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		<title>By: Craig Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-147392</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colontus Ignoramus:  Indigenous Peoples means for the uneducated simpleton original peoples from illegally occupied lands such as Canada, Australia, USA, and New Zealand.  The indigenous peoples from Australia are called "Aborigines." From Canada and the USA, they are called "Native-Indians." From New Zealand, they are called Maoris.  Instead of attacking me personally why don't you WHITE folks deal with the issues of present-day colonialism in these nations.  And yes, my English is far better than your borrowed crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colontus Ignoramus:  Indigenous Peoples means for the uneducated simpleton original peoples from illegally occupied lands such as Canada, Australia, USA, and New Zealand.  The indigenous peoples from Australia are called &#8220;Aborigines.&#8221; From Canada and the USA, they are called &#8220;Native-Indians.&#8221; From New Zealand, they are called Maoris.  Instead of attacking me personally why don&#8217;t you WHITE folks deal with the issues of present-day colonialism in these nations.  And yes, my English is far better than your borrowed crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-147168</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#17:

:) I almost believed "Craig Jones" was a self-hating Western leftist with sloppy English until I reread that glaring error in terminology no educated native-born citizen of the above-mentioned countries would make.

滥竽充数, "Craig Jones."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#17:</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I almost believed &#8220;Craig Jones&#8221; was a self-hating Western leftist with sloppy English until I reread that glaring error in terminology no educated native-born citizen of the above-mentioned countries would make.</p>
<p>滥竽充数, &#8220;Craig Jones.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: colontos</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-147162</link>
		<dc:creator>colontos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16 - I didn't know there were Native Americans in Australia and New Zealand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16 - I didn&#8217;t know there were Native Americans in Australia and New Zealand?</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-147143</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Mayfield may seem rather radical, it is very disturbing to see that his critics never confront any of his central arguments: Colonialism is a present reality in the Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the USA.  If Colonialism is a reality in these nations, it is prudent that these nations acknowlege the reality of the present situation.  Native Americans in the USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand still reject the supposed legitimate status of these states.  If these states still illegally occupy Native lands, then the present claim to Nation-State is and will always be illegitimate.  Ponder the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Mayfield may seem rather radical, it is very disturbing to see that his critics never confront any of his central arguments: Colonialism is a present reality in the Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the USA.  If Colonialism is a reality in these nations, it is prudent that these nations acknowlege the reality of the present situation.  Native Americans in the USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand still reject the supposed legitimate status of these states.  If these states still illegally occupy Native lands, then the present claim to Nation-State is and will always be illegitimate.  Ponder the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-146868</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding to Mayfield's argument of illegal British Invasions: Tibet (circa 1904):
The Tibetans were aware of the British expedition. To avoid bloodshed the Tibetan general at Yetung pledged that if the Tibetans make no attack upon the British, no attack should be made by the British on them. British Colonel Younghusband on December 6, 1903 replied that “we are not at war with Tibet and that, unless we are ourselves attacked, we shall not attack the Tibetans.” [39]

Despite the mutual agreement, the British expedition did take the lives of a few thousand unprepared Tibetan soldiers and civilians. The biggest massacre took place on March 31, 1904 at a mountain pass halfway to Gyantse near a village called Guru. Colonel Younghusband tricked the 2,000 Tibetan soldiers guarding the pass into extinguishing the burning ropes of their basic rifles before firing at them with the Maxim machine guns and rifles. The Tibetan casualty, according to Younghusband’s account, was “500 killed and wounded.” [40] Others have claimed that the Tibetan casualty was as high as 1,300.

In a telegraph to his superior in India, the day after the Tibetan massacre, Younghusband stated: “I trust the tremendous punishment they have received will prevent further fighting, and induce them to at last to negotiate.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding to Mayfield&#8217;s argument of illegal British Invasions: Tibet (circa 1904):<br />
The Tibetans were aware of the British expedition. To avoid bloodshed the Tibetan general at Yetung pledged that if the Tibetans make no attack upon the British, no attack should be made by the British on them. British Colonel Younghusband on December 6, 1903 replied that “we are not at war with Tibet and that, unless we are ourselves attacked, we shall not attack the Tibetans.” [39]</p>
<p>Despite the mutual agreement, the British expedition did take the lives of a few thousand unprepared Tibetan soldiers and civilians. The biggest massacre took place on March 31, 1904 at a mountain pass halfway to Gyantse near a village called Guru. Colonel Younghusband tricked the 2,000 Tibetan soldiers guarding the pass into extinguishing the burning ropes of their basic rifles before firing at them with the Maxim machine guns and rifles. The Tibetan casualty, according to Younghusband’s account, was “500 killed and wounded.” [40] Others have claimed that the Tibetan casualty was as high as 1,300.</p>
<p>In a telegraph to his superior in India, the day after the Tibetan massacre, Younghusband stated: “I trust the tremendous punishment they have received will prevent further fighting, and induce them to at last to negotiate.”</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Friends comments that the USA liberated Asian nations is totally skewed.  For many decades the US supported Japanes Imperialism in Asia.  Despite its bloody rule.  

As for East Timor, it was the USA that armed and supported Indonesian suppression of East Timor self-determination.  In fact, on the eve of the East Timor invasion (1978-9), President Gerald Ford asked his puppet Suharto to wait until his entourage left East Timor.  In other words, Ford gave tacit, economic, and military approval to the invasion of East Timor.  

In camparison to Cambodia (Killing Fields), Indosia killed half of the East Timor population.  Interesting that the US condemned Cambodia but forgot that its close ally Indonesia had killed far more than Pot Pol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Friends comments that the USA liberated Asian nations is totally skewed.  For many decades the US supported Japanes Imperialism in Asia.  Despite its bloody rule.  </p>
<p>As for East Timor, it was the USA that armed and supported Indonesian suppression of East Timor self-determination.  In fact, on the eve of the East Timor invasion (1978-9), President Gerald Ford asked his puppet Suharto to wait until his entourage left East Timor.  In other words, Ford gave tacit, economic, and military approval to the invasion of East Timor.  </p>
<p>In camparison to Cambodia (Killing Fields), Indosia killed half of the East Timor population.  Interesting that the US condemned Cambodia but forgot that its close ally Indonesia had killed far more than Pot Pol.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-145753</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 02:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder how many Chinese movies will be made, in the future, featuring brave Chinese soldiers fighting hooded Tibetan ninjas and how many fools will end up believing this sort of thing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My guess is the same sort of schmucks that root for John Wayne when watching western movies, or build statues of Kim Yu-shin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wonder how many Chinese movies will be made, in the future, featuring brave Chinese soldiers fighting hooded Tibetan ninjas and how many fools will end up believing this sort of thing?</p></blockquote>
<p>My guess is the same sort of schmucks that root for John Wayne when watching western movies, or build statues of Kim Yu-shin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/04/02/colonial-tibet-syndrome/#comment-145745</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a &lt;a href="http://iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=11646986" rel="nofollow"&gt;good summation of Chinese regarding their own news&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;blockquote&gt;. . . A young Chinese acquaintance who is a journalist sounded a troubled note in an e-mail message to me: "I read some news reports recently and am confused why the Western media reports on Tibet are inconsistent with the facts? Like they only report on the Chinese police but not the thugs attack the innocent people and the police? And even worse, why are they reporting lot of false and prejudiced news?"

The irony here, of course, is that Western coverage, whatever its faults, generally detailed the street violence in Lhasa, despite being barred access to Tibet by a country that made a big to-do last year over having supposedly lifted restrictions on the movements of international journalists in China.

Unlike the heavily controlled domestic press, the Western media also reported on the largely peaceful sympathy protests that unfolded over a broad stretch of the Tibetan plateau. They generally sought to give at least two sides to the story and questioned Beijing's assertions about Tibetan protesters and about their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, in the textbook way an independent press should.

Beyond the headlines, though, this crisis tells us a lot about China, and although the government may still have the means to control opinion, the more strenuously it has pressed its case, the less the picture of the country concurs with the image that China so eagerly wishes to promote of itself to the world.

China has invested hugely in its hosting of the Olympic Games in August with the idea of introducing itself as an overwhelming success story: increasingly prosperous, harmonious and forward-looking. The first statement is certainly true, but one needn't be an enemy of China, as the propagandists would have it, to question the other two.

This may yet turn out to be China's century, but it seems clearer than ever there's a lot of work to do, reforming an awfully rickety system, rethinking policies built on bald fictions, such as the "autonomous regions" in China's west, and learning to deal with criticism without turning it into a matter of ethnic pride or betrayal.

The official slogan of the Games may be "one world, one dream," but that's not the feeling one gets listening to the state's organs. It is an ugly, wound-nursing nationalism one hears. "So strong," said the filmmaker Tang, "that there's almost no introspection, not even among Han intellectuals."&lt;/blockquote&gt;I wonder how many Chinese movies will be made, in the future, featuring brave Chinese soldiers fighting hooded Tibetan ninjas and how many fools will end up believing this sort of thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a <a href="http://iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=11646986" rel="nofollow">good summation of Chinese regarding their own news</a>:<br />
<blockquote>. . . A young Chinese acquaintance who is a journalist sounded a troubled note in an e-mail message to me: &#8220;I read some news reports recently and am confused why the Western media reports on Tibet are inconsistent with the facts? Like they only report on the Chinese police but not the thugs attack the innocent people and the police? And even worse, why are they reporting lot of false and prejudiced news?&#8221;</p>
<p>The irony here, of course, is that Western coverage, whatever its faults, generally detailed the street violence in Lhasa, despite being barred access to Tibet by a country that made a big to-do last year over having supposedly lifted restrictions on the movements of international journalists in China.</p>
<p>Unlike the heavily controlled domestic press, the Western media also reported on the largely peaceful sympathy protests that unfolded over a broad stretch of the Tibetan plateau. They generally sought to give at least two sides to the story and questioned Beijing&#8217;s assertions about Tibetan protesters and about their spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, in the textbook way an independent press should.</p>
<p>Beyond the headlines, though, this crisis tells us a lot about China, and although the government may still have the means to control opinion, the more strenuously it has pressed its case, the less the picture of the country concurs with the image that China so eagerly wishes to promote of itself to the world.</p>
<p>China has invested hugely in its hosting of the Olympic Games in August with the idea of introducing itself as an overwhelming success story: increasingly prosperous, harmonious and forward-looking. The first statement is certainly true, but one needn&#8217;t be an enemy of China, as the propagandists would have it, to question the other two.</p>
<p>This may yet turn out to be China&#8217;s century, but it seems clearer than ever there&#8217;s a lot of work to do, reforming an awfully rickety system, rethinking policies built on bald fictions, such as the &#8220;autonomous regions&#8221; in China&#8217;s west, and learning to deal with criticism without turning it into a matter of ethnic pride or betrayal.</p>
<p>The official slogan of the Games may be &#8220;one world, one dream,&#8221; but that&#8217;s not the feeling one gets listening to the state&#8217;s organs. It is an ugly, wound-nursing nationalism one hears. &#8220;So strong,&#8221; said the filmmaker Tang, &#8220;that there&#8217;s almost no introspection, not even among Han intellectuals.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder how many Chinese movies will be made, in the future, featuring brave Chinese soldiers fighting hooded Tibetan ninjas and how many fools will end up believing this sort of thing?</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good (if dry and analytical) article that takes a serious look at the case for whether Tibet can be considered part of China or not.

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/weai/tibetan-issues.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good (if dry and analytical) article that takes a serious look at the case for whether Tibet can be considered part of China or not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/weai/tibetan-issues.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/cu/wea.....ssues.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s obvious the West picks and chooses where it intervenes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank god for that.  We need to be even more selective about which countries we invade in order to liberate.


To Mr. Cut-and-paste, #5:

As soon as I saw how long your "comment" was, I scrolled right past.  Didn't even stop to rubberneck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s obvious the West picks and chooses where it intervenes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thank god for that.  We need to be even more selective about which countries we invade in order to liberate.</p>
<p>To Mr. Cut-and-paste, #5:</p>
<p>As soon as I saw how long your &#8220;comment&#8221; was, I scrolled right past.  Didn&#8217;t even stop to rubberneck.</p>
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