NOW, dear koreans. we have no interest in a sh*t poor country like Nk, which doesnt have oil, gold or raw materials. Unless NK is a korean version of Iran, which its not, no nation will want it except u.

China is more afraid of the refugees swarming into China like fleas. We dont wanna feed them, e dont wanna have them.

China does not fear Korea. U r just the pet dog of the US, China fears the dog owner, not the dog. Sorry being insulting, but i really have to wake up some potheads here.

Yes, NK is important as a puffer zone. BUT, as the economy ties with US,JP even SK, r getting tighter, especially when the US is starting to export to China and sells more&more US-made stuff there, the chance of war is heading to zero from day to day. The only reason we r keeping this regime alive is because ur own government is asking us to do so. If u think the Chinese r soooooo evil and r keeping u from ur happy unification, demand ur president to openly asking the Chinese(and SK itself) to stop supporting the NK regime. Within a year, it will collapse.

Lets see what will happen to SK then:

1. A unification with NK will cost SK 5 times more money than the unification of east and west germany. Germany is stil suffering under the burden of the unification. SK needs to have an economy 3 times stronger than germanys to handle the cost. AND since u r such a proud and fabulous race, plz dont start asking for money from countries like… the immoral USA, evil Japan, bad commis or WB.

2. As soon as the NK regim collaps, millions of hungry refugees will swarm into SK. Get prepared to feed them. They r not properly educated for ur economy. It means u will have to pay them monetary support for a loooong time. Dont be too surprised when ur government announces it will cut ur pension, reduce the gerneral social leisure for all Koreans. Best of all, u will have to pay more Social Security payroll taxes and more taxes in general. And as u r proud and fabulous ppl, i am sure u r willing to share ur pension/health fonds with ppl who never contributed anything to it. Why should ur brother NK suffer when u can live with half of ur pensions anyway.

3. NK has stashed lots of chemical weapons + nukes. It will cost u some million bugs to destroy them. BELIEVE me, u will have to destroy them. cos neither Japan/US nor Russia/China want u to have nukes, especially not “made in NK” ones.

4. After SK has managed all those problems within a month, we chinese have to get very worried. As we all know, a united Korea is a very powerful nation with a deadly military as powerful as the US. As China is obviously a militarily weak nation, we have to worry about Koreans invading China. With NK in the back, SK will not fear to kick Chinas ass. China being a nuclear power, having an army outfigure the entire population of SK+Nk r no excuses! SK is proud and fabulous, it will take back its ancient homeland they lost 2000 years ago. It must liberate the Koreans from the evil chinese, even if the Koreans there only make up to 5% of the population living there.

BYE.

“SK will not dare to fight the Chinese army. The US will not, either.”

“Chinese tanks roll in, restore order, set up a puppet(this is all Kim Jongil is) and roll back out within six months.”

Look the US > everyone. I assure you the Americans and the South Koreans would send China back into the ching chong dynasty.

You’re right about Gyeongsang skepticism about unification, at least so far as my family, who are equal parts Gangwon and transplanted Busanites. And, at the university where I work, a GNP redoubt, anti-DPRK anti-unification opinions make me nervous.

Dr. Lankov:

Accepting that you are right with your characterization of Chinese goals and capabilities, are you ruling out a UN mandate over the DPRK guaranteed by a consortium of regional powers. Isn’t allowing Beijing to assume control of DPRK for even the most laudable humanitarian reasons an admission, that ‘might is right’? Isn’t this the dynamic that has existed on the peninsula in the Christian era, and the cause of the political upheavals? Can the US recognize China’s regional power without giving it carte blanche? Surely, the Six-Party process indicates that China is not solely responsible for the region, and ROK’s existence and prosperity shows that the peninsula is stabler when the US is engaged, not delegating powers to Japan or PRC?

I’m also curious why you don’t believe the North Koreans would not resist overt Chinese control, as opposed to a tactical surrender for short-term influence predicated in order to secure future hopes of North Korean sovereignty? Surely, North Korean elites invited Chinese and Russian help in 1950, but only to secure the peninsula. Is there any indication Kim Jong-il and his family are any less nationalistic than his father? Is there any indication that starving peasants wouldn’t just return to insurgency as in the Occupation period, since they have so little to lose? Is there any indication provincial commanders wouldn’t just take the opportunity afforded by a Chinese-led coup to declare independence as they did in the 90s?

I think your argument is a wake-up call, but to re-engage in the region in spite of Beijing.

you got that right but there won’t be oblivion. china try to take nk, there will be war.

china will lose. in more ways than one.

In regards to the south, while SoKo’s do bend quite a bit back to the Chinese, I’d say that if China did attempt to take the North, this is one case where the nation would face oblivion as a whole just to make a point. Something about the general temper (to the extent of insanity) I’ve seen of SoKo’s from living around them for a long time tells me so, though without this, I would dismiss it and say they’d value their current economic status more.

were my posts addressed to you? i don’t think they were. my posts were ABOUT you not directed TOWARDS YOU. still further, i didn’t ask for your sources from the south, i asked why it seemed you spend very little time actually speaking with them. it’s apparent you speak quite a bit with chinese officials, but that’s not apparent when it comes to korean officials. that’s about the gist of my post about you, bones.

‘pawi the fool.’ lankov

not on this issue, professa. china try to take nk, there will be war. bet on it.

of course, i understand that emotion can drive people to do nutty things or SAY nutty things. what’s your opinion on the current situation in afghanistan, dr?

sonagi,

wo yi-jing gau-soo nee. jung-gwoh yu wo boo hwei shwo.

SK will not dare to fight the Chinese army. The US will not, either.

Chinese tanks roll in, restore order, set up a puppet(this is all Kim Jongil is) and roll back out within six months.

The world community will be mum. They all need the Chinese goods.

I might add NK is nothing more than a satellite of China. Just like Poland or Hungary under USSR. They had presidents and military but everybody knew they are under USSR.

Why is it so hard to realize NK is under Chinese rule?

You know what, next thing NK will do is to attack Japan. Kim is just waiting for the Chinese Commies to give him go ahead (this will come sometime after Beizing Olympics).

When NK fights Japan, SK might just stand in the side of Northern Commie brethren. Korean Unification achieved!

SK’d better educate its own people about the true nature of NK. It is a satellite of China.

… the discontent when it arises will be channeled not against a democratically elected national government but against a regime that will be clearly a dictatorship … These opportunistic puppets will make convenient scapegoats, and this will mean that ideas of liberal democracy will not become seriously discredited. Meanwhile, the South will be seen as a land of prosperity, beacon of democracy and a truly national polity.

Long-term thinking. Eventual North-South reunification via a few decades of Chinese stewardship. Sounds pretty good to me.