No ethnic group is completely homogenous; so do ethnic groups not exist?

You’re misunderstanding the argument. It’s not whether ethnic groups exist but how distinguishable they are to outsiders. Going back to the example of a Korean woman gyrating in scanty clothes while singing in broken English, not only ethnic Koreans but other Asian-Americans might object because even if Americans know she is Korean, what they see is an Asian woman. Likewise, when Koreans see Djamila, they don’t see an Uzbek; they see a white woman with dark eyes and hair. Remember that Koreans use the word “foreigner” more often than English speakers do and use the word to identify non-Koreans even when the nationality is known.

Djamila does not look Russian, sorry. She looks Central Asian.

Since you’re so skillful at distinguishing Uzbeks from Russians, maybe you could put up an Eastern European/Central Asian version of Alllooksame to help out the rest of us?

Djamila does not look Russian, sorry. She looks Central Asian. But this is beside the point. No ethnic group is completely homogenous; so do ethnic groups not exist? You have to know that you’re being willfully dumb just so you can “win” an argument. Answer this question:

Uzbek = Russian. True or false?

The answer, of course, is false. The King and many others seemed to be equating them. That was my point and you know it, you insufferable unctuous bore.

And how about you stop obfuscating? Russian and Uzbeks are completely distinct. Obviously that doesn’t mean that intermarriage doesn’t happen. Korean/white American marriages are common, but do you say that Korean and white Americans are not distinct groups? Come on, now, have some respect for your audience.

If you’re going to use terms like “ethnic,” please use them correctly out of respect for the mostly educated audience here. White Americans are not a single ethnic group but a somewhat outdated and unscientific racial classification that lumps together people of European and Middle Eastern heritage.

Russians and Uzbeks are not homogenous either.

The current population of Uzbekistan is 24.8 million. Seventy-five to 80 percent are Uzbek, though many of these were originally from other ethnic groups. Russians and Tajiks are each 5 percent, Karakalpaks 2 percent, and other nationalities the remainder.

http://www.everyculture.com/To-Z/Uzbekistan.html

On an Uzbek online forum, there is a very interesting discussion about what human genome mapping reveals about the origins of different nationalities.

About Russians:
“The Russians. This pie chart shows a overwhelming majority European Y-Chromosome make-up, with a not insignificant Asiatic input, and then smaller Middle Eastern and sub-Saharan African input.”

About Uzbeks:
“The Uzbeks – A true cross roads of the world, with almost every race imaginable leaving an imprint.”

http://forum.arbuz.com/showthr.....amp;page=2

Dmamila’s passport may be Uzbek, but she would blend right in on any Russian street because both groups are heterogenous as evidenced by gene mapping. Koreans probably distinguish Uzbeks and Russians as much as Americans distinguish Koreans and Chinese.

I don’t know how many Uzbeks you’ve known, but I’ve known a good number and their skin is quite pale if they stay out of the sun. Their complexion is pretty similar to lighter-skinned Koreans, actually. Young Uzbek women are usually pale.

Of course I don’t know Djamila’s exact ethnic makeup, but if it became known that she were 100% Uzbek, no one would be surprised. She looks very Central Asian.

And how about you stop obfuscating? Russian and Uzbeks are completely distinct. Obviously that doesn’t mean that intermarriage doesn’t happen. Korean/white American marriages are common, but do you say that Korean and white Americans are not distinct groups? Come on, now, have some respect for your audience. What I’m bothered by is the apparent equation of Russian and Uzbek by the king.

@77 - Whether or not anybody is “sincere” or puts “heart” into their music has nothing to do with this discussion.

@78 - Swear words might help your argument somewhat, yes, but informed opinions and “sequiturs” (instead of the non- variety) would do wonders for it. Try some of those on for size.

Aegyo is the power of the powerless. See Djamilya for further reference.

Just barely. Only suckers pay for legal videos here and downloading or file-sharing for free is the norm.

The funny thing is that just a couple hundred meters from the US Embassy in Kwanghwamun, you can buy — from numerous different street vendors — illegal bootlegs of every new Hollywood release for just W2,5000 or less than $3.

Guess it’s part of the upcoming US-Korea FTA, eh?

Granted she’s not very entertaining, she’s more likely to sell move videos than I will…