Comments on: Open Thread #35

By: kim

kim — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:37:12 +0000

Apparently they’re taking barbarian blood now!

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/ww.....18166.html

By: wjk

wjk — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:54:22 +0000

mainland Chinese talk about North Korea as some kind of headache that the Chinese govt is dealing with, as in some sort of Humanitarian effort, but they admit that it’s a shield against the United States.

They talk about all this “waste” of “free aid” given to North Korea.

This is nonsense, of course.

Last I checked, China acts like a mortage bank on North Korean raw resources for exchanges for inadequate amounts of food and fuel.

I think China signed up for the right to mine North Korea for the next 50 years.

By: wjk

wjk — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:50:05 +0000

actually, i never met a hwa-gyo who i hated for any reason.

if anything, Korea mistreated these people.

I only have an issue with mainland commy family Chinese people, who come over to the US, after having taken advantage of Chinese society with their pseudo-captitalism in PRC dominion China. They talk crap about Taiwan, say things like everyone should learn Chinese, and talk about this “island chain of the US”, that prevents China and its Navy from wielding its influence past the Pacific Ocean.

Uh, nobody except mainland Chinese find that concept necessary to be fulfilled.

By: cm

cm — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:07:48 +0000

“etymology of the Korean word “짱깨” ”

Jjajang-myun - jjajang-myun house boy.

Sonagi, what’s the Chinese usage “Gaori fangze”? Doesn’t that pertain to Goryo people? I suspect it goes further back into days of Koreans paying tribute to China - a source of considerable pride for the Chinese.

By: dogbertt

dogbertt — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:57:28 +0000

I believe it goes way back to the old traditional Chinese belief of Koryo people beating their kids naked with sticks. It’s basically equivalent to “gooks”.

Thanks for the info.

Now, on the flip side, does anyone know the etymology of the Korean word “짱깨” to describe Chinese?

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:55:36 +0000

The Chinese version of Wiki and this website (http://www.hecaitou.com/?p=1396) attribute the origin of the term to the Japanese occupation period. The Japanese recruited Korean police officers but did not trust them enough to arm them, so the Korean police used laundry cleaning sticks as weapons. Korean supporters of Japanese rule were called 二鬼子 (Japanese puppets) and were thought to be more wicked than the Japanese themselves.

It is hardly surprising that this pre-liberation usage is not noted in the Korean version.

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:27:39 +0000

I have never heard of that explanation, cm. I understood 棒子 in 高麗棒子 to mean “hicks;” 棒子 means “stick” in standard usage, but it is also used colloquially for cornstalks, hence, the meaning “hicks.” Wiki’s Korean language write-up attributes the origin of the term to the wide pants worn in traditional Korean dress.

By: cm

cm — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:01:12 +0000

“I’m curious — what is the etymology of “빵즈” as an epithet for Koreans?”

I believe it goes way back to the old traditional Chinese belief of Koryo people beating their kids naked with sticks. It’s basically equivalent to “gooks”.

By: SomeguyinKorea

SomeguyinKorea — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:41:54 +0000

“China proper. This is an interesting revision, since the Great Wall contradicts China proper’s boundaries.”

Good point. I’d like to know how they would try to explain that one.

By: dogbertt

dogbertt — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:40:30 +0000

I’m curious — what is the etymology of “빵즈” as an epithet for Koreans?