That according to the backup astronaut (or space tourist, depending on one’s point of view) for the April 8th mission to the ISS that will carry the first Korean into space. To make sure that the astronaut doesn’t go hungry, several food companies here have developed Korean space food such as rice, kimchi, ramen, green tea, sujeonggwa (cinammon punch), and grain bars. Ko San, the guy who’s the main astronaut, has stated that the food will probably “help him do his job better and enable cultural exchanges.”
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I assume the packages are also smaller and take up less space than the standard American stuff, because Koreans are just tough and economical that way.
“That according to the backup astronaut (or space tourist, depending on one’s point of view) for the April 8th mission to the ISS that will carry the first Korean into space. ”
Simple. Will he be conducting Korean designed experiments? If so, he’s an astronaut, if not, he’s a space tourist.
As for the food, yeah, it’s better than the American stuff… for him. You wouldn’t want him to get diarrhea while in space because of change in diet, would you?
#2.
Even space tourists conduct scientific experiments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Tito
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Olsen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anousheh_Ansari
If South Koreans train with other astronauts from other countries, you would think there would be some sharing occurring amongst all the staff and astronauts. Teamwork is a critical element, so maybe some sharing would take place. It sounds like the Korean astronaut is getting special treatment with special procedures blocking any progress towards teamwork.
Sort of like the Zaytun unit in Iraq?
#3,
Yes, but they didn’t conduct experiments that were designed specifically for them, right?
“Sort of like the Zaytun unit in Iraq?”
You do realize that there are no ’safe’ places in Iraq, right? Some places are safer than others, but the Korean soldiers can get killed while they are there like anybody else.
Yes space tourist more than fits the bill here.
Hell if someone paid my way to go through all the training I would go up. What is the going price for the Russians? 20 million????
Hahahahaa, no safe places in Iraq????
The Kurdish region (where they are stationed) like I said before is safer than many us cities and hell, even more so than other places in the middle east.
#6:
No, there really aren’t safe zones, but, as mcnut says, the Kurdish zone is about as safe and convenient a place as ROK could hope to police. The US has purposefully put them there because Zaytun casualties would exacerbate anti-americanism in ROK. I am making an analogy between this and letting this South Korean astronaut eat space kimchi.
#8,
Right…
Look at Myth#3.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....79891.html
http://www.reuters.com/article.....SKHA921272
#9,
As I was saying, it is safer than the other areas, but it is still dangerous.
#3 and others - Well, if you keep up with the accounts of real “space tourists”, they receive a completely different set of training – and it’s quite short, relative to the “mission specialists” who are trained scientist/engineers who actually perform tasks and experiments for their governments.
#7 - If the fact that the individual didn’t foot their own bill defines “space tourist”, then I guess everyone is, then, right?
In the end, both Korean final candidates were chosen partially because they are scientifically/technically trained and are getting the extensive training that “specialists” receive, not the cursory training that ridealongs do.
And from personal correspondence with the backup specialist in question, after training in Russia, then at Houston with NASA, as well as the extensive prepping she has to go through in order to conduct the long list of experiments that the South Korean government wants done up there, it’s far more than any actual “space tourist” does, or could even be trained to do.
And the fact that the Koreans and similar specialists from other countries (including NASA) consider each other colleagues, invite one another over for dinner, share anecdotes, and pray for one another before each launch AS PEERS – i.e. the ones who should know best don’t make these silly distinctions either amongst themselves or between one another – should give us keyboard jockeys mocking the fact that these are all people essentially strapping their asses to a controlled bomb explosion and going into space some reason to drink a tall cup of STFU.
As Soyeon has sat down and broken bread with actual NASA astronauts who don’t deride her as a “space tourist” and don’t engage in this sophmoric, macho teasing, I think it’s pretty silly for a bunch of expat bloggers to start throwing stones.
Long gone are the days when only Air Force test pilots could be astronauts, and the fact that a lot more types of people can go up into space to perform beneficial tasks doesn’t really strike me as reason to scoff at and deride someone for doing what any reasonable person should be able to see is a far, far risky and selfless contribution to the world than any of us.
And #4 - The Korean government sent some freeze-dried Korean food to make their astronauts feel more comfortable upstairs, at their own expense, and to promote Korean culture, whatever that means. But how is that “special treatment”? So NASA might hand out freeze-dried beef stroganoff; the Koreans prepared some freeze-dried kimchi. So? All the Gagarin center people receive the same training, plus whatever their home governments (NASA, Korea’s program) deems necessary. If ANYONE gets true special treatment, it’s the NASA people, who have their own compound, commissary, drivers, and get all the best toys. Because America’s rich. So? It’s our money, our people, and we take care of ‘em, as any country should.
So Korea made some freeze-dried kimchi and whatever to send up with their people? Good. The more comfortable they are while floating around in zero-g in a cramped space module, the better it is for everyone concerned.
Sounds like some PLAYA-HATIN’ is going on ’round here. And your playground-level comments about any supposed intimate relationship between me and the astronaut in question are old hat and predictable, since trolls have made them before. So save it.
Basically, sounds like a lotta people talking smack but knowing jack.
Let flaming of this message commence. From certain Marmot regulars, I expect no less!
#11.
Don’t get me wrong, I was just stating the fact that space tourists do conduct experiments in space, and thus implying that a person going into space cannot be classified as an astronaut or tourist on the basis of whether or not he/she is doing experiments.
And it’s not only the expat bloggers who are finding issue with the two space farers. Some Koreans are questioning the rationale behind sending a single person into space for a one-time event. As for me, I am not that critical of this program, but I’m not that supportive of it either. Now there’s nothing wrong with Korea having a manned space program, but IMO, Korea should be carrying out a continuous program with at least some sort of vision, instead of sending a person into space for what looks like to be a one-time PR event.
Oh, I know, mins.
But that’s why I hate the Korean media. Even when they construct what is a pretty great PR opp, they fuck it up.
What they’re not explaining to the people, and part of what is so frustrating about this, is how very very useful this is to any kind of space projects going on in Korea. Soyeon talks about how much this is like what I see as a “super-internship” – all the training, even from learning what the skill sets required to go into space in the first place - are invaluable chunks of information.
As Soyeon puts it, if Korea sees the need to develop space technology, then the logical first thing to do is learn from nations already experienced in developing and implementing it. The sheer amount of training that all these astronauts receive – from daily flight mechanics classes to survival training to zero-g maneuvering to mock experiments (the list could go on for pages) is so useful even if NO ONE goes into space.
As Soyeon has put it, being “backup” isn’t really what she thinks of it as, since her job, assuming Ko San goes up, will be to be “First Engineer” for any development projects going on in Korea, since he will be busy being a hero in elementary schools, on TV, and in parades, while she will be consulting on any and all kinds of space projects in Korea. In short, he’ll get the glory, she’ll get to work.
It’s far, far more than PR, but an investment in getting 2 people with direct experience in not just space travel, but as inside observers of the entire process, how to train people, etc. Even if it’s planning a budget of what to buy, they’ll know from experience what works and what doesn’t. Sure, they won’t know everything, but Korea will be a lot better off having people who know what the heck they’re doing if and when they start extensive manned or unmanned space programs.
Apparently, that’s the view from the sci/tech end of things, even if the media keeps only asking her dumb questions as, “How do you feel after being selected?”
“Don’t get me wrong, I was just stating the fact that space tourists do conduct experiments in space, and thus implying that a person going into space cannot be classified as an astronaut or tourist on the basis of whether or not he/she is doing experiments.”
And in doing so you got me wrong. Reread my post. I clearly stated that he’d be a space tourist if didn’t conduct Korean experiments.
Da Metro politickin be slangin yo! Les seez if ah can hangz.
Fo shizzle my nizzle, ah dun did had mah foty uf STFU. But you needz to BTFU, beefo you wrekz yo sef. Don’t make me take that jelly doh-nut awayz from you. Hollah!
MMMM Freeze dried kimchi! Will that cure micro-meteors and space sickness? I expect the Korean media will report it. I wonder if they’ll have an experiment with mice in zero G and a Korean fan pointed at them to see if they get sick or die.
The first Malaysian in space got to carry along Malaysian food, Americans in space travel with American food, and for all I know, Russians in space probably get to bring along Russian food… How is letting a Korean astronaut take along a little kimchi ’special treatment’? After all, as long as it fits within the various considerations (space and weight limits mostly), why not let the Korean space agency draw up the menu and pay for the meals for their astronaut rather than the US or the Russian space agencies? It’s space… It isn’t as if they can forage for supplies out there. Everything they’re going to eat they have to take up with them, so is a pound of kimchi really heavier than a pound of beef stroganoff or whatever?
Why, sesame seed, you’re a racist fuck. I don’t see how any of what I said in my comment (#13) even warrants a parody of black slang, especially since I wasn’t using any, wasn’t talking about black people or black issues. Other than than the fact that I AM black, which I guess you find funny, or grounds to start mocking the way you think all black people talk.
And going from freeze-dried kimchi to fan death was random and unnecessary. You just looking for an excuse for racist harangues?
What happened to the managed discussions here? Don’t think anything I said warrants a straight-out racist harangue, even if someone totally disagrees with the content of what I actually said.
Sesame Seed, you’re a racist fuck. Since this forum’s obviously not being moderated, I’ll put my shot in and engage in the level of discourse your comment deserves. The difference between you and me, however, is that the ire behind my comment is warranted, while yours is plain old racist tripe.
I wonder if SS is enough of man to sign his actual name to that. Or are you just the pussy that you seem to be? You may think I’m all about the jelly donuts, but I promise that I can muster up the will power to spare JUST one, so I can stuff it so far up your ass you chew it and enjoy it with me.
Hollah!
Really? People here are pissed because a Korean astronaut is bringing along kimchi?
Man, some people…
#11:
I hate any idea that furthers the concept of exclusively government-funded-and -conducted space travel. Any PR gimmick, any cost-sharing, any administrative genius!
The International Space Station is a white…”space creature”! The kimchi is produced with state funding from ROK and Kazakhstan, which is double the danger. Two more governments are drawn into this white “space creature” scam. Both should be using their money for terrestrial military stuff. And, this comes from a Trek-fan who goes to Cape Canaveral (bloated theme park that it’s become), and dragged my wife along, too, just to crawl in the ISS mockup. Harder than building the ISS is the thought about how to torpedo this beastie without squashing humans on the deck.
And, again, this is just like Iraq and the Zaytun unit. The US and Russia are enlisting foreign help to legitimate their space programs, and warping public programs as they go. The Apollo Program might have netted some amazing technology, but it also was a race that consumed both lives and resources. The world doesn’t need another space race. It needs privatization with the proper government input for security, just like every other budgetary area.
I’m sorry, Korea missed out on Apollo, but it’s time for Koreans to stop using the US and Russia like they did in Vietnam to jumpstart their own industry. Creating space kimchi for one guy is a waste of research priorities, too. Free trade is a cheaper way to get consumable kimchi for the mass market.
Metro, you shouldn’t have taken the bait. The most effective way to deal with flamers is to either ignore them or ridicule them. You are going to be on alpha blockers to lower high blood pressur before you’re forty.
typo correction: pressure
Yeah, sesame seed, that’s not cool at all - anything racist doesn’t belong on MH. SS should be kicked off.
Metro,
Your comments in #17 is OT. You can at least attempt to stuff that donut up my ass in space.
I was making fun of your “PLAYA-HATIN’” comment in #11. I wasn’t making a racist statement, I was making a mocking comment. Don’t hate da Playa, hate da game… in space.
sesame,
yeah you like don imus will be subject to the wrath of the ACLU, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson
you cant mock anything remotely related to the black community or you are a bigot and racist and have to apolgize
in many ways similar to saying anything thats perceived anti-korean
I don’t want to be seen as condoning what could be perceived by some as a racialist comment but sesame seed’s comment was a crack up. Mike Hunt’s incessant introspection on identity issues on the internet makes him a valid target for parody. word up, nigger.
Name’s Hurt.
And my I certainly don’t “incessantly introspect” on identity issues at any place by MY blog. Most I do on Marmot’s Hole is post links to SeoulGlow episodes. Last post I made here I got flamed for trying to give away free movie tickets to Tarantino’s last flick.
What I find interesting is how I come here and am not talking about race or identity politics or anything in the realm of that topic, and I am treated to a harangue of apparently “black talk” and the word “nigger” seems to come out at the drop of a hat.
Yes, I’m being overly-sensitive. I’m Jesse Jackson now? I’m not talking about Imus or the black community. Just how come I can be talking about kimchi in space and first thing certain posters think to do is launch into racist caricature of apparent blackness?
I wonder why the first thing I am associated with is race, because I talk about it on my site, but people seem to forget that I talk about a lot of other things to – I haven’t even been on an “identity politics” kick for a year, now. But as soon as I show up to the party, it’s ebonics jokes and race-based innuendo.
That’s racist as shit. I don’t have fuck all to do with Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, and nobody was talking about anything remotely near that. Yet, when the black dude shows up to the party, that’s where the snickering and jokes go.
But I’m the one with the problem, right? It’s one thing even if I WAS talking about race on this blog, which I decided long ago never to do, since the level of conversation would be just about as low as it is right now, but how you justify me talking straight about a completely different topic, then somebody starts their replies like I showed up talking like a bad Snoop Dogg impression?
If you have a problem with my talking about race or identity politics or what have you, then save it for when I talk about some shit related to that – which I don’t even do often anymore.
Basically, from the behavior dsplayed here, I’m “the black guy” at the party, with certain members just waiting for the chance to jump in on that.
Can’t believe talking about the Korean space program gets another “nigger” joke in a public forum.
Seriously, Marmot’s Hole doesn’t benefit from these assholes stifling discourse about anything other than what mostly right-leaning, conservative white men, which is generally why that’s the only kind of commenter/poster one gets here.
I know the Marmot wanted to recruit some different points of view here, but no one in their right mind with a real different viewpoint would want to put up with this level of bullshit.
No wonder you only get the same bullshit commenters saying the same bullshit all the time.
And #17, “playa-hating” is well within the realm of pretty mainstream slang. What you were doing was picking the single “black” word I used in that lengthy, non-slang0-filled comment as an excuse to do a black joke out of the blue at my expense.
Which makes you a racist fuck.
What about the Japanese? Nobody has mentioned them yet.
I don’t know if it is really the food that astronauts can select, but I did find this student activity based upon what the astronauts themselves do:
“Food evaluations are conducted approximately eight to nine months before the flight. During the food evaluation sessions, the astronaut is given the opportunity to sample a variety of foods and beverages available for flight. A pack of information is given to each astronaut to use in planning their personal preference menus. Included in the packet is a standard menu, training menu, past flight menus the astronaut has chosen, and the baseline shuttle food and beverage list.
Astronauts select their menu approximately five months before flight. The menus are analyzed for nutritional content by the Shuttle Dietitian and recommendations are made to correct any nutrient deficiencies based on the Recommended Dietary Allowances. The menus are then finalized and provided to the Flight Equipment Processing Contractor (FEPC) in Houston three months before launch. The FEPC processes, packages, and stows the food in the Shuttle lockers before being transferred to KSC.”
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/f.....light.html
The list of food available is quite extensive, but it is similar to the multicultural menu you would find, say, in a TGI Friday’s or standard restaurant chain. As a matter of fact, restaurant food is generally so packaged, it could last through nuclear blasts. No mention of national favorites outside of America.
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/190540.....ection.pdf
I also googled this article, which also discusses the problem with NASA food and industry spinoffs, about JAXA’s Japanese menu choices.
http://www.asahi.com/english/H.....00086.html
The same issues apply to space kimchi, JAXA-inspired food, and most of American restaurant and supermarket food. Why is space food so fashionable, but genetically-modified food, and other health- and safety-related issues ignored? Keep it earth-bound, but make it FTA food! let astronauts eat the modified stuff, but leave us alone!
Also, this industrialized food benefits companies, not farmers. Farmers get squeezed even more because they can’t produce what the companies need, and then get bought out. Again, grow what you can and trade for the rest, but keep the companies away!
#29,
Thanks for the link. It raises another good point about space food: it provides comfort. They wouldn’t want an astronaut going nuts after 2 days in space because the food sucks, would they?
#26 point proven once again
Dude you really need to get over it. The world doesn’t owe you anything because you are black. The victim story over and over gets old.
For example Joe Biden calls Obama articulate and he’s secretly saying all blacks are not articulate and the race card is used once again. Now if Oprah says he’s articulate no one blinks an eye.
Do you know anyone on here to make such accusations of being a racist????
“Seriously, Marmot’s Hole doesn’t benefit from these assholes stifling discourse about anything other than what mostly right-leaning, conservative white men, which is generally why that’s the only kind of commenter/poster one gets here.”
So it’s ok for you to make broad generalizations like the ones above???? So all white conservatives are bigots huh?
And who is the real racist here?
“No wonder you only get the same bullshit commenters saying the same bullshit all the time.”
Above self-description of yourself good job!
The black guy at the party comments are way off base and ridiculous because to be completely honest with you I had no idea you were black until reading about your incident of being arrested near Ehwa.
The main issue for me is that no one can say anything without being labeled a racist who hates blacks and you prove that point over and over by going on tangents about white people and Koreans hating you because you are black.
Santa Clause can’t even say Ho Ho Ho anymore because it might be offensive to blacks who call women HO’s. WTF is the world coming to?
How about asking Blacks to stop saying HO and not asking Santa Claus!!!!!!
Give me a break, nuff said!
McNut/ Sesame Seed - I don’t know if you guys ever spent anytime in Korea, and if not, what attracts you to MH. But, if you did spend anytime here at all, it looks like you must have forgotten all about it during your time back in the States, and what it’s like to be a member of a minority group in society. As a white foreigner in Korea, it bothers me when people start making jokes about foreigners when I’m around - how could it not? You guys really need to stop being so self absorbed, and start thinking about how other people perceive the world, and your comments.
#31
“Santa Clause can’t even say Ho Ho Ho anymore because it might be offensive to blacks who call women HO’s. WTF is the world coming to?
How about asking Blacks to stop saying HO and not asking Santa Claus!!!!!!”
Man, you’re racist as a motherfucker.
My point is, I can’t come onto a forum and talk about SPACE EXPLORATION without one of you idiots talking about just this sort of shit: first starting with black slang harangue, or how sick you are of Al Sharpton, or how Imus got fucked over, or whatever ax you have to grind.
What the fuck does that have to do with the price of cheese in Iowa, or my conversation about space exploration with how black people talk?
Your problem is you see me as representing something – as a mere member of a group – hence, your obvious chip about not being able to say “ho ho ho” without black people apparently coming to get you.
Mcnut and SS – basically, you spoke way out of line and are talking about a whole bunch of shit that has nothing to do with me, save the fact that me, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and all these other people with whom I have no relationship do have one thing in common: being black.
Which apparently bothers you. Yeah. You and too many people here are white men with a fucking ax to grind.
And moron, that is categorically different than saying “all white men have an ax to grind.” That would meet the definition of a sweeping generalization to be offended about.
You’re so fucking stupid, you don’t know the difference, and you are damn thick-headed to realize when you’re just being an obvious dick.
And you’re also one of those people who like to talk shit online, but would probably never say any of this shit to my face, nor any other black person’s. And no, Snoop Dogg and the posse wouldn’t come at you with machine guns and a gangster lean; I’d just come across the table and slap the tar out your mouth, as any normal person would if someone was being such a monumental cock to someone else’s face, regardless background.
If I came up to you talking about how much I hate “lily white crackers” and their fucking racist bullshit after you just opened your mouth about the perils of space exploration, then continued it by talking about how much I hated white motherfuckas who watche Perry Como while eating their Mayonnaise Sandwiches™ in Minnesoder, you’d be rightfully pissed, too.
Because what the fuck would that have to do with a conversation about space exploration? And I wouldn’t be surprised if you came over and socked me. Because then, I’d be a dick.
Just like you’re being a massive tool right now.
Flaming is alright, but the racist shit isn’t cool.
#39:
I think if food will set you off, that’s a good reason not be a space “explorer”. Comfort is not part of the adventure!
OOOOPPPs!
That should be #30!
‘…nigger.’smeglee
wait a minute, you go ape when koreans publish pictures of blacks as sambos, but someone here uses one of the most offensive words in american english and you do nothing?
you need to delete that post, but i won’t hold my breath since you’ll probably be more interested in showing me that you ain’t gonna let me push you around.
metro
i am not a racist and i apologize if you thought that but I like you have opinions on the issue
my question to the usage of the race card at every opportunity is first look at yourself
you immediately called sesame a racist and other names without addressing anything related to what he meant
i dont just talk shit online i can see you, have drink with you, hang out and it would be like nothing
i would not judge you based on your color
i would base my opinion of you you on your character but you should also gauge yourself in the same manner
and YES I WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS AND HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR
dont always think “i am the different one here” to me you would not be black but a person another person at the party
i read your blog often even though you are a left winger! i respect some of your opinions
before you lable someone a racist at least question their motives without the overreaction if you still feel they are racist then maybe its ok to call them that
I think some people can toss out what seems innocuous, when it’s really bait.
I also think some people can eagerly snatch up that bait and run with it, then flail about in a cesspool of excuses instead of manning up and apologizing without the “but you….” bullshit.
Someguy, I don’t need to reread your comment. I know what you said. Now the fact is Ko San will conduct Korean experiments in space, so in your book he’s an astronaut. But let’s say for the sake of argument that after his selection, the Korean government didn’t have any experiments for Ko San, but NASA or ESA did. Then in your book, he’s now a space tourist. Anyways, my point is that you can’t say a space farer is a tourist or astronaut based on experiments alone regardless of the nationality of the said experiments.
Webster’s says anyone who goes into space is an astro/cosmo-naut.Fuck all you hair splitters.Is his trip valid? Are you paying for it? Are you jealous? Fuck you all and your pissant cock fights. For all you know, mine’s bigger. Get a better life.
Yang Liwei, China’s first man in space, is a taikonaut.
This is off topic again.
Mcnut,
I understand what you’re saying about double standards for different colors.
Metro,
Dude, take it easy. A simple test of a racial comment would be to see if I would or have said something like what I said to a (insert race here) person’s face.
I would and have, but only when they start it.
I would also argue that the way that my language came out may not necessarily be black. I heard southern whites and northeastern hispanics talk like that. You don’t have a monopoly on the street slang, bro.
Now, just to poke you a little more… Why do you have a victim mentality? Yeah, you may have been a victim, you may have had some tough times or someone called you a (insert your derogatory term). It’s wrong, we all know it, but it’s life, do what you gotta do and move on. I happen to know you’re black, but even if I didn’t know and you made the “PLAYA-HATIN” comment, I would still razz you. Ok? I’m keeping it equal opportunity.
But if you still insist on labeling me a racist, then I say you’re a black supremacist and equally hateful. There we’re even, now let’s go hate on some fashion or shoes, yeah, Boooiiiiii!!
SS - If you honestly didn’t know that Metro was African American when you made your comment - then apologize and drop it. If you did know and were trying to antogonize him because he’s black, then you are a racist.
There’s no double standard here - the standard is simple and straightforward - you don’t go mocking someone because of their ethnicity, religion, or nationality. You should really go somewhere and try experiencing your kind of ignorance to really understand what it’s about.
Nobody has a “victim mentality.”
I was talking about space. Then you started talking like a drunk Snoop Dogg, apparently, in mockery of the way you think I talk. If we were at a cocktail party and you started doing that shit, most people would think you’re being a cock.
Calling out somebody being racist isn’t a sign of “victim mentality.” That’s what you were being. People act like that word requires one to have a Klan hat on holding a noose. No – you go into some idiotic diatribe, some other guy starts using the word “nigger” at the drop of a hat, people start invoking Al Sharpton and how sick they are of black people making it tough for them to say “ho ho ho.”
Who the fuck has a complex? I was talking about freeze-dried kimchi, bitch.
Fuck your equivocating. You know what you saying, and you’re just not man enough to say “Sorry, I fucked up.”
You and a couple others were way out of line, no matter what you think of me or my blog. This ain’t my blog, and if you think I’m a whiny prima donna or an affirmative action baby or Al Sharpton, then take it up over there, when somebody’s talking about that shit.
You’re being a grade-A dick. If you just think that was a little “slip of the tongue” then just man up and say it. Don’t embarrass yourself further by trying to hem, haw, and equivocate your way out of the fact that you were way the fuck out of line.
If you think this is me being “oversensitive”, well, you’re pretty fucking out of touch with reality. Go try – in person – to affect a “Mexican” accent with a Latino man on the street, or start mocking black slang with any black man wearing a suit at a business conference or cocktail party. Or start into a bad rendition of Danny Boy and making Irish jokes in South Boston.
See if you don’t get a fat lip. “But I was just joking around! Didn’t you think that was funny?”
What are you? 15? Get a fucking clue.
Jesus Fucking Christ, this is what I’ve got to see when I log into my blog on Monday morning? In a post about frozen kimchi in space?
Metro,
Here’s what you said in #11.
“Sounds like some PLAYA-HATIN’ is going on ’round here. And your playground-level comments about any supposed intimate relationship between me and the astronaut in question are old hat and predictable, since trolls have made them before. So save it.
“Basically, sounds like a lotta people talking smack but knowing jack.”
Like I said, I only start talking or mocking when you/they start it.
I’m not going to apologize because I’m man enough to know what I said and stick by it. If you can’t understand that I was mocking your comments, not because you’re black, but because you started it, then deal. What are you? 15? Get a fucking clue.
Summed up simply… you didn’t like that I mocked you or the way I mocked you, and instead of laughing it off, or have a witty comeback, you use the - old and busted - race card. If we were at a cocktail party and you started doing that shit, most people would think you’re being a pussy. And pussy always gets fucked by cock (real or otherwise).
Here’s something to chew on. You know that song, “Pretty fly for a white guy?” Imagine if they switched it for “Pretty smart for a black guy.” Same song different lyrics. Who should be labeled a racist?
Black comedians do white impersonations, but if a white guy did a black impersonation, he would be labeled a racist. Double standard, see?
I never use the N-word. It abhors me. Yet, I can listen to Dr. Dre use the work “nigga” and deal. I know the difference. And if I’m not allowed to use the same language in company with the people speaking that way, then that too is discrimination. If I’m at a mostly black people party, and they’re using “nigga,” the I should be able to use that word, but NOOOO, I gotta tip-toe through the fucking tulips. If I were to utter that word after they have used it a thousand times in front of me, I’d be a racist. What’s the fucking logic in that? I’m trying to be color blind, but they/you want to make it a black thing.
I wouldn’t mock anyone wearing a suit unless there was something he said or started that gave me license to mock him, i.e., if we were at a business conference and he came up to me and said, “What up, dog?” I’d respond, “What up, yo.” If he’d said, “Hello, sir.” I’d respond, “How can I help you, sir?”
I’m tired of justifying myself and my right to be a grade-A dick. Why don’t you just man up and say that you are retarded and you’re so thin skinned that you can’t take a ribbing about what YOU said. “I’m Mike Hurt, the God of Fashion and Racial Issues! How dare you poke fun at me, don’t you know I graduated from Berkley? I have a double doctorate in Black Supremacy and high heel rim jobs!” Don’t embarrass yourself further by using the race card, pussy.
Sorry Robert,
Kimchi rulz in space! So Yeon is hot, and Metro has a monopoly on anything that he thinks is racial, even if it’s not.
SS- You need to get a clue. “n*ggr” from the mouth of a white person has a completely different meaning than “nigga” said by a black person to a black audience. The former - a way to put down African Americans, the latter, a term of brotherhood between blacks. If you don’t like it, that’s too bad for you, but African Americans, like all groups, deserve the right to determine their own name and identity. It’s not up to you to name them.
It is my understanding that many blacks don’t like it when other blacks refer to each other as ‘nigger.’ I believe that the NAACP tried to symbolically bury the word a few years back (or something like that).
BTW, Kimchi in space rocks so hard.
Ban wept.
dogbertt - is that you or a young Vladimir Putin on your picture.
takeshimaforever,
Bite me. I know the difference and I don’t need you telling me. I never EVER said the N-word.
Let any group determine their own name and identity, just don’t get upset when someone outside of said group uses the exact same terminology. I’m not naming them, I’m using their own self-determined name. Got it? If black people had decided to use the word “telephone” to describe their own name and identity, does that mean I can’t use “telephone” because I might offend someone?
What up “telephone!” And then I get beat down because it’s exclusive to black people? Please.
I have an idea, how about all expatriates in Korea start using the word “Takeshima” to describe the shared bond of foreigners in Korea. “What up Takeshima!” “Peace out, Takeshima!”
If you don’t like it, that’s too bad for you. They deserve the right to determine their own name and identity. It’s not up to you to name them.
Oh, yeah, Dwenchang Jiggae…in space…is da bomb!
It’s Putin, but there is certainly a resemblance.
“I never use the N-word. It abhors me.”
Haha. You “abhor me,” too. Idiot.
I “started it?” Because I used a single common slang word in a post about space flight? Then when I get this:
“Da Metro politickin be slangin yo! Les seez if ah can hangz.
Fo shizzle my nizzle, ah dun did had mah foty uf STFU. But you needz to BTFU, beefo you wrekz yo sef. Don’t make me take that jelly doh-nut awayz from you. Hollah!”
I’m playing the “race card.” OK - sounds like my race was the main point of ridicule here. “Fo shizzle my nizzle” and I drink “forties”?
Your rant:
“Let any group determine their own name and identity, just don’t get upset when someone outside of said group uses the exact same terminology. I’m not naming them, I’m using their own self-determined name. Got it? If black people had decided to use the word “telephone” to describe their own name and identity, does that mean I can’t use “telephone” because I might offend someone?
What up “telephone!” And then I get beat down because it’s exclusive to black people? Please.”
Again, fuckhead – what does that have to do with any shit I said about space exploration, its relative worth vis-a-vis national agendas, the definition of space travel, etc.
And yeah, I said let the flaming begin, but I at least thought it would have to do with the topic at hand, and not some idiotic rant about what YOU think black people should call THEMSELVES, and whatever other opinions – very strong, chip-on-your-shoulder opinions – you seem to have about black people.
Which has nothing the fuck to do with me or anything I was talking about.
““I’m Mike Hurt, the God of Fashion and Racial Issues! How dare you poke fun at me, don’t you know I graduated from Berkley? I have a double doctorate in Black Supremacy and high heel rim jobs!”
Who the fuck has a complex? Was I talking about any of that shit? Did I declare myself the God of anything in any place other than your mind? Yeah, I have strong opinions on things, but I generally keep my shit to MY blogs – and anyone is a king in his or her SELF-defined domain. That’s why it’s a BLOG, fuckhead, and not the New York Times. That’s why they call it MYspace and not YOURS. So you’re mad I talk about whatever on my blogs? OK - so take it there – my house.
But when I come outside, to someone else’s house, I participate as just another member, and offer comments within the parameters of the conversation. I don’t appeal to authority or credentials except when other idiots attack my authrotiy on the basis of my credentials, or try to lord their credentials over me. Which generally happens, again – on MY BLOG.
So since I wasn’t talking about ANY of that shit, and was keeping it to SPACE TRAVEL, which was the topic at hand, YOU fucked up by going into some modern-day step-n-fetchit routine, talking about me drinkin 40-ouncers and whatever offensive bullshit, then act all shocked when I get pissed and call you on your racist crap. If anyone has a “victim complex” it’s you, because then you start going off on how black people are this, black people shouldn’t be doing that, how white’s these days can’t do whatall because of crazy black folks – whatever.
You were thinking categorically from the beginning, and you’re too fucking stupid to quit while you’re ahead, since you just continued your diatribe about blacks this, blacks that. Even as I and others were telling you that all that shit ain’t got nothing to do with me.
“Double dumb ass on you,” dickwad. There - it’s a Star Trek reference and space-related. There’s your “witty comeback.” You’re still a fuckwad.
#20 - You’re right. Hehe. Chewing on a handful and chugging them down as we speak. ㅋㅋ
Some people here don’t like Metro; that’s been well established in previous posts. But keep your racist crap and subsequent excuses to your despicable selves.
I’m a little dismayed. Is this really the same Metro I was thinking of when I wrote this, back in August:
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/.....ent-102316
rice, kimchi, ramen, green tea, sujeonggwa (cinammon punch), and grain bars
What the hell kind of menu is that?
Korea would send a Canadian Engrish teacher into space, but he’d probably get busted for trying to smuggle weed into the international space station.
#58 Yep, that’s me. And why I stopped cross-posting at Marmot’s. If I can’t give away free Tarantino tix without catching hell, why bother? Anyway, I just try to keep it to the occasional comment here. Posting’s not worth the headache.
@60 you are a master baiter (sp?)