Comments on: An Auto Accident at Sea? http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/ Korea... in Blog Format Fri, 9 Jan 2009 07:16:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: ●~* http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127376 ●~* Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:51:57 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127376 Refer to comments here, http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/11/oil-spill-in-san-francisco-bay The shipping company is also the owner of the oil tanker. Shipping company and ship owner can be differnet ones. The tanker is REGISTERED in HongKong, which means the flag(or nationality) of the ship is HongKong. It does not mean the ship was not at Tae-an. U know proxy, agent, deputy or alter ego, or etc. No wonder. But I wonder who's the owner of the cargo. Any article revealed who's the owner of the oil spilt. Refer to comments here, http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/.....ncisco-bay

The shipping company is also the owner of the oil tanker. Shipping company and ship owner can be differnet ones.
The tanker is REGISTERED in HongKong, which means the flag(or nationality) of the ship is HongKong. It does not mean the ship was not at Tae-an. U know proxy, agent, deputy or alter ego, or etc.

No wonder.
But I wonder who’s the owner of the cargo.
Any article revealed who’s the owner of the oil spilt.

]]> By: cm http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127370 cm Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:57:49 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127370 My understanding is that the article really meant the captain of the ship when it says "the owner of the ship". I thought that was pretty obvious. I also read from another source that the ship was requested to move an hour and a half before the barge broke way, in which they gave no response back. My understanding is that the article really meant the captain of the ship when it says “the owner of the ship”. I thought that was pretty obvious. I also read from another source that the ship was requested to move an hour and a half before the barge broke way, in which they gave no response back.

]]> By: gbevers http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127352 gbevers Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:36:50 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127352 Nothing about this incident seems weird to you Brendon? So it is against the law for the owner of a ship, not the captain, to not respond to an emergency call from the Korean Coastal Command Center? Why would the Command Center contact the owner of the vessel instead of the captain? What could the owner have done in such a situation? From what I understand, the Koreans did get in touch with the captain of the Hong Kong registered vessel, but he did not have time to take evasive action. He was anchored where he was told to anchor by Korean authorities. I think the Korean government is unfairly trying to shift the blame for their part in the screw up to the foreign vessel owner. And, no, I do not know anything about shipping and very little about the law. Brendon, is your law firm involved in this case in some way? Nothing about this incident seems weird to you Brendon? So it is against the law for the owner of a ship, not the captain, to not respond to an emergency call from the Korean Coastal Command Center?

Why would the Command Center contact the owner of the vessel instead of the captain? What could the owner have done in such a situation?

From what I understand, the Koreans did get in touch with the captain of the Hong Kong registered vessel, but he did not have time to take evasive action. He was anchored where he was told to anchor by Korean authorities.

I think the Korean government is unfairly trying to shift the blame for their part in the screw up to the foreign vessel owner. And, no, I do not know anything about shipping and very little about the law.

Brendon, is your law firm involved in this case in some way?

]]> By: R. Elgin http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127350 R. Elgin Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:28:54 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127350 No, I do not have experience in shipping other than renting a container, Brendon. It is only that the wording in the article did not make much sense to me, thus I was wondering if this was just another translation gone berserk or some strange version of Korean traffic law. No, I do not have experience in shipping other than renting a container, Brendon. It is only that the wording in the article did not make much sense to me, thus I was wondering if this was just another translation gone berserk or some strange version of Korean traffic law.

]]> By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127333 Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:05:47 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127333 I just have to ask, Mr. Elgin, if you have any experience in the shipping industry to be able to make the call that "this is weird". Seems pretty normal to me. I just have to ask, Mr. Elgin, if you have any experience in the shipping industry to be able to make the call that “this is weird”. Seems pretty normal to me.

]]> By: SomeguyinKorea http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/comment-page-1/#comment-127321 SomeguyinKorea Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:23:02 +0000 http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/01/03/an-auto-accident-at-sea/#comment-127321 It looks like the investigation is a train wreck. ;) It looks like the investigation is a train wreck. ;)

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