Comments on: Language Issues, ‘Human Rights’ Hinder Police Efforts Against Foreign Crime

By: Perceptions Can Be Funny | The Marmot's Hole

Perceptions Can Be Funny | The Marmot's Hole — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:44:10 +0000

[...] fighting deportations (similar sentiments were expressed in the much more mainstream Dong-A Ilbo here). It also argues that far from feeling “xenophobic,” the general public is actually [...]

By: Enoch Powell Would Have Been Proud | The Marmot's Hole

Enoch Powell Would Have Been Proud | The Marmot's Hole — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:44:08 +0000

[...] Marmot’s Note: While I don’t expect the mainstream conservative press to take as strident a tone as you see above, I do expect under LMB more and more pieces like this Dong-A Ilbo story from last week. [...]

By: dogbert

dogbert — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:03:23 +0000

Re: #19, many big time cyber criminals call Russian their mother tongue though, yes, kornet and hanaro support a lot of phishing experts.

I haven’t heard of Russian involvement in phishing in Korea, though. Do you have stats on that?

All I’m aware of is the involvement of 조선족.

By: Paul H.

Paul H. — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:29:35 +0000

#21: “….So who do they think is likely to…(…care) when John Q. Dumbass-Foreigner starts making spurious accusations of racism against local law enforcement? The police? Society? Korea’s “sparkling” image?…”

Maybe these guys?

http://www.ahrchk.net/index.php

(My question mark is a genuine one, you-all resident in Asia can tell me if you think the Asian Human Rights Commission swings a big PR stick or not).

By: R. Elgin

R. Elgin — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:07:54 +0000

Re: #19, many big time cyber criminals call Russian their mother tongue though, yes, kornet and hanaro support a lot of phishing experts.

By: Zonath

Zonath — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:02:55 +0000

To put the last one in a different way, because foreigners know Koreans are wary of being called racist, some foreign criminals start crying “human rights” whenever they’re caught.

So who do they think is likely to suffer (or care) when John Q. Dumbass-Foreigner starts making spurious accusations of racism against local law enforcement? The police? Society? Korea’s “sparkling” image? I doubt there would even be an internal affairs (do Korean police even have IA?) investigation into it, unless there was some video of some cop with a broomstick and a tub of Vaseline(tm).

By: Benicio74

Benicio74 — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:51:36 +0000

“Korean criminal suspects go berserk in police stations, too.”

That’s okay for Koreans because they have “han”!

#9 was right. It’s not so bad for us light skinners with first world passports. Woe be the suspect who is from Bangladesh or whatever- they can expect to have any sort of rights trampled all over and get confessions beat out of them:

http://free-ali.blogspot.com/2.....chive.html

By: dogbert

dogbert — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:49:45 +0000

Aren’t nearly all of the “phishing” crimes committed by those fluent in Korea, by necessity?

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:48:45 +0000

Thanks for going to the trouble, Robert. The statements don’t seem any more logical in Korean than they do in English.

Korean law enforcement’s argument for denying human rights and due process to foreigners use the same “reasoning” as the arguments we’ve heard from the Bush administration regarding the treatment of terror suspects.

By: Robert Koehler

Robert Koehler — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:27:36 +0000

Ask, and you shall receive:

지난해 신용카드 복제 혐의로 서울 남대문경찰서에 잡혀온 홍콩, 나이지리아, 싱가포르 국적의 외국인 3명은 외사계 사무실에서 물품을 집어던지는 등 한바탕 난동을 부렸다.

당시 수사를 담당했던 김종미 전 외사계장은 “우리 사회가 외국인 인권을 중요시 하는 분위기인 것을 알고 그들이 일부러 난리를 피우는 통에 애를 먹었다”며 “외국인 피의자가 너무 난동을 피워 제지하려 들면 ‘인권위나 시민단체에 신고하겠다’고 협박하는 경우도 있다”고 털어놓았다.

And

한 경찰관은 “외국인 불법 체류자에 관대한 사회적 분위기 탓에 일부 외국인 피의자들은 ‘인권’을 입에 달고 산다

To put the last one in a different way, because foreigners know Koreans are wary of being called racist, some foreign criminals start crying “human rights” whenever they’re caught.