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	<title>Comments on: Cops Kill Korean-American Artist in LA</title>
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		<title>By: stacked</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/03/08/cops-kill-korean-american-artist-in-la/#comment-154976</link>
		<dc:creator>stacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@10, American police kill their own as well. I can bring up a number of articles/incidents but its kind of obvious after living in this country for a while.

Pawi stop with your incessant bitching about Americans. I'm not American nor do I think highly of this country but the things you bitch about are stupid and childish.

Your problems are your problems, they weren't caused by Americans. As much as you'd like to blame your disapproval of a non-Confucian society it has nothing to do with the Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@10, American police kill their own as well. I can bring up a number of articles/incidents but its kind of obvious after living in this country for a while.</p>
<p>Pawi stop with your incessant bitching about Americans. I&#8217;m not American nor do I think highly of this country but the things you bitch about are stupid and childish.</p>
<p>Your problems are your problems, they weren&#8217;t caused by Americans. As much as you&#8217;d like to blame your disapproval of a non-Confucian society it has nothing to do with the Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: muck</title>
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		<dc:creator>muck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think someone has the wrong opinion of korean americans.... honestly, i don't know how to say this without cussin, so i'll just end it with this... judgmental bigots like you are the reason why koreans get a bad rap.  get a life, shut yo f*@$ing mouth, and don't use your speculations as justifications for your stupidity.  when the hell did anyone elect you as a representative to all korean americans, and our beliefs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think someone has the wrong opinion of korean americans&#8230;. honestly, i don&#8217;t know how to say this without cussin, so i&#8217;ll just end it with this&#8230; judgmental bigots like you are the reason why koreans get a bad rap.  get a life, shut yo f*@$ing mouth, and don&#8217;t use your speculations as justifications for your stupidity.  when the hell did anyone elect you as a representative to all korean americans, and our beliefs?</p>
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		<title>By: mateomiguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mateomiguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree vicki.  Sadly, that's pretty common on the internet, and the usual name for them is troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree vicki.  Sadly, that&#8217;s pretty common on the internet, and the usual name for them is troll.</p>
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		<title>By: vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#100... I thought about all the things that Baduk said last night and I've come to the conclusion that he gets some sort of pleasure saying the things he does.  I think he wants to cause controversy. I think he's playing with peoples emotions.  There is nothing logical or reasonable about anything he said.  He's not real.  I don't think you can take him seriously.  You'll fall into his trap.  I did...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#100&#8230; I thought about all the things that Baduk said last night and I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that he gets some sort of pleasure saying the things he does.  I think he wants to cause controversy. I think he&#8217;s playing with peoples emotions.  There is nothing logical or reasonable about anything he said.  He&#8217;s not real.  I don&#8217;t think you can take him seriously.  You&#8217;ll fall into his trap.  I did&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
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		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'You’ll have to work harder to try to catch me on such a flimsy proposition.' dog

not really; you've told me what i wanted to know. you alright, dog. 

波衣古衣皆次</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;You’ll have to work harder to try to catch me on such a flimsy proposition.&#8217; dog</p>
<p>not really; you&#8217;ve told me what i wanted to know. you alright, dog. </p>
<p>波衣古衣皆次</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
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		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it troubling that guys like baduk can't formulate a logically consistant arguement.  I think the gist (correct me if I'm wrong) is that in order to be Korean, you have to be both a Christian and a non-illegal drug user?  Something to that effect?

If that's the case, then I have to agree with # 81 in that it's a "No True Scotsman" logical fallacy.  

What the true tragedy here so far is not that baduk stubbornly refuses to be logically consistant in his reasoning (or lack of reasoning) it's that he's wasting all of our time in expounding those thoughts in this entry and we can't dive deeping into more meaningful conversation regarding Michael Cho, excessive use of force, the police, community issues, Crime in Northern OC, etc.

I say we just ignore him.  He's "explained" himself away from any relevance anyways.  Any comments responding to him appears to only egg him on, so let's just stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it troubling that guys like baduk can&#8217;t formulate a logically consistant arguement.  I think the gist (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) is that in order to be Korean, you have to be both a Christian and a non-illegal drug user?  Something to that effect?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, then I have to agree with # 81 in that it&#8217;s a &#8220;No True Scotsman&#8221; logical fallacy.  </p>
<p>What the true tragedy here so far is not that baduk stubbornly refuses to be logically consistant in his reasoning (or lack of reasoning) it&#8217;s that he&#8217;s wasting all of our time in expounding those thoughts in this entry and we can&#8217;t dive deeping into more meaningful conversation regarding Michael Cho, excessive use of force, the police, community issues, Crime in Northern OC, etc.</p>
<p>I say we just ignore him.  He&#8217;s &#8220;explained&#8221; himself away from any relevance anyways.  Any comments responding to him appears to only egg him on, so let&#8217;s just stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, and if cars had been vandalized there would have been some cars with broken windows. We should have been able to ascertain that using a cub reporter from the local middle school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and if cars had been vandalized there would have been some cars with broken windows. We should have been able to ascertain that using a cub reporter from the local middle school.</p>
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		<title>By: Maddlew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maddlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's alot we don't know. Whether or not he was on drugs would still be speculative. Why is there so much that we don't know? Are his parents being forthright? Are the police? If he wasn't on drugs and he had no previous mental problems, why was he in front of the liquor store at one in the morning with a tire iron? Is this something any of you has done? I don't know anyone who has ever done that. Were there in fact cars that had been vandalized by a man with a tire iron? It would be pretty easy to prove. There'd have been shards of glass imbedded in the tire iron. Why hasn't this come out? It's been over a month. 
He called his mother's job "dark and brooding". A very strange way to describe a nurse. That's certainly not how I'd describe someone in that occupation. 
We don't know and it seems like nobody is talking. Shouldn't they have gotten back a toxicology report by now? Why is there so little coming out with all the scrutiny this case is getting? I believe he was extremely distraught, otherwise I can't explain his behavior. But it could have been merely a romantic breakup. I'm certainly not going to speculate and throw my speculations out there as if they were fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s alot we don&#8217;t know. Whether or not he was on drugs would still be speculative. Why is there so much that we don&#8217;t know? Are his parents being forthright? Are the police? If he wasn&#8217;t on drugs and he had no previous mental problems, why was he in front of the liquor store at one in the morning with a tire iron? Is this something any of you has done? I don&#8217;t know anyone who has ever done that. Were there in fact cars that had been vandalized by a man with a tire iron? It would be pretty easy to prove. There&#8217;d have been shards of glass imbedded in the tire iron. Why hasn&#8217;t this come out? It&#8217;s been over a month.<br />
He called his mother&#8217;s job &#8220;dark and brooding&#8221;. A very strange way to describe a nurse. That&#8217;s certainly not how I&#8217;d describe someone in that occupation.<br />
We don&#8217;t know and it seems like nobody is talking. Shouldn&#8217;t they have gotten back a toxicology report by now? Why is there so little coming out with all the scrutiny this case is getting? I believe he was extremely distraught, otherwise I can&#8217;t explain his behavior. But it could have been merely a romantic breakup. I&#8217;m certainly not going to speculate and throw my speculations out there as if they were fact.</p>
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		<title>By: hitest</title>
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		<dc:creator>hitest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What good reason could he have possibly had to ignore the police who were obviously pointing guns at him and threatening his life should he fail to comply ? Did this man not speak English ? Well he still would have realized from what he saw, what he was suppose to do.Was he out of his mind on drugs or simply insane? Well then who knows what he was capable of doing, and what exact danger he posed to the police or anyone else for that matter. Did the police have available non-leathal weapons that were within reach in a timely manner? Who knows. Simply the man should have stopped, dropped the weapon, put his hands in the air then laid down on the ground. And if he wasn't Korean-American who would be crying out now ? What if he was, humm 1/4 Korean, 1/4 Japanese, and 1/2 Afro American?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What good reason could he have possibly had to ignore the police who were obviously pointing guns at him and threatening his life should he fail to comply ? Did this man not speak English ? Well he still would have realized from what he saw, what he was suppose to do.Was he out of his mind on drugs or simply insane? Well then who knows what he was capable of doing, and what exact danger he posed to the police or anyone else for that matter. Did the police have available non-leathal weapons that were within reach in a timely manner? Who knows. Simply the man should have stopped, dropped the weapon, put his hands in the air then laid down on the ground. And if he wasn&#8217;t Korean-American who would be crying out now ? What if he was, humm 1/4 Korean, 1/4 Japanese, and 1/2 Afro American?</p>
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		<title>By: dogbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you mean male kyopos, don’t you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope, I mean kyopos who hold and espouse those views articulated by baduk, which I find deeply offensive.  From what I've seen, there are many female kyopos who hold them as well.  Korean ethnocentrism and xenophobia is remarkably "gender neutral".

You'll have to work harder to try to catch me on such a flimsy proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you mean male kyopos, don’t you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, I mean kyopos who hold and espouse those views articulated by baduk, which I find deeply offensive.  From what I&#8217;ve seen, there are many female kyopos who hold them as well.  Korean ethnocentrism and xenophobia is remarkably &#8220;gender neutral&#8221;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll have to work harder to try to catch me on such a flimsy proposition.</p>
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