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		<title>By: orchid</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-135261</link>
		<dc:creator>orchid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find it hard to believe that she's a comedian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i find it hard to believe that she&#8217;s a comedian.</p>
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		<title>By: tz247</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134661</link>
		<dc:creator>tz247</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never claimed to save my wife from the Korean male. I was just making an observation about her observations of the differences between Koreans and foreigners. If anybody would know, she would. Trust me when I say that I get in trouble all the time about making off-hand comments about Korea. She may understand the foreigner better than the average Korean, but she is still a Korean, and just as nationalistic as any other-- she just tries to keep an open mind and look at it from my point of view. She doesn't always agree. It's not like we sit down once a day and talk about our differences, but she hangs out without enough foreigners bitching about Korea, it's hard not to talk about it at some point. And in hindsight, maybe I'm more narrow-minded than she is about it all.

Maybe "lied" was the wrong word to use. Let's say that the Korean Media skewed her perspective of foreigners to a point where it was no longer believable compared to the reality of her situation. Keep in mind, that although my foreigner friends are mostly men, her foreigner friends are mostly women and she acts totally different around them than she does around other Koreans because she feels that she can be 'herself' (her words, not mine). I have quite a few foreigner male acquaintances she doesn't like anymore than Korean males-- there are assholes in every culture, but she doesn't meet new foreigners with the expectation that are assholes like she does with older Korean males. Koreans closer to our age are a different story. More open minded, yada, yada, yada.

And really, who's saving who? As far as any of you know, I could be some butt-ugly dude who had no better future then sitting in my parents' basement spending my time making half-assed comments about how every body else is to blame for my faults on blogs half way around the world...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never claimed to save my wife from the Korean male. I was just making an observation about her observations of the differences between Koreans and foreigners. If anybody would know, she would. Trust me when I say that I get in trouble all the time about making off-hand comments about Korea. She may understand the foreigner better than the average Korean, but she is still a Korean, and just as nationalistic as any other&#8211; she just tries to keep an open mind and look at it from my point of view. She doesn&#8217;t always agree. It&#8217;s not like we sit down once a day and talk about our differences, but she hangs out without enough foreigners bitching about Korea, it&#8217;s hard not to talk about it at some point. And in hindsight, maybe I&#8217;m more narrow-minded than she is about it all.</p>
<p>Maybe &#8220;lied&#8221; was the wrong word to use. Let&#8217;s say that the Korean Media skewed her perspective of foreigners to a point where it was no longer believable compared to the reality of her situation. Keep in mind, that although my foreigner friends are mostly men, her foreigner friends are mostly women and she acts totally different around them than she does around other Koreans because she feels that she can be &#8216;herself&#8217; (her words, not mine). I have quite a few foreigner male acquaintances she doesn&#8217;t like anymore than Korean males&#8211; there are assholes in every culture, but she doesn&#8217;t meet new foreigners with the expectation that are assholes like she does with older Korean males. Koreans closer to our age are a different story. More open minded, yada, yada, yada.</p>
<p>And really, who&#8217;s saving who? As far as any of you know, I could be some butt-ugly dude who had no better future then sitting in my parents&#8217; basement spending my time making half-assed comments about how every body else is to blame for my faults on blogs half way around the world&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pixel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134660</link>
		<dc:creator>pixel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Well, I assure you I'm not hiding. I'm just working. Girl's gotta bring home the bacon, ya know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Well, I assure you I&#8217;m not hiding. I&#8217;m just working. Girl&#8217;s gotta bring home the bacon, ya know?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134659</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you've come back out of the shadows, Pixel.  The comment section could use more estrogen to balance all the testosterone.  You're on the mark about women evaluating the looks of other women.  When a man sees a woman or an image of one, he asks himself, "Would I want to **** her?" while a woman asks herself, "Would I want to look like her?"  Men do the same thing but seem fo focus on a specific part.  Research tracking eye movements of internet users demonstrates that men stare at the groins not only of other men but of animals, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you&#8217;ve come back out of the shadows, Pixel.  The comment section could use more estrogen to balance all the testosterone.  You&#8217;re on the mark about women evaluating the looks of other women.  When a man sees a woman or an image of one, he asks himself, &#8220;Would I want to **** her?&#8221; while a woman asks herself, &#8220;Would I want to look like her?&#8221;  Men do the same thing but seem fo focus on a specific part.  Research tracking eye movements of internet users demonstrates that men stare at the groins not only of other men but of animals, too.</p>
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		<title>By: dissidentdave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dissidentdave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73: 

and it can be safely assumed that there are a few here at the Hole who would call "queer" or "homosexual" a guy who casually critiqued another dude's bod, especially if he deemed it to be "hot" or something. in my opinion, pixel, that would be no different than your having said that the lovely ms. gwak's first two pics were "hot, though, for sure". what's wrong with a man concurring with an opinion that another dude is hot?

as well, i believe my post in #58 would be called a sarcastic take on certain perpetuated stereotypes steadfastly rooted in cultures on both sides of the pacific.

*as an aside--and sadly, though it's related to the original post by robert of the lovely ms. gwak's photo shoot, i have to call it an "aside" for obvious reasons--may the depraved fates who help robert run the Hole NOT neglect the obvious hints in posts 47, 54, and 67 (as well as the more silenced overtures and less obvious pleas hidden in the rest of the other rants here) that other NSFW photos as they are discovered be given their rightful place in future Hole post hierarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73: </p>
<p>and it can be safely assumed that there are a few here at the Hole who would call &#8220;queer&#8221; or &#8220;homosexual&#8221; a guy who casually critiqued another dude&#8217;s bod, especially if he deemed it to be &#8220;hot&#8221; or something. in my opinion, pixel, that would be no different than your having said that the lovely ms. gwak&#8217;s first two pics were &#8220;hot, though, for sure&#8221;. what&#8217;s wrong with a man concurring with an opinion that another dude is hot?</p>
<p>as well, i believe my post in #58 would be called a sarcastic take on certain perpetuated stereotypes steadfastly rooted in cultures on both sides of the pacific.</p>
<p>*as an aside&#8211;and sadly, though it&#8217;s related to the original post by robert of the lovely ms. gwak&#8217;s photo shoot, i have to call it an &#8220;aside&#8221; for obvious reasons&#8211;may the depraved fates who help robert run the Hole NOT neglect the obvious hints in posts 47, 54, and 67 (as well as the more silenced overtures and less obvious pleas hidden in the rest of the other rants here) that other NSFW photos as they are discovered be given their rightful place in future Hole post hierarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: pixel</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134654</link>
		<dc:creator>pixel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pawi (#72) 

I'm not sure why a woman who thinks another woman is beautiful has to be a lesbian or queer in any way. Can you look at a flower and see it as beautiful? A building? A car? I'm not sure why I can't talk about a woman as "hot" or "beautiful" without you assuming I'm creaming in my pants. If cars, bikes, food, and other designed objects can be hot and have the word "pr0n" suffixed to them, I'm sure I (and others) can manage to appreciate the aesthetics of a human body without getting all hot and bothered. Good grief. If you had taken a little more time to read the stuff in the paragraph above what you wrongly assumed to be a disparaging comment you'd notice that the bulk of my comment dealt with poorly-done photo manipulation. (Are you even reading this? I know it's more than one sentence per paragraph).

As for a-lethia, I'm don't really know anything about him/her, you'll have to take up your gripes directly.

As far as education is concerned, are we not nearly all the products of our country's school systems (or at least what we think of as "our country") plus the self-study and other non-curricular education we have completed? I'm not sure which nation you are assuming that to be (your jumping to conclusions is certainly making you look foolish). Don't take the flags by people's names at face value; they have certainly been wrong before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pawi (#72) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why a woman who thinks another woman is beautiful has to be a lesbian or queer in any way. Can you look at a flower and see it as beautiful? A building? A car? I&#8217;m not sure why I can&#8217;t talk about a woman as &#8220;hot&#8221; or &#8220;beautiful&#8221; without you assuming I&#8217;m creaming in my pants. If cars, bikes, food, and other designed objects can be hot and have the word &#8220;pr0n&#8221; suffixed to them, I&#8217;m sure I (and others) can manage to appreciate the aesthetics of a human body without getting all hot and bothered. Good grief. If you had taken a little more time to read the stuff in the paragraph above what you wrongly assumed to be a disparaging comment you&#8217;d notice that the bulk of my comment dealt with poorly-done photo manipulation. (Are you even reading this? I know it&#8217;s more than one sentence per paragraph).</p>
<p>As for a-lethia, I&#8217;m don&#8217;t really know anything about him/her, you&#8217;ll have to take up your gripes directly.</p>
<p>As far as education is concerned, are we not nearly all the products of our country&#8217;s school systems (or at least what we think of as &#8220;our country&#8221;) plus the self-study and other non-curricular education we have completed? I&#8217;m not sure which nation you are assuming that to be (your jumping to conclusions is certainly making you look foolish). Don&#8217;t take the flags by people&#8217;s names at face value; they have certainly been wrong before.</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134648</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'The irony, pawi, of your marks against the comments you quoted use the male pronoun, and while I can’t speak for both of us, they’re not necessarily made by men.' pixel

are you for real? are you saying they're lesbians? lol! did you see al-theia come back and praise big beautiful butt? 

lastly, may i ask you politely if you are a product of your country's school system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The irony, pawi, of your marks against the comments you quoted use the male pronoun, and while I can’t speak for both of us, they’re not necessarily made by men.&#8217; pixel</p>
<p>are you for real? are you saying they&#8217;re lesbians? lol! did you see al-theia come back and praise big beautiful butt? </p>
<p>lastly, may i ask you politely if you are a product of your country&#8217;s school system?</p>
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		<title>By: pawikirogi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/02/12/now-for-something-a-bit-more-cheerful/#comment-134645</link>
		<dc:creator>pawikirogi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sonagi, your focus is wrong. and please, don't tell me someone as smart as you didn't understand the point of my post. you most certainly did. you're just pretending you didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sonagi, your focus is wrong. and please, don&#8217;t tell me someone as smart as you didn&#8217;t understand the point of my post. you most certainly did. you&#8217;re just pretending you didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not "despite it’s degree of validity" but more clearly I meant "justified or not"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not &#8220;despite it’s degree of validity&#8221; but more clearly I meant &#8220;justified or not&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cmm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew tz247 was gonna get flamed for claiming to save a Kgirl.  While I can understand his viewpoint, hopefully everyone can understand how such a comment, despite it's degree of validity, would be offensive to a Korean man.  (It also makes pawi hate us ALL more.)

I'm not claiming to have saved any Kgirls (yet), but have met some girls who are hell-bent on not dating/marrying Korean men because they have heard stories from their married female friends, are too familiar with room-salon antics of 아저씨's (don't get me started), or other reasons.  I think this is stupid though... excluding an entire race?

My current gf (Korean), however, hasn't made any declarations to marry outside of her race, and has dated korean, gyopo, and foreigner, but, based on stories that she's heard from married (to Korean) female friends, she'd decided long ago not to get married because of the resulting bad image she developed of married women's life.  Of course, now that she's met me, she's changed her mind. :)

Anyway, man that comedien is hot, I wouldn't mind saving HER for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew tz247 was gonna get flamed for claiming to save a Kgirl.  While I can understand his viewpoint, hopefully everyone can understand how such a comment, despite it&#8217;s degree of validity, would be offensive to a Korean man.  (It also makes pawi hate us ALL more.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not claiming to have saved any Kgirls (yet), but have met some girls who are hell-bent on not dating/marrying Korean men because they have heard stories from their married female friends, are too familiar with room-salon antics of 아저씨&#8217;s (don&#8217;t get me started), or other reasons.  I think this is stupid though&#8230; excluding an entire race?</p>
<p>My current gf (Korean), however, hasn&#8217;t made any declarations to marry outside of her race, and has dated korean, gyopo, and foreigner, but, based on stories that she&#8217;s heard from married (to Korean) female friends, she&#8217;d decided long ago not to get married because of the resulting bad image she developed of married women&#8217;s life.  Of course, now that she&#8217;s met me, she&#8217;s changed her mind. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, man that comedien is hot, I wouldn&#8217;t mind saving HER for awhile.</p>
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