Comments on: Change to Hangeulization of English Words? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/ Korea... in Blog Format Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: jag http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132849 jag Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:32:12 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132849 What an unadulterated crock of shit.What's so hard about putting your lower lip against your upper teeth and blowing air through them? Instant 'F' sound.And vice versa for learning difficult Korean sounds.Pay fucking attention and try a little. What an unadulterated crock of shit.What’s so hard about putting your lower lip against your upper teeth and blowing air through them? Instant ‘F’ sound.And vice versa for learning difficult Korean sounds.Pay fucking attention and try a little.

]]> By: stafford http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132823 stafford Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:58:56 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132823 #22 "bilabial" Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! (Sorry, couldn't help myself!) #22 “bilabial”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
(Sorry, couldn’t help myself!)

]]> By: EFL Geek http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132651 EFL Geek Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:51:04 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132651 Woland, ever thought about guest authoring on my blog? Should have mentioned that when we had coffee on Wednesday... Woland,
ever thought about guest authoring on my blog? Should have mentioned that when we had coffee on Wednesday…

]]> By: Acropolis7 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132559 Acropolis7 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:17:27 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132559 For the amount of money Koreans spend on trying to learn English, it is kind of embarrasing to see such poor results. People in Singapore must be laughing at the peninsula right now. For the amount of money Koreans spend on trying to learn English, it is kind of embarrasing to see such poor results. People in Singapore must be laughing at the peninsula right now.

]]> By: Anne http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132463 Anne Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:37:38 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132463 Hear hear Woland. You've succinctly expressed what I've long inwardly suspected. I'm actually very curious about the whole English craze thing, particularly its relationship to what's referred to as Konglish. Students often have a negative attitude towards it, even though it is so pervasive and one would have thought desirable as a part of the whole craze thing. I'm actually about to embark on a dissertation about attitudes to Konglish in the classroom . If anyone is interested and/or could point out any interesting materials I'd be much obliged. Hear hear Woland. You’ve succinctly expressed what I’ve long inwardly suspected.
I’m actually very curious about the whole English craze thing, particularly its relationship to what’s referred to as Konglish. Students often have a negative attitude towards it, even though it is so pervasive and one would have thought desirable as a part of the whole craze thing.
I’m actually about to embark on a dissertation about attitudes to Konglish in the classroom . If anyone is interested and/or could point out any interesting materials I’d be much obliged.

]]> By: hardyandtiny http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132459 hardyandtiny Fri, 01 Feb 2008 06:54:28 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132459 doesn't start with an O sound...blah blah blah doesn’t start with an O sound…blah blah blah

]]> By: cmm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132452 cmm Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:46:36 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132452 ...or hwaiting. …or hwaiting.

]]> By: Maekchu http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132447 Maekchu Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:39:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132447 My fav.....Korea Pieting! My fav…..Korea Pieting!

]]> By: Bones http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132431 Bones Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:51:28 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132431 Don't forget folks that Koreans have regional dialects just like English. My wife has friends from Kyonggi, Kangwon, Chunchong, Kyongsan and Cholla provinces and they all speak Korean different. Don’t forget folks that Koreans have regional dialects just like English. My wife has friends from Kyonggi, Kangwon, Chunchong, Kyongsan and Cholla provinces and they all speak Korean different.

]]> By: Woland http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132425 Woland Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:22:41 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/31/change-to-hangeulization-of-english-words/#comment-132425 I see that one of my paragraphs got a little weird because I used angle brackets (standard in linguistics for marking orthographic representations) and the page read them as tags. I'm copying the paragraph below and using curly brackets to enclose the words in question so they'll show up. When Korean speakers insert epenthetic vowels in borrowed English words (either medially or finally), they are doing it to either meet Korean constraints on syllable structure by breaking up impermissible clusters or preserving sound representation. If the epenthetic /i/ at the end of {oraenji} weren’t there, then Koreans would have to pronounce the consonant as an unreleased /t/ (affricate /ch/ is released), producing {oraent} (and the Korean unreleased /t/ in this position would sound funny to English ears). Believing that if we just changed the spelling, Koreans would somehow start to violate phonological constraints in pronunciation that they are not consciously aware of really is laughable. This is a learning problem again, and dealing with is going to require direct instruction and raising to consciousness what is involved. I see that one of my paragraphs got a little weird because I used angle brackets (standard in linguistics for marking orthographic representations) and the page read them as tags. I’m copying the paragraph below and using curly brackets to enclose the words in question so they’ll show up.

When Korean speakers insert epenthetic vowels in borrowed English words (either medially or finally), they are doing it to either meet Korean constraints on syllable structure by breaking up impermissible clusters or preserving sound representation. If the epenthetic /i/ at the end of {oraenji} weren’t there, then Koreans would have to pronounce the consonant as an unreleased /t/ (affricate /ch/ is released), producing {oraent} (and the Korean unreleased /t/ in this position would sound funny to English ears). Believing that if we just changed the spelling, Koreans would somehow start to violate phonological constraints in pronunciation that they are not consciously aware of really is laughable. This is a learning problem again, and dealing with is going to require direct instruction and raising to consciousness what is involved.

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