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	<title>Comments on: The Fifty-Million Dollar Fax</title>
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		<title>By: gaekujangi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-145064</link>
		<dc:creator>gaekujangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they'd settle for a written apology from Yale, signed by the president of the university; they'd frame it and display it at the university's entrance gate in another claim for extra legitimacy, given their failure to crack the Newsweek Top 100 University rankings.

"Hey Seoul National!  The president of Yale never apologized to YOU, sucka!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;d settle for a written apology from Yale, signed by the president of the university; they&#8217;d frame it and display it at the university&#8217;s entrance gate in another claim for extra legitimacy, given their failure to crack the Newsweek Top 100 University rankings.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey Seoul National!  The president of Yale never apologized to YOU, sucka!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MrMao</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrMao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. Those crafty Buddhists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. Those crafty Buddhists.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144670</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31,

And Dongguk's lawyers will need to prove that it has hurt their reputation in the US.  The judge, unless he's Korean American, will think, "Dong Who?" and that will be the end of that.  No, I think they want to settle out of court.  See my previous post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31,</p>
<p>And Dongguk&#8217;s lawyers will need to prove that it has hurt their reputation in the US.  The judge, unless he&#8217;s Korean American, will think, &#8220;Dong Who?&#8221; and that will be the end of that.  No, I think they want to settle out of court.  See my previous post.</p>
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		<title>By: MrMao</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144651</link>
		<dc:creator>MrMao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 02:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Yes, Yale was sent a copy of the degree, and a request of verification. "

No, Yale was sent a copy of a forgery claiming to be a letter of verification. They were never asked to verify the degree, nor were they ever shown a "degree." All they verified was a signature. Not the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, Yale was sent a copy of the degree, and a request of verification. &#8221;</p>
<p>No, Yale was sent a copy of a forgery claiming to be a letter of verification. They were never asked to verify the degree, nor were they ever shown a &#8220;degree.&#8221; All they verified was a signature. Not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144620</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 - Even with Yale's admission of 'guilt', there's still the little issue of what actual duty they owed to Dongguk that would give rise to some sort of liability.  As far as I can see, there's really nothing there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 - Even with Yale&#8217;s admission of &#8216;guilt&#8217;, there&#8217;s still the little issue of what actual duty they owed to Dongguk that would give rise to some sort of liability.  As far as I can see, there&#8217;s really nothing there.</p>
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		<title>By: Gillian</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144618</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24. Yes, Yale was sent a copy of the degree, and a request of verification. Yes, Shin had already been hired. Companies HIRE people all the time on the condition that the information given is complete and accurate. If it is not, the person is fired. That is one of the contingincies behind a "3 month" trial period.

The point is, when Yale received the fake degree AND the request for verification, Yale simply signed the verification form without going to the TROUBLE of actually looking up on their computer whether this individual actually DID go to/graduate from their university.

Then, several years later, Yale LIED about having even received the request for verification, putting the blame back on Dongguk University, saying THEY lied about having sent the letter for verification.

I am thinking that the real sticky wicket here is the lie. Yale screwed up, several times. But it is the lie, and the attempt to put the onus back on Dongguk University, that is the real issue. 

I am thinking Dongguk has a pretty good case. Especially since Yale has admitted its guilt through its many apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24. Yes, Yale was sent a copy of the degree, and a request of verification. Yes, Shin had already been hired. Companies HIRE people all the time on the condition that the information given is complete and accurate. If it is not, the person is fired. That is one of the contingincies behind a &#8220;3 month&#8221; trial period.</p>
<p>The point is, when Yale received the fake degree AND the request for verification, Yale simply signed the verification form without going to the TROUBLE of actually looking up on their computer whether this individual actually DID go to/graduate from their university.</p>
<p>Then, several years later, Yale LIED about having even received the request for verification, putting the blame back on Dongguk University, saying THEY lied about having sent the letter for verification.</p>
<p>I am thinking that the real sticky wicket here is the lie. Yale screwed up, several times. But it is the lie, and the attempt to put the onus back on Dongguk University, that is the real issue. </p>
<p>I am thinking Dongguk has a pretty good case. Especially since Yale has admitted its guilt through its many apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144522</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is they want to settle out of court for an undisclosed amount and flaunt that as a victory and proof of their innocence in the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is they want to settle out of court for an undisclosed amount and flaunt that as a victory and proof of their innocence in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: MrMao</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrMao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"the fact that a person by her same name did go to and graduate from Yale,"

Unconfirmed rumour from "the other board."

My how stories evolve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the fact that a person by her same name did go to and graduate from Yale,&#8221;</p>
<p>Unconfirmed rumour from &#8220;the other board.&#8221;</p>
<p>My how stories evolve.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere, Shin JA is giving a blowjob.  And that's about all there is to this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhere, Shin JA is giving a blowjob.  And that&#8217;s about all there is to this story.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/26/the-fifty-million-dollar-fax/#comment-144494</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 01:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So even if Yale did make a mistake, I still don't see where that puts them on the hook for Shin &#38; Dongguk's dumb-assery.  Anyone care to point to any similar case where the plaintiff actually came out winning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So even if Yale did make a mistake, I still don&#8217;t see where that puts them on the hook for Shin &amp; Dongguk&#8217;s dumb-assery.  Anyone care to point to any similar case where the plaintiff actually came out winning?</p>
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