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		<title>By: Food Culture — Just What Does Make A Culture Healthy? &#8212; A Footnote &#124; The Marmot's Hole</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-3/#comment-131598</link>
		<dc:creator>Food Culture — Just What Does Make A Culture Healthy? &#8212; A Footnote &#124; The Marmot's Hole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more, as per one commenter in the earlier thread on &#8220;Food Culture&#8221; observed, there is a problem with what cattle are being fed:  Because the stomachs of cattle are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-3/#comment-130817</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"well, I passed judgment without evidence, and blew my bait. oh well.I am sorry.Next time, Mizar5, get out of the line of fire."

Wjk, I wouldn't be here if I didn't enjoy a bit of banter, and honestly, there are myriad sides to any problem that we might examine. 

Speaking of the line of fire, my fine Mets fan friend, did I tell you that I am a Yankees fan? (Of course, even you and I might find common ground...I have a soft spot for the Mets after they won the series the last time I returned to NYC in 1986.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;well, I passed judgment without evidence, and blew my bait. oh well.I am sorry.Next time, Mizar5, get out of the line of fire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wjk, I wouldn&#8217;t be here if I didn&#8217;t enjoy a bit of banter, and honestly, there are myriad sides to any problem that we might examine. </p>
<p>Speaking of the line of fire, my fine Mets fan friend, did I tell you that I am a Yankees fan? (Of course, even you and I might find common ground&#8230;I have a soft spot for the Mets after they won the series the last time I returned to NYC in 1986.)</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-3/#comment-130716</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One shouldn't need a damn PhD in Nutritional Science to know what eating healthy means nowadays. Voices in my head are telling me to  go out to the wilderness and live on locusts and wild honey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One shouldn&#8217;t need a damn PhD in Nutritional Science to know what eating healthy means nowadays. Voices in my head are telling me to  go out to the wilderness and live on locusts and wild honey.</p>
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		<title>By: R. Elgin</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-2/#comment-130711</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Elgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Genes have little relation to a healthy diet.  

There is debate over what constitutes a healthy diet or food culture but it seems there is a consensus that an industry that promotes a heavily processed food culture is a poor one.  If Koreans turn more towards a food culture -- with roughly the same recipes -- but realized through a western-style industrialized processed food technology, Koreans will suffer the same fate as any other country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genes have little relation to a healthy diet.  </p>
<p>There is debate over what constitutes a healthy diet or food culture but it seems there is a consensus that an industry that promotes a heavily processed food culture is a poor one.  If Koreans turn more towards a food culture &#8212; with roughly the same recipes &#8212; but realized through a western-style industrialized processed food technology, Koreans will suffer the same fate as any other country.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-2/#comment-130700</link>
		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all must ask ourselves: Do these genes make me look fat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all must ask ourselves: Do these genes make me look fat?</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-2/#comment-130699</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, I passed judgment without evidence, and blew my bait.

oh well.

I am sorry.

Next time, Mizar5, get out of the line of fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, I passed judgment without evidence, and blew my bait.</p>
<p>oh well.</p>
<p>I am sorry.</p>
<p>Next time, Mizar5, get out of the line of fire.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-2/#comment-130698</link>
		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not you, the anorexic middle aged woman.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/Story?id=1215550&#38;page=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not you, the anorexic middle aged woman.</p>
<p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/Story?id=1215550&amp;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Heal.....amp;page=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/10/food-culture-just-what-does-make-a-culture-healthy/comment-page-2/#comment-130697</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wjk: "tell us your true ht and wt.i’ll pass further judgment afterwards.or not."

I am 5'9", 175 pounds of muscular weight with little body fat. I have worked out in the mornings since I was in my 20s. I bench press over 250 pounds, run regualarly and am active. In my 50s, people estimate my age as late 30s to early 40s. My cholesterol levels are low, blood pressure ideal. I do not suffer from any diseases, take no medications.

I eat a diet of lean meats (which reminds me that US consumption of beef has declined quite a bit), fresh and cooked vegetables and don't eat many complex carbs, sugars or junk foods, and I take vitamin supplements.  Half of my intake is Korean, half "American" both prepared in nutritious and sound ways.     

I agree with Sonagi on most things but I try not to maintain extremist positions. That is to say, I take all sources of information with a grain of salt (pardon the pun), including USDA and alternative sources.

As a younger man, I too was a rather impatient advocate for change, and maintained positions reminiscent of Sonagi's today.  I have been a vegetarian,  an Organic food eater, a Conspiracist, etc. Today I am much more moderate. In recent years, I have adopted eating habits modeled loosely after the Zone/South Beach ideals - a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, some meat or fish, and mostly heathy fats. To my thinking, these trends represent a great American breakthrough in the science of diet.

Since my college days in NY I have observed great social changes in the US regarding food culture, the soaring popularity of Japanese cuisine, for instance, as well as the precipitously increased emphasis on heathful diet.  Things have improved a great deal, which to the younger observer this might not be so obvious.

I generally share Sonagi's concern for healthful food choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wjk: &#8220;tell us your true ht and wt.i’ll pass further judgment afterwards.or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am 5&#8242;9&#8243;, 175 pounds of muscular weight with little body fat. I have worked out in the mornings since I was in my 20s. I bench press over 250 pounds, run regualarly and am active. In my 50s, people estimate my age as late 30s to early 40s. My cholesterol levels are low, blood pressure ideal. I do not suffer from any diseases, take no medications.</p>
<p>I eat a diet of lean meats (which reminds me that US consumption of beef has declined quite a bit), fresh and cooked vegetables and don&#8217;t eat many complex carbs, sugars or junk foods, and I take vitamin supplements.  Half of my intake is Korean, half &#8220;American&#8221; both prepared in nutritious and sound ways.     </p>
<p>I agree with Sonagi on most things but I try not to maintain extremist positions. That is to say, I take all sources of information with a grain of salt (pardon the pun), including USDA and alternative sources.</p>
<p>As a younger man, I too was a rather impatient advocate for change, and maintained positions reminiscent of Sonagi&#8217;s today.  I have been a vegetarian,  an Organic food eater, a Conspiracist, etc. Today I am much more moderate. In recent years, I have adopted eating habits modeled loosely after the Zone/South Beach ideals - a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, some meat or fish, and mostly heathy fats. To my thinking, these trends represent a great American breakthrough in the science of diet.</p>
<p>Since my college days in NY I have observed great social changes in the US regarding food culture, the soaring popularity of Japanese cuisine, for instance, as well as the precipitously increased emphasis on heathful diet.  Things have improved a great deal, which to the younger observer this might not be so obvious.</p>
<p>I generally share Sonagi&#8217;s concern for healthful food choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizar5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mizar5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonagi, your statistic about sweetners in the food is factual.  I could counter with stats about the precipitous increase in consumer awareness about carbs and sugars, stats about how snack foods have become healthier, and so on, which are nutritional trends that are not yet generally known or accepted in Korea. There are always pluses and minuses. 

I find myself mostly in agreement with Sonagi about the numerous issues to be dealt out with regard to the globalization of the food supply. 

For instance, the FDA needs to institute measures to better inspect imports and the USDA needs to do more to inspect the meat and so forth. These are global challenges that affect the entire industrialized world, including Korea and the govt, the GMA, and others are working hard to seek solutions. 

So the general picture that emerges is this: consumer awareness is increasing and is rapidly driving change. People have more healthy food options and are generally improving their eating habits although, as there is no Utopian society, much work remains to be done. 

The premise of the article is that we need to turn back the clock from a global to a localized agrarian culture. The essence of my point is that since, realistically, this is not going to happen we might as well all pull together to make improvements wherever we can instead of holding untenably unrealistic idealistic positions. 

The fact is that in modern on-the-go societies, we can no longer aspire to eat more than one home cooked meal a day, so it behooves us all to improve the fast food options as well as the home-prepared meals we eat.

Also, we need to assume individual responsibility for being more conscious of what we eat, which I gather you and I are doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonagi, your statistic about sweetners in the food is factual.  I could counter with stats about the precipitous increase in consumer awareness about carbs and sugars, stats about how snack foods have become healthier, and so on, which are nutritional trends that are not yet generally known or accepted in Korea. There are always pluses and minuses. </p>
<p>I find myself mostly in agreement with Sonagi about the numerous issues to be dealt out with regard to the globalization of the food supply. </p>
<p>For instance, the FDA needs to institute measures to better inspect imports and the USDA needs to do more to inspect the meat and so forth. These are global challenges that affect the entire industrialized world, including Korea and the govt, the GMA, and others are working hard to seek solutions. </p>
<p>So the general picture that emerges is this: consumer awareness is increasing and is rapidly driving change. People have more healthy food options and are generally improving their eating habits although, as there is no Utopian society, much work remains to be done. </p>
<p>The premise of the article is that we need to turn back the clock from a global to a localized agrarian culture. The essence of my point is that since, realistically, this is not going to happen we might as well all pull together to make improvements wherever we can instead of holding untenably unrealistic idealistic positions. </p>
<p>The fact is that in modern on-the-go societies, we can no longer aspire to eat more than one home cooked meal a day, so it behooves us all to improve the fast food options as well as the home-prepared meals we eat.</p>
<p>Also, we need to assume individual responsibility for being more conscious of what we eat, which I gather you and I are doing.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do you quote the usda on that?

you should be open with readers that you don't trust the usda, the fda, etc, and put  confidence by paleo.com newsletters.

am I right?

tell us your true ht and wt.

i'll pass further judgment afterwards.

or not.

the world will starve to death if they essentially grew their own gardens and livestock, the way you claim to effectively do by wasting gas and money to reach out to indy farmers who claim to specialize their products.

eating like that has no proven benefits.

take a look at this.

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/23785/healthy-foods-that-make-you-feel-full/

I am either illiterate or about 85% of this is processed food.

I think you are truly going bonkers without a leg on the claim that European diet is healthy.  You don't seem to be claiming a Mediterranean ancestry.   

check out the Japanese guy.  He wants to know about your sex life quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do you quote the usda on that?</p>
<p>you should be open with readers that you don&#8217;t trust the usda, the fda, etc, and put  confidence by paleo.com newsletters.</p>
<p>am I right?</p>
<p>tell us your true ht and wt.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll pass further judgment afterwards.</p>
<p>or not.</p>
<p>the world will starve to death if they essentially grew their own gardens and livestock, the way you claim to effectively do by wasting gas and money to reach out to indy farmers who claim to specialize their products.</p>
<p>eating like that has no proven benefits.</p>
<p>take a look at this.</p>
<p><a href="http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/23785/healthy-foods-that-make-you-feel-full/" rel="nofollow">http://health.yahoo.com/expert.....feel-full/</a></p>
<p>I am either illiterate or about 85% of this is processed food.</p>
<p>I think you are truly going bonkers without a leg on the claim that European diet is healthy.  You don&#8217;t seem to be claiming a Mediterranean ancestry.   </p>
<p>check out the Japanese guy.  He wants to know about your sex life quality.</p>
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