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	<title>Comments on: Talkin&#8217;bout Korea&#8217;s Religious-Tourism on Arirang Tonight</title>
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		<title>By: Canal Tourism &#8212; Canal Fever Runs Amok? &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/talkinbout-koreas-religious-tourism-on-arirang-tonight/#comment-133114</link>
		<dc:creator>Canal Tourism &#8212; Canal Fever Runs Amok? &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] per a recent thread regarding tourism in Korea and the 백두대간 (Paek Du Dae Gan) mountain hiking trai... that runs through the most important mountains in Korea, it seems that LMB&#8217;s canal &#8212; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] per a recent thread regarding tourism in Korea and the 백두대간 (Paek Du Dae Gan) mountain hiking trai&#8230; that runs through the most important mountains in Korea, it seems that LMB&#8217;s canal &#8212; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/talkinbout-koreas-religious-tourism-on-arirang-tonight/#comment-132738</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;tbonetylr
Watched it, liked it. As a tourism major I thought you did well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks man.  I watched the tape, thought it went OK -- tho i could've used twice as much time to blab, there were entire topics we didn't get to...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Since you have experience working with the Ministry of Culture and Tourism I wonder if any of my students from the KNTO would know you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually all my 5 years was located primarily in that KNTO Building (mostly on the 8th floor) and some work i did was directly for KNTO, so at one time i was pretty well-known among that gang.  I still have a few friends there, we comiserate over lunch or sumthin once in awhile.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, what do you think of the transition team's idea to do away with the word ‘Tourism’ in the ‘Ministry of Culture and Tourism’ title&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that comes true, i think it would be a huge mistake, even a crime (unless the Tourism part becomes an independant Ministry as before, but i doubt that's their intention).  Tourism-attracting efforts here need deep reform, but downgrading the govmt offices is the opposite of what they should do!

&lt;blockquote&gt;when the Central Bank just reported in the Herald more of the same...
'Leisure travel blamed for service trade deficit' "Korean nationals traveling abroad for leisure has been blamed for the country's service trade deficit, which touched $20 billion last year, according to the central bank."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They always frame that as if 'sinful' outbound Koreans are to blame for that deficit, always have, and that's opposite from the truth.  That deficit should be narrowed by attracting more Westerners to visit here as pure tourists, and that could be achieved if they'd study and implement recommendations from ME :-) :-) :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>tbonetylr<br />
Watched it, liked it. As a tourism major I thought you did well.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks man.  I watched the tape, thought it went OK &#8212; tho i could&#8217;ve used twice as much time to blab, there were entire topics we didn&#8217;t get to&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Since you have experience working with the Ministry of Culture and Tourism I wonder if any of my students from the KNTO would know you?</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually all my 5 years was located primarily in that KNTO Building (mostly on the 8th floor) and some work i did was directly for KNTO, so at one time i was pretty well-known among that gang.  I still have a few friends there, we comiserate over lunch or sumthin once in awhile.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, what do you think of the transition team&#8217;s idea to do away with the word ‘Tourism’ in the ‘Ministry of Culture and Tourism’ title</p></blockquote>
<p>If that comes true, i think it would be a huge mistake, even a crime (unless the Tourism part becomes an independant Ministry as before, but i doubt that&#8217;s their intention).  Tourism-attracting efforts here need deep reform, but downgrading the govmt offices is the opposite of what they should do!</p>
<blockquote><p>when the Central Bank just reported in the Herald more of the same&#8230;<br />
&#8216;Leisure travel blamed for service trade deficit&#8217; &#8220;Korean nationals traveling abroad for leisure has been blamed for the country&#8217;s service trade deficit, which touched $20 billion last year, according to the central bank.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>They always frame that as if &#8217;sinful&#8217; outbound Koreans are to blame for that deficit, always have, and that&#8217;s opposite from the truth.  That deficit should be narrowed by attracting more Westerners to visit here as pure tourists, and that could be achieved if they&#8217;d study and implement recommendations from ME <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> :-) <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.Elgin #26:  Yeah, i did think of that right away too, was going to post it in one of the Canal=Stupid topics for the past month and never did.  It's just one of the angles from which objection can be raised, and a below-surface powerful one, IMHO.

Lawd yes, if the Japanese had tried to sever Korea's 백두대간 Spine with a canal in the 1930s, it'd be listed as Old Crime #1 by the Korean nationalists today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.Elgin #26:  Yeah, i did think of that right away too, was going to post it in one of the Canal=Stupid topics for the past month and never did.  It&#8217;s just one of the angles from which objection can be raised, and a below-surface powerful one, IMHO.</p>
<p>Lawd yes, if the Japanese had tried to sever Korea&#8217;s 백두대간 Spine with a canal in the 1930s, it&#8217;d be listed as Old Crime #1 by the Korean nationalists today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sanshinseon</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/talkinbout-koreas-religious-tourism-on-arirang-tonight/#comment-132643</link>
		<dc:creator>sanshinseon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings from ol' San Francisco, where we safely are, jet-lagged but happy.

Hey, that #30 by "bawisansaram" as NOT written by "Baekdudaegan Expedition Leader Roger Shepherd" -- that's not even close to his writing-style!  That's just sarcastic bullshit by an annoymous scamster fake -- Robert, please delete that and ban that guy...

More Later, after sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings from ol&#8217; San Francisco, where we safely are, jet-lagged but happy.</p>
<p>Hey, that #30 by &#8220;bawisansaram&#8221; as NOT written by &#8220;Baekdudaegan Expedition Leader Roger Shepherd&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s not even close to his writing-style!  That&#8217;s just sarcastic bullshit by an annoymous scamster fake &#8212; Robert, please delete that and ban that guy&#8230;</p>
<p>More Later, after sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: skookum</title>
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		<dc:creator>skookum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, looks like I've been to 14 of the 34.  Or is it 15?  Don't know if I've been to Dubongsan but I've been near there at least. Would those be good for a plenary indulgence? (Oops, wrong religion - well, what then...?)

Whaddabout Haemi.  The place was swarming with devout ajummas when I was there...Or the Catholic place on the hillside in Jeonju.  

And then there's the places the oegukin go to in Seoul.  At least, I assume they are pilgrimage sites, 'cause they are down there every weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, looks like I&#8217;ve been to 14 of the 34.  Or is it 15?  Don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve been to Dubongsan but I&#8217;ve been near there at least. Would those be good for a plenary indulgence? (Oops, wrong religion - well, what then&#8230;?)</p>
<p>Whaddabout Haemi.  The place was swarming with devout ajummas when I was there&#8230;Or the Catholic place on the hillside in Jeonju.  </p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the places the oegukin go to in Seoul.  At least, I assume they are pilgrimage sites, &#8217;cause they are down there every weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Koehler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Koehler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh?</p>
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		<title>By: bawisansaram</title>
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		<dc:creator>bawisansaram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prof.David Mason has an immense amount of knowledge to offer persons interested in Korea. None of his motivation should even be questioned by those that choose to do so. He knows beyond what you could ever anticipate…losers! A lot of what he has to offer critics of this post are noting but escapists without motivation and should do what they do best and be without sight. Pansies!!!!

Baekdudaegan Expedition Leader: R Shepherd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof.David Mason has an immense amount of knowledge to offer persons interested in Korea. None of his motivation should even be questioned by those that choose to do so. He knows beyond what you could ever anticipate…losers! A lot of what he has to offer critics of this post are noting but escapists without motivation and should do what they do best and be without sight. Pansies!!!!</p>
<p>Baekdudaegan Expedition Leader: R Shepherd.</p>
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		<title>By: Linkd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linkd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, duh. Korea could never conceivably have a positive service trade balance. What possible services does Korea have to export? Hotel rooms, rental cars, air tix on Korean airlines are considered service 'exports', but that's pretty small change.

All in all, Korea has a pretty healthy trade balance, because the country's manufacturing more than makes up for the services deficit. 

I'm also sure that leisure on balance is good for Korea, although I don't have numbers. Giving all the relatively wealthier city folk 5 day workweeks has, I'm sure, been good for ski hills, resorts, yogwans/minbaks, rafting tours and many small towns that now have increased weekend visitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, duh. Korea could never conceivably have a positive service trade balance. What possible services does Korea have to export? Hotel rooms, rental cars, air tix on Korean airlines are considered service &#8216;exports&#8217;, but that&#8217;s pretty small change.</p>
<p>All in all, Korea has a pretty healthy trade balance, because the country&#8217;s manufacturing more than makes up for the services deficit. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also sure that leisure on balance is good for Korea, although I don&#8217;t have numbers. Giving all the relatively wealthier city folk 5 day workweeks has, I&#8217;m sure, been good for ski hills, resorts, yogwans/minbaks, rafting tours and many small towns that now have increased weekend visitors.</p>
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		<title>By: tbonetylr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbonetylr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watched it, liked it.  As a tourism major I thought you did well.  Since you have experience working with the Ministry of Culture and Tourism I wonder if any of my students from the KNTO would know you?  Also, what do you think of the 'transition teams idea to do away with the word 'Tourism' in the 'Ministry of Culture and Tourism' title when the Central Bank just reported in the Herald more of the same...

'Leisure travel blamed for service trade deficit'
"Korean nationals traveling abroad for leisure has been blamed for the country`s service trade deficit, which touched $20 billion last year, according to the central bank."

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2008/02/01/200802010042.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched it, liked it.  As a tourism major I thought you did well.  Since you have experience working with the Ministry of Culture and Tourism I wonder if any of my students from the KNTO would know you?  Also, what do you think of the &#8216;transition teams idea to do away with the word &#8216;Tourism&#8217; in the &#8216;Ministry of Culture and Tourism&#8217; title when the Central Bank just reported in the Herald more of the same&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;Leisure travel blamed for service trade deficit&#8217;<br />
&#8220;Korean nationals traveling abroad for leisure has been blamed for the country`s service trade deficit, which touched $20 billion last year, according to the central bank.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2008/02/01/200802010042.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/N.....010042.asp</a></p>
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		<title>By: user-81</title>
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		<dc:creator>user-81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why hasn’t anyone realized this yet?"

Half a century or so from now, Korea's lost gi (from the canal cutting across the 백두대간) will be blamed on Japan, which is where 2MB was born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why hasn’t anyone realized this yet?&#8221;</p>
<p>Half a century or so from now, Korea&#8217;s lost gi (from the canal cutting across the 백두대간) will be blamed on Japan, which is where 2MB was born.</p>
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