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	<title>Comments on: [MUST READ] Culture Clash at Hyundai?</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/11/must-read-culture-clash-at-hyundai/#comment-154637</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never buy anything Korean. LG, Samsung always breal down and have quality problems. Now I buy only Japanese stuff. It's more expensive, but long-lasting and reliable. Also Koreans are horrible in their HRM which leads to culture clashes everywhere: in US, Germany, CIS and Russia. Their authoritarian style and demands to bow are awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never buy anything Korean. LG, Samsung always breal down and have quality problems. Now I buy only Japanese stuff. It&#8217;s more expensive, but long-lasting and reliable. Also Koreans are horrible in their HRM which leads to culture clashes everywhere: in US, Germany, CIS and Russia. Their authoritarian style and demands to bow are awful.</p>
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		<title>By: vicki</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/11/must-read-culture-clash-at-hyundai/#comment-141371</link>
		<dc:creator>vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The company I work for has a fleet of Hyundais.  We call them the disposable cars. They keep breaking down and are in the shop being worked on constantly. For what it's worth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The company I work for has a fleet of Hyundais.  We call them the disposable cars. They keep breaking down and are in the shop being worked on constantly. For what it&#8217;s worth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/11/must-read-culture-clash-at-hyundai/#comment-141261</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 57,

That's part of the reason why people in the states will seriously debate whether or not they will buy a Samsung over a Sony or Panasonic.  Whereas in the states, compare a Hyundai, Toyota and/or a Nissan, that Japanese brand wins more often then not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 57,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of the reason why people in the states will seriously debate whether or not they will buy a Samsung over a Sony or Panasonic.  Whereas in the states, compare a Hyundai, Toyota and/or a Nissan, that Japanese brand wins more often then not.</p>
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		<title>By: Maharlika</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/11/must-read-culture-clash-at-hyundai/#comment-141253</link>
		<dc:creator>Maharlika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#42

"Bottom line, if you want to succeed in the ‘big leagues’ you need to listen to your subordinates. If you don’t you’ll keep making the same mistakes again and again. I haven’t seen the Koreans ever do that in engineering or construction."

There was an article published in Businessweek that described how Samsung did away with the Confucian order in its design center.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_48/b3910003.htm

"Samsung's designers have broken through the barriers of Korea's traditional Confucian hierarchies. Although Korea has loosened up as democracy has taken hold in the last 15 years, respect for elders and a reluctance to speak out of turn are still the norm. And Samsung as a whole still holds lots of meetings where Confucian order prevails. But the design center is different. Located several minutes' walk from company headquarters, it's a place with no dress code, where some younger staffers dye their hair green or pink, and where everyone is encouraged to speak up and challenge their superiors. Designers work in three- to five-person teams, with members from various specialty areas and levels of seniority -- all working as equals."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#42</p>
<p>&#8220;Bottom line, if you want to succeed in the ‘big leagues’ you need to listen to your subordinates. If you don’t you’ll keep making the same mistakes again and again. I haven’t seen the Koreans ever do that in engineering or construction.&#8221;</p>
<p>There was an article published in Businessweek that described how Samsung did away with the Confucian order in its design center.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_48/b3910003.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/ma.....910003.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Samsung&#8217;s designers have broken through the barriers of Korea&#8217;s traditional Confucian hierarchies. Although Korea has loosened up as democracy has taken hold in the last 15 years, respect for elders and a reluctance to speak out of turn are still the norm. And Samsung as a whole still holds lots of meetings where Confucian order prevails. But the design center is different. Located several minutes&#8217; walk from company headquarters, it&#8217;s a place with no dress code, where some younger staffers dye their hair green or pink, and where everyone is encouraged to speak up and challenge their superiors. Designers work in three- to five-person teams, with members from various specialty areas and levels of seniority &#8212; all working as equals.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/11/must-read-culture-clash-at-hyundai/#comment-141243</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wjk,

Again, stop accusing us of laundering money for our relatives in Korea.  That's crazy talk... blantenly untrue... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjk,</p>
<p>Again, stop accusing us of laundering money for our relatives in Korea.  That&#8217;s crazy talk&#8230; blantenly untrue&#8230; <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prior to the late 90’s, North American gyopos contributed to the South Korean economy mostly by MONEY LAUNDERING.

And, taking South Korean wives to be naturalized.

Early 90’s, late 80’s.  I guarantee you the washer was a whirpool, not an LG.  The car was a Japanese car, not a Hyundai.  Actually, it’s still a Japanese car.  The cell phone which didn’t exist was a Motorola pager or a Panasonic wireless telephone.

QED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prior to the late 90’s, North American gyopos contributed to the South Korean economy mostly by MONEY LAUNDERING.</p>
<p>And, taking South Korean wives to be naturalized.</p>
<p>Early 90’s, late 80’s.  I guarantee you the washer was a whirpool, not an LG.  The car was a Japanese car, not a Hyundai.  Actually, it’s still a Japanese car.  The cell phone which didn’t exist was a Motorola pager or a Panasonic wireless telephone.</p>
<p>QED.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk, 검은 머리 외국인</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>racist?  It's on the same lines as

"Buy American"

you know, the crap Ford and GM dishes out at every auto show.  Kind of like a dead dog's plea.

UAWorkers is the problem.  Not their cars.

SM5, I believe is the Nissan engined SamSung version of the Sentra.

This is actually an excellent example.

Here you have a great side by side comparison of technically  a Japanese car driven around at domestic price in Seoul.

Versus the Hyundai Lantra, a Hyundai Korean engine in Seoul.

Honest to God, which car is better?

Of course it's the Lantra.

Switch this around to North America.

The gyopo buys the Sentra over the Elantra. 

Mind boggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>racist?  It&#8217;s on the same lines as</p>
<p>&#8220;Buy American&#8221;</p>
<p>you know, the crap Ford and GM dishes out at every auto show.  Kind of like a dead dog&#8217;s plea.</p>
<p>UAWorkers is the problem.  Not their cars.</p>
<p>SM5, I believe is the Nissan engined SamSung version of the Sentra.</p>
<p>This is actually an excellent example.</p>
<p>Here you have a great side by side comparison of technically  a Japanese car driven around at domestic price in Seoul.</p>
<p>Versus the Hyundai Lantra, a Hyundai Korean engine in Seoul.</p>
<p>Honest to God, which car is better?</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s the Lantra.</p>
<p>Switch this around to North America.</p>
<p>The gyopo buys the Sentra over the Elantra. </p>
<p>Mind boggling.</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wjk, I think you accidentally tacked on the truth to the end of your racist diatribe!  Wow!

&lt;blockquote&gt;The gyopo will buy this Sentra, though.

Why? Because it’s ... Made ... for the North American market.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whereas Hyundais and Kias are currently made to appeal to the ego of one CEO, and not for the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjk, I think you accidentally tacked on the truth to the end of your racist diatribe!  Wow!</p>
<blockquote><p>The gyopo will buy this Sentra, though.</p>
<p>Why? Because it’s &#8230; Made &#8230; for the North American market.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Whereas Hyundais and Kias are currently made to appeal to the ego of one CEO, and not for the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW ecorn, thank you for the ‘teeth sucking noise’ line, I fell off my chair laughing when I read that; it was dead on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When I was in the Navy I learned it was called (at least in the Navy) the "Seven-Molar Suck".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW ecorn, thank you for the ‘teeth sucking noise’ line, I fell off my chair laughing when I read that; it was dead on.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I was in the Navy I learned it was called (at least in the Navy) the &#8220;Seven-Molar Suck&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
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		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samsung cars aren't for sale in North America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samsung cars aren&#8217;t for sale in North America.</p>
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