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		<title>By: More English Madness &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-131765</link>
		<dc:creator>More English Madness &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 04:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when less than half of English teachers in Korea can conduct classes for a full hour in English. And not when over half of foreign teachers in Korean schools lack teaching [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130497</link>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14

"A majority of the rest “will continue to study Englishee more harder” to be “more better ”

No, it's "more gooder"....

Great post, btw.</description>
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<p>&#8220;A majority of the rest “will continue to study Englishee more harder” to be “more better ”</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s &#8220;more gooder&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Great post, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: eyesage</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130273</link>
		<dc:creator>eyesage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent 9 freezing hours in a school yesterday interviewing candidates for north Jeolla English teacher positions. 34 of 270 applicants made it to that stage. 17 or 25 ( depending on who one asked) will be selected as teachers.
 
The interview reflected speaking ability , and their opinions on education related trends, policies and classroom practices.

I would recommend 5 of those to be teachers . Those who's fluency is high enough to conduct a class completely in  English, a level I would be comfortable exposing my children to.

 A majority of the rest "will continue to study Englishee more harder" to be "more better " teachers, as they responded, when asked what their strengths as teachers were.

Clearly they have a long ways to go. Especially if teaching of other subjects in  the second language  is to occur as the new government hopes- a practice which is needed for proper language education. The government's aims are fair enough , but unrealistic. Where are these domestic , near native fluency English teachers going to come from?

Furthermore, many of the candidates believed that the domestic educational resources would be able to produce enough skilled English speakers to curb some of the overseas educational travel ,which some  didn't fail to mention ,exposes delicate Korean youths to harmful cultural differences like drug abuse etc...

Granted, the candidates were verrrry nervous being interviewed by foreigners in their second language,in general their responses were very nationalistic, shallow and unoriginal.

I don't know other school boards conduct interviews or retraining, but I wouldn't expect the results to be much better. It will take another generation or more to get to an efficient nation wide ESL level.

But to Koreans really want it?  I don't think so. I think the nation's leaders say they need to, so everyone follows suit. It's part of a greater, more complex situation based on cultural and economic values and desires, one which blogs like this continue to explore.

Does Korea have a clearly defined  or realistic vision for itself in the world community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent 9 freezing hours in a school yesterday interviewing candidates for north Jeolla English teacher positions. 34 of 270 applicants made it to that stage. 17 or 25 ( depending on who one asked) will be selected as teachers.</p>
<p>The interview reflected speaking ability , and their opinions on education related trends, policies and classroom practices.</p>
<p>I would recommend 5 of those to be teachers . Those who&#8217;s fluency is high enough to conduct a class completely in  English, a level I would be comfortable exposing my children to.</p>
<p> A majority of the rest &#8220;will continue to study Englishee more harder&#8221; to be &#8220;more better &#8221; teachers, as they responded, when asked what their strengths as teachers were.</p>
<p>Clearly they have a long ways to go. Especially if teaching of other subjects in  the second language  is to occur as the new government hopes- a practice which is needed for proper language education. The government&#8217;s aims are fair enough , but unrealistic. Where are these domestic , near native fluency English teachers going to come from?</p>
<p>Furthermore, many of the candidates believed that the domestic educational resources would be able to produce enough skilled English speakers to curb some of the overseas educational travel ,which some  didn&#8217;t fail to mention ,exposes delicate Korean youths to harmful cultural differences like drug abuse etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Granted, the candidates were verrrry nervous being interviewed by foreigners in their second language,in general their responses were very nationalistic, shallow and unoriginal.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know other school boards conduct interviews or retraining, but I wouldn&#8217;t expect the results to be much better. It will take another generation or more to get to an efficient nation wide ESL level.</p>
<p>But to Koreans really want it?  I don&#8217;t think so. I think the nation&#8217;s leaders say they need to, so everyone follows suit. It&#8217;s part of a greater, more complex situation based on cultural and economic values and desires, one which blogs like this continue to explore.</p>
<p>Does Korea have a clearly defined  or realistic vision for itself in the world community?</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130188</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And people with a drawl, a brogue, or who speak like GWB need not apply, either. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the latter case, that is a good thing.  A principal reason for hiring native speaker teachers is to put good language models into the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And people with a drawl, a brogue, or who speak like GWB need not apply, either. </p></blockquote>
<p>In the latter case, that is a good thing.  A principal reason for hiring native speaker teachers is to put good language models into the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: seouldout</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130183</link>
		<dc:creator>seouldout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Wow, what’s that? One more thing that the Korean education officials could have done 10 years ago if they had any sense but will now awkwardly enforce it?  Sounds ’bout right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually the MoE started &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; than 10 years ago.  Threw a whole lot of money at a let's-perfect-the-teachers-during-winter-vacation-cuz-the president-said-so "program".  Produced a mistake-riddled booklet that appeared to have been pasted together by 4-month-old chimps playing in a wind tunnel.  Paid the foreigner 70,000 won per hour when the won was 800:1 - everyone was hot to suck on the gov't teat, including the wife of the then Kiwi ambassador. 

Presidential initiatives + bureaucratic procrastination x incompetence = money in someone's pocket.  May it be yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Wow, what’s that? One more thing that the Korean education officials could have done 10 years ago if they had any sense but will now awkwardly enforce it?  Sounds ’bout right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually the MoE started <i>more</i> than 10 years ago.  Threw a whole lot of money at a let&#8217;s-perfect-the-teachers-during-winter-vacation-cuz-the president-said-so &#8220;program&#8221;.  Produced a mistake-riddled booklet that appeared to have been pasted together by 4-month-old chimps playing in a wind tunnel.  Paid the foreigner 70,000 won per hour when the won was 800:1 - everyone was hot to suck on the gov&#8217;t teat, including the wife of the then Kiwi ambassador. </p>
<p>Presidential initiatives + bureaucratic procrastination x incompetence = money in someone&#8217;s pocket.  May it be yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130165</link>
		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you had a thick cockney accent, would they pass the test?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given the obsession with 'proper', American English, I would think not.  And people with a drawl, a brogue, or who speak like GWB need not apply, either. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you had a thick cockney accent, would they pass the test?</p></blockquote>
<p>Given the obsession with &#8216;proper&#8217;, American English, I would think not.  And people with a drawl, a brogue, or who speak like GWB need not apply, either. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: NewYorkTom</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130163</link>
		<dc:creator>NewYorkTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  My last post really says something about my grammar! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  My last post really says something about my grammar! lol</p>
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		<title>By: NewYorkTom</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130162</link>
		<dc:creator>NewYorkTom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you had a thick cockney accent, would they pass the test?  What's the standard there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you had a thick cockney accent, would they pass the test?  What&#8217;s the standard there?</p>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130160</link>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, with all the "crackdowns" on prostitution-human trafficking (see if you can say it fast 50 times) and the writer's strike in the States, quite frankly, I'm hurting for entertainment!

Is there not one soul who would be willing to record a clandestine video of one of these English Exams?  Then please post it to YouTube!

With the Won rate like it is these days, we could all use a good laugh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, with all the &#8220;crackdowns&#8221; on prostitution-human trafficking (see if you can say it fast 50 times) and the writer&#8217;s strike in the States, quite frankly, I&#8217;m hurting for entertainment!</p>
<p>Is there not one soul who would be willing to record a clandestine video of one of these English Exams?  Then please post it to YouTube!</p>
<p>With the Won rate like it is these days, we could all use a good laugh!</p>
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		<title>By: Rambutan</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/16/korean-english-teachers-to-take-speaking-tests/#comment-130157</link>
		<dc:creator>Rambutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us who have visited Korean public school staff rooms know the awkwardness of meeting "The English Teacher" and discovering - with the rest of the staff looking on - that "The English Teacher" can barely speak the language above a Let's Go 4 level. It quickly becomes a game of grading the conversation level down so The Teacher doesn't lose face.

But I'm used to that. I'll never get used to the seeming majority of English hogwon owners who speak little to no English. How do they stay in business? Would you buy a car from a guy who can't drive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us who have visited Korean public school staff rooms know the awkwardness of meeting &#8220;The English Teacher&#8221; and discovering - with the rest of the staff looking on - that &#8220;The English Teacher&#8221; can barely speak the language above a Let&#8217;s Go 4 level. It quickly becomes a game of grading the conversation level down so The Teacher doesn&#8217;t lose face.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m used to that. I&#8217;ll never get used to the seeming majority of English hogwon owners who speak little to no English. How do they stay in business? Would you buy a car from a guy who can&#8217;t drive?</p>
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