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	<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: arthjm</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/11/astronaut-inspires-central-asia-koreans/#comment-147155</link>
		<dc:creator>arthjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#39, True, but I think if one decides their role model from said movie, they'll need more than Soyeon's help.

#40, Easy their pardner, I hope English ain't your first language 'cause that's some terrible reading comprehension, and it's quite awful if I have to point that out.  I'm guessing you too have got a melon head eh, though considering your hostility, I'm guessing you consider that a bad thing.  Odd, since Koreans consider it a sign of intelligence, too bad you haven't shown it.  You've made some assumptions on my accomplishments without even knowing me, I've neither questioned hers or yours.  It's amusing and interesting that among the comments you'd spaz out over as negating her accomplishments, from space tourist and what not, you'd choose a comment from me about her head (which can also be a compliment) to make your assumptions...I'd say between you and me, you'd be the more superficial.  

I was simply saying that I don't see why she should be a role model, I don't doubt that she's worked hard at all (never have or alluded to this either), but I've actually witnessed the times when many ajumma's (and ajossi's) worked tooth and nail for scraps of food and education in a wasteland, and so simply working hard (in nice sanitary conditions no less!) does not place her over as a role model.  Though, between some movie character that robo mentioned and Soyeon, the latter would be a better choice, but c'mon, those aren't the only people that females these days know of :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#39, True, but I think if one decides their role model from said movie, they&#8217;ll need more than Soyeon&#8217;s help.</p>
<p>#40, Easy their pardner, I hope English ain&#8217;t your first language &#8217;cause that&#8217;s some terrible reading comprehension, and it&#8217;s quite awful if I have to point that out.  I&#8217;m guessing you too have got a melon head eh, though considering your hostility, I&#8217;m guessing you consider that a bad thing.  Odd, since Koreans consider it a sign of intelligence, too bad you haven&#8217;t shown it.  You&#8217;ve made some assumptions on my accomplishments without even knowing me, I&#8217;ve neither questioned hers or yours.  It&#8217;s amusing and interesting that among the comments you&#8217;d spaz out over as negating her accomplishments, from space tourist and what not, you&#8217;d choose a comment from me about her head (which can also be a compliment) to make your assumptions&#8230;I&#8217;d say between you and me, you&#8217;d be the more superficial.  </p>
<p>I was simply saying that I don&#8217;t see why she should be a role model, I don&#8217;t doubt that she&#8217;s worked hard at all (never have or alluded to this either), but I&#8217;ve actually witnessed the times when many ajumma&#8217;s (and ajossi&#8217;s) worked tooth and nail for scraps of food and education in a wasteland, and so simply working hard (in nice sanitary conditions no less!) does not place her over as a role model.  Though, between some movie character that robo mentioned and Soyeon, the latter would be a better choice, but c&#8217;mon, those aren&#8217;t the only people that females these days know of :/</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that's the criteria? If you aren't a melon headed young girl you can't be inspired by SoYeon? I'm not black so being inspired to want to make back to the plate catches on the warning track like Willie Mays was out of line? 
This woman worked her ass off, I'm sure harder than you ever have and you concentrate on the shape of her dome. Everybody who doesn't meet arthjm's aethetic standard might as well not try. He'll make a remark on your appearance that will negate any accomplishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#8217;s the criteria? If you aren&#8217;t a melon headed young girl you can&#8217;t be inspired by SoYeon? I&#8217;m not black so being inspired to want to make back to the plate catches on the warning track like Willie Mays was out of line?<br />
This woman worked her ass off, I&#8217;m sure harder than you ever have and you concentrate on the shape of her dome. Everybody who doesn&#8217;t meet arthjm&#8217;s aethetic standard might as well not try. He&#8217;ll make a remark on your appearance that will negate any accomplishment.</p>
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		<title>By: roboseyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>roboseyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37: even 

“I’m a girl and do well in school and have a big ass melon head, so I, too, have a possibility of going to space one day!”

is better than 

"The movie '200 Pound Beauty' and Korean pop music videos taught me that because I'm a little overweight and less than perfectly gorgeous, I can never be happy or get anything I want out of life, despite my talent, and intelligence and diligence, unless I get plastic surgery to 'correct' my physical shortcomings"

Korean girls need more heroes than Shin Saimdang 신사임당 (whose role as a good mother is emphasized, as if that's the highest attainment a woman can reach)  and Yu Gwan-Sun 유관순 (who kicks ass, but whose story also taps that ugly vein of ugly anti-Japanese nationalism that makes me uncomfortable), so if SoYeon cracks the list for being smart and hard-working, without falling into either that "be a good dutiful mother" box OR the "define Korea's national identity by sticking it to the outsiders" box, I'm all for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37: even </p>
<p>“I’m a girl and do well in school and have a big ass melon head, so I, too, have a possibility of going to space one day!”</p>
<p>is better than </p>
<p>&#8220;The movie &#8216;200 Pound Beauty&#8217; and Korean pop music videos taught me that because I&#8217;m a little overweight and less than perfectly gorgeous, I can never be happy or get anything I want out of life, despite my talent, and intelligence and diligence, unless I get plastic surgery to &#8216;correct&#8217; my physical shortcomings&#8221;</p>
<p>Korean girls need more heroes than Shin Saimdang 신사임당 (whose role as a good mother is emphasized, as if that&#8217;s the highest attainment a woman can reach)  and Yu Gwan-Sun 유관순 (who kicks ass, but whose story also taps that ugly vein of ugly anti-Japanese nationalism that makes me uncomfortable), so if SoYeon cracks the list for being smart and hard-working, without falling into either that &#8220;be a good dutiful mother&#8221; box OR the &#8220;define Korea&#8217;s national identity by sticking it to the outsiders&#8221; box, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#34

Uhm...Maddlew, who said I was bitter about the tax money?  Besides I don't pay ROK taxes.  I was simply needling WK about his "25 mil is theirs to spend" remark.

And oh if you want to meet a "bitter Korean taxpayer", I'm sure you can find lots of them in the streets of Seoul or any other region in Korea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34</p>
<p>Uhm&#8230;Maddlew, who said I was bitter about the tax money?  Besides I don&#8217;t pay ROK taxes.  I was simply needling WK about his &#8220;25 mil is theirs to spend&#8221; remark.</p>
<p>And oh if you want to meet a &#8220;bitter Korean taxpayer&#8221;, I&#8217;m sure you can find lots of them in the streets of Seoul or any other region in Korea.</p>
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		<title>By: arthjm</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's cool that the heads of a nation decided to put her in space, and the experience she gathers should be a big step for their space program; she can tell them what design factors should be expected and maybe even tips to improve conditions.  

At the same time, it's not like she proved some million dollar math formula or introduced some revolutionary idea, so I don't really get why girls would look up to her.  I mean, is it really that appealing to go to space such that girls would think, "I'm a girl and also well in school and have a big ass melon head, so I, too, have a possibility of going to space one day!"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s cool that the heads of a nation decided to put her in space, and the experience she gathers should be a big step for their space program; she can tell them what design factors should be expected and maybe even tips to improve conditions.  </p>
<p>At the same time, it&#8217;s not like she proved some million dollar math formula or introduced some revolutionary idea, so I don&#8217;t really get why girls would look up to her.  I mean, is it really that appealing to go to space such that girls would think, &#8220;I&#8217;m a girl and also well in school and have a big ass melon head, so I, too, have a possibility of going to space one day!&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
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		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 27,

No, I'm not a democrat... However, republicans also like to waste money, it's just in different parts of the budget.

roboseyo,

That's an interesting point.  I do think that the young Korean girls out there do get bombarded with images of women that inspire a more, how shall we say, a more "superficial" assessment of what it means to be Korean and female.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 27,</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not a democrat&#8230; However, republicans also like to waste money, it&#8217;s just in different parts of the budget.</p>
<p>roboseyo,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point.  I do think that the young Korean girls out there do get bombarded with images of women that inspire a more, how shall we say, a more &#8220;superficial&#8221; assessment of what it means to be Korean and female.</p>
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		<title>By: roboseyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>roboseyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the info, Eujin.  Now that my facts are straight, I stand by what I said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the info, Eujin.  Now that my facts are straight, I stand by what I said.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Andy, if you're really bitter about the tax money you expended, I'd be glad to cough up the five hundred won or so that was ripped from your sofa cushions and tossed into space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Andy, if you&#8217;re really bitter about the tax money you expended, I&#8217;d be glad to cough up the five hundred won or so that was ripped from your sofa cushions and tossed into space.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, andy thought that since mcnut said no more comments that we would all simply vanish. That was funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, andy thought that since mcnut said no more comments that we would all simply vanish. That was funny!</p>
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		<title>By: Eujin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eujin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roboseyo, #26, I've pointed this out before on this blog, but Korea is not the first country to send a woman into space first. Helen Sharman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Sharman

She's only slightly more famous in the UK than I am and I certainly wouldn't recognise her walking down the street (actually, she's infinitely more famous in the UK than I am).

I don't expect everybody to read my comments, but it would be nice if someone did...(and by the way, I agree with your comments about inspiring the kids).

If people want to talk about a giant waste of money for nothing but national pride, anyone want to guess how much the Gemini and Apollo programs cost in total?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roboseyo, #26, I&#8217;ve pointed this out before on this blog, but Korea is not the first country to send a woman into space first. Helen Sharman</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Sharman" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Sharman</a></p>
<p>She&#8217;s only slightly more famous in the UK than I am and I certainly wouldn&#8217;t recognise her walking down the street (actually, she&#8217;s infinitely more famous in the UK than I am).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect everybody to read my comments, but it would be nice if someone did&#8230;(and by the way, I agree with your comments about inspiring the kids).</p>
<p>If people want to talk about a giant waste of money for nothing but national pride, anyone want to guess how much the Gemini and Apollo programs cost in total?</p>
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