, so $6000 goes to Betty for her expose on Korean toilets&#8230;cut the check, and cancel the investigation on abuse at that orphanage in Decatur.&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely pawi, you can recognize a fix when you see one.</p>
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