Make yourself heard.
Oh, and damn, is BioShock spooky. Brilliant stuff, though — who’d have thought of basing a video game on an Ayn Rand novel.
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Why do people yell out first?
Why do people shout out first?
Well, somehow I got caught in a strange double posting.
Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone out here in the blogosphere!
The last month of the year has been really, really rough, so I’m sleeping in. Please keep the noise level to a minimum.
Bioshock: the game “requires you to think every time you pull the trigger.” That doesn’t sound like fun.
With the Unicorns ceasing to exist the 8th KBO franchise needs a new name.
How about coming over and voting in our “Let’s Name the New Korean Baseball Team” poll?
http://eastwindupchronicle.com/?p=951#more-951
Yellow Sand at 522! Holy Sheet!
http://www.seoul.amedd.army.mi.....efault.asp
Nice, I knew leaving to ski in the Alps for my 2 month winter vacation was a good idea. Wasn’t the yellow sand at around 2000 a couple years back?
I think I was the first person to sing bioshock’s praises here at the hole. Glad to see you’re enjoying it Rob. What have you decided to do with the little orphan girls? Have you gotten the pleasure of meeting Andrew Ryan yet? Which plasmids are your favorites? Dish, if you would.
What’s the deal with the Yellow Sand? Are you sure that’s accurate? It’s only December - Yellow Sand season is in March. Well, it must be that global warming has allowed some of that normally frozen sand to thaw out and blow over here ahead of schedule. And, I’d been enjoying our warmer than usual winter. I guess there are some downsides as well to warm winters.
High wind and heavy snow tonight is forecast for my province.
I hope you are staying warm and free from the “downsides” tonight. Buckle up!
The gods have smiled upon my Podunk town. A formerly closed restaurant is going to re-open as a Thai restaurant and Asian market! Yippee! No more 2.5 hr. roundtrips to Grand Mart to load up on kim, bitter melon, lemon grass, galangal, curry leaves, and chives. Now if only we had a Trader Joe’s.
Great, Sonagi - now we’ll NEVER get you in to sample the delights of DC!
Praise the (g)od(s) of gourmet food. Straight to Hell with
Trader Joe, blasphemer that he is! “Long live cuisine!”, my battle cry.
For the language teachers out there, here’s an idea that I use to help students of all ages see the importance of learning more than one language in this world of ours. I integrate the series The Amazing Race Asia into my lesson plans. Last season there was one a contestant from South Korea who made it all the way to the final three. This season, while there are no South Korean contestants, the program makes its way to South Korea for a couple of episodes. The first of which airs this Wednesday at 9 pm on AXN here. The episodes are subtitled in Korean.
The contestants, chosen from all over South and Eastern Asia, except for China, use English as the language they communicate in. A must for logistical purposes alone when you have contestants applying from India, Thailand, Japan, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, South Korea, and the Philippines.
English is not the first language for many of the contestants, so it is a great tool to demonstrate the usefulness of mastering more than one language in traveling the world and the more doors one is able to open with these skills.
Here’s a link for anyone interested. By the way, one of this season’s contestants is deaf (hearing impaired) which really brings up some interesting discussions in my classes about succeeding in life no matter the difficulties that one may have to overcome if they are willing to work hard and not give up at the first sign of trouble.
http://amazing-race-asia.axn-a.....ynopsis/1/
Here’s something to make you pine for the cogent analysis of an OhMyNews peacenik or a Korea Times guest columnist:
December 27, 2007 (LPAC)–Lyndon LaRouche today offered the following initial assessment of the assassination of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto. Mrs. Bhutto was killed by a suicide assassin at the conclusion of a campaign rally in Rawalpindi, Pakistan.
LaRouche characterized the assassination as a “chaos operation.” LaRouche explained that he sees the British hand all over it, referring to recent revelations of MI6 operators negotiating with Taliban leaders in Afghanistan (see link). The British, LaRouche elaborated, are operating with many groups–in all factions, on all sides of the conflict. They work towards both parallel and contradictory objectives.
LaRouche argued that the motives behind the Bhutto assassination are global, not regional. There are factions of the British oligarchy who are out to make the entire global situation into an unwholesome mess. This has more to do with the global financial crash than anything internal to the politics of Southwest or South Asia, he continued. There are factions in the City of London and allied financial oligarchy, who understand that the present financial system is doomed–is already collapsing at an accelerating rate. They see this as end game, and are committed to determining who survives, and who goes down. They are using terrorism as a weapon of chaos, to secure their survival out of the collapse.
LaRouche explained that he is not referring to the House of Windsor. The issue is the London-centered Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy, which is out to consolidate their imperial control over the world, under conditions of a total breakdown crisis. The issue is: Who will come out of the crash intact?
To pursue the precise British assets behind the Bhutto assassination, the appropriate question is: Which British assets in the South Asia region totally hate the prospect of any rational outcome to the situation? That is the starting point.
where is all the snow that was forecast?????
#15
Its a fairly accurate analysis. LaRouche, remember, predicted back in January 2001 that the Bush administration would oversee a ‘terrorist attack’ and implement a crisis-management-type government that would drive the US to the brink of economic ruin.
From wiki: ” LaRouche’s research staff was described by Norman Bailey, a former senior staffer of the National Security Council, as “one of the best private intelligence services in the world.”
2008 would mark the 20th anniversary of the 1988 Seoul Olympics.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4YyvEXNTlvQ
from the same site,
Korea’s Per head national income
2007 - 20,070 dollars (presumption)
2006 - 18,319 dollars
2005 - 16,500 dollars
2004 - 14,162 dollars
2003 - 12,720 dollars
2002 - 11,499 dollars
2001 - 10,160 dollars
2000 - 10,841 dollars
1999 - 9,438 dollars
1998 - 7,355 dollars
1997 - 11,176 dollars
1996 - 12,197 dollars
1995 - 11,432 dollars
1994 - 9,459 dollars
1993 - 8,177 dollars
1992 - 7,527 dollars
1991 - 7,105 dollars
1990 - 6,147 dollars
1989 - 5,418 dollars
1988 - 4,435 dollars
1987 - 3,321 dollars
1986 - 2,643 dollars
1985 - 2,309 dollars
1984 - 2,257 dollars
1983 - 2,076 dollars
1982 - 1,893 dollars
1981 - 1,800 dollars
1980 - 1,645 dollars
1979 - 1,676 dollars
1978 - 1,431 dollars
1977 - 1,034 dollars
1976 - 818 dollars
1975 - 602 dollars
1974 - 554 dollars
1973 - 401 dollars
1972 - 320 dollars
1971 - 290 dollars
1970 - 254 dollars
1953 - 67 dollars
Notice the Cold War balance of lip service, with the Moscow Bear, the American Eagle, and the Korean Hodori.
Moscow Bear? American Eagle? I’d hate to defile anything with that, but I’d like you all to check out someone who I think is seriously demented in the head. But, from time to time, he makes some sharp parodies.
http://www.jiryonghouse.com/ne.....year01.gif
http://www.jiryonghouse.com/ne.....year02.gif
Read the rest of his site, and you’ll understand why I think he’s the devil in the flesh.
I wanna ask, I can make out Kim Dae Jung, Chung Dong Young. Who’s the guy in the glasses with the Nike hat? Is that the Min No Dang dude?
http://www.jiryonghouse.com/dream/images/d04.gif
Again, this guy is quite sick, but creative, I give him that.
Creative wise, he’s on a whole new level.
Interesting fact: today marks 10th year since death sentence was last carried out.
This is wonderful… We’ve got a Ron Paul supporter and a LaRouche supporter. All we need now is a member of the Manson Family, and the nut trifecta will be complete.
^ in South Korea, that is.
#20
eat poo.
I have a problem with the way some information has been continuously presented. This is in reference to the destruction of Gyeongbuk Palace (경북궁) the first time. When I read Samual Hawley’s The Imjin War, he wrote (IIRC)that upset local Koreans burned it down because of the king leaving Seoul. However, I don’t believe he cited from where he collected this information. In contrast, I have seen numerous writings from Korean books (this example is from From Excavation to Exhibition) that describe it as quoted, “Most of these original buildings were burnt down during the Imjin Wars which broke out as a result of the Japanese invasion of 1592, and it was only in the 19th century when Joseon was under the rule of King Gojong that the palace was fully restored, only to be severely disrupted and run down again by Japanese imperialists in the subsequent period of Japanese colonial rule.”
Hawley even claimed that the gates to Seoul were left open for the Japanese to enter.
Personally, I think the wording is deliberate and aims to link two separate events together using the second as proof for the first. I am annoyed because the wording of it is so common in different books that it is like a memo went around explaining exactly the wording to use.
The Korean version of the text from the book reads”…임진왜란으로 소실된 것을 고종대에 재건하였으나 일제 강점기 동안 많은 전각들이 철거되고 조선총독부 청사 등 식민통치와 관련된 건물들이 그 자리를 대신하는 등의 수난을 겪었다.”
If what Hawley writes is true, Koreans need to write more accurate descriptions of less noble events. Examples like this could help strengthen Korea’s arguments to have more accurate textbooks (or fiction) in other countries. Set the example and be the leader.
Comparing those movements to the the murderous Manson family is brutally unfair, invidious and inaccurate.
Surely, Santa Claus is the analogous belief system — and it has the advantage of being inoffensive.
that’s right slim. watch out for those fanatical turbans and their evil machinations. we’ve all seen the CNN videos of them training on monkey bars. pretty deadly stuff.
they pulled off 9/11 - even managed to make your air defense stand down for two hours. as if that weren’t a masterly demonstration of their sheer bravura, on 7/7 they bombed public transport in the heart of London - while a crisis-management team, hired weeks in advance to be at those precise locations and anticipate those exact scenarios stoodby dumbfounded.
so now these wiley extremists have snuck a gunman through Pakistani security forces and taken out Bhutto, a major threat to the ISI-CIA alliance. Who’s next? with your profound understanding of Al Qaeda’s role in world events and your realist approach to things - I fear it may be you slim!
be on your guard! fighting!
#25
All a part of the global conspiracy my friend… If not for bored college students and YouTube, the thousands (actually, it must be millions) of people who are involved in the conspiracy would be getting off scot free.
#24
Oh come on… Wacky fringe group, wacky fringe group, wacky fringe group. Santa Claus (far as I know) has never had a personality cult built up around him. But heck, if I’m being offensive, I’ll come up with a better comparison… Lessee… Star Trek fan-fiction writers? Furries? Tom Cruise?
Zonath, you sound like Daniel Pipes.
I think LaRouche described people like you and Pipes quite well:
“The pervasive fraud in Pipes’ dogma, is that he evades the fact, that the primary issue is whether a certain type of, or particular report of a conspiracy is truthful, or not. On this account, he perpetrates the widely practiced fraud of petitio principii: asserting that the mere evidence that a conspiracy is implied in an argument of a case, is presumptive proof that that argument is therefore axiomatically false, without further consideration”
Actually, I’m a great believer in conspiracies. They’re a dominant driving force in world history (most revolutions start out as conspiracies, f’rinstance.) I just don’t think that the same government that brought you the Abu Ghraib scandal is frankly all-powerful (or even competent) enough to effectively cover up a conspiracy involving possibly tens of thousands of people. It’s a great sort of security blanket to believe in. After all, I’d rather not believe that any nut with a box cutter (or a commercial pilot license) can bring a building crashing down, but hey… here we are.
keep in mind that a government is not a homogenous entity - it is made up of contending factions who represent special interests. In terms of whether Islamic hijackers were solely responsible for the 9/11 atrocities, I believe, logically, that the data must warrant the claim - otherwise the claim is false. Show me the data - and i’ll believe 19 hijackers produced the results of that day - including the disappearance of 2 airliners, the stand-down of air-defense, and the near free-fall collapse of three steel skyscrapers.
The above data warrants the much more likely claim that Cheney, Rumsfeld and people in command positions at military and intelligence agencies carried out these attacks.
That they are too inept to cover it up is an a priori argument and can therefore be dismissed .
Hey, if you’re not going to believe the interpretation of hundreds of experts, a Congressional commission, and various other elements in the non-homogenous government, what could I possibly say to convince you?
surely these experts have data to support their claim…? don’t you find it odd that your world-view relies entirely on federal authority - and that when called upon to produce simple data supporting your 19-hijacker theory, you have no choice but to be evasive?
I don’t believe in magic. If you contend a plane crashed into the Pentagon and another into a field, show me the wreckage. Here: I’ll show you the non-wreckage of flight 93: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc
Give me one reason as to why standard air-defense protocols were not executed that day. Or as to how jet fuel caused molten steel to flow from the towers and collect in pools at ground zero burning for weeks after?
since neither you nor your hundreds of experts can answer to these, the Al Qaida claim falls apart.
Brent-
Another forum that might also be interested in your points about historical accuracy would be the Korean Studies Discussion List.
http://koreaweb.ws/ks
I’m sure you’ll find several interested scholars over in that e-mailing list.
“Americans today are seeing the same sheepish submissiveness that characterized Germany after the burning of the Reichstag.” Ray McGovern
“There are few things as odd as the calm, superior indifference with which I and those like me watched the beginnings of the Nazi revolution in Germany, as if from a box at the theater…Perhaps the only comparably odd thing is the way that now, years later….” Sebastian Haffner
EARLY WARNING SIGNS OF FASCISM:
-Powerful and continuing nationalism
-Disdain for human rights
-Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
-Supremacy of the military
-Rampant sexism
-Controlled mass media
-Obsession with national security
-Religion and government intertwined
-Corporate power protected
-Labor power suppressed
-Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
-Obsession with crime and punishment
-Rampant cronyism and corruption
-Fraudulent elections
I wouldn’t say they are too inept to cover it up. I’d say they are too inept to carry it out in the first place. My father always used to tell me a joke. “How do we know the CIA wasn’t involved in the assassination of Allende in Chile? He’s dead isn’t he?”
@#23:
I knew Samuel Hawley while he was writing his book. He has a passion for Korean history and worked very hard to write the first account of the Imjin War in English. Despite the fact that he grew up in Korea, he was not fluent in Korean at the time of writing the book, for he was a graduate of SFS. He relied on Koreans to help him research and translate texts. An Amazon.com review by an Asian history scholar noted that the book was mostly a compilation of translations with no real new insights.
The late Dr. James Palais had reading knowledge of Korean, Japanese, and classical Chinese. He was a great contributor to English language history materials on Korea, especially since he did not always agree with Korean historians.
‘Incompetence Theory’ is an old hand - its something actively projected in order to deflect culpability. Its probably why Bush Jr. is an ideal figurehead for this nasty agenda.
cinemagauche = loon
That would be interesting. Meeting dubya with his guard down, the veil cast away and he’s suddenly this fairly competent, lucid actor, willing to sacrifice his name and reputation so that he can…? What is it he’s trying to accomplish again?
cinemagauche, I’ve asked you this before, but please explain this little magic trick for me: If Flight 93 didn’t crash into that field, what did? Also - and you have to admit this is a tricky one - where did it crash/land/teleport to if it didn’t crash into that field? Same goes for the “disappearing” plane that supposedly didn’t slam into the Pentagon and kill over a hundred people inside the building. Got any theories to enlighten any of us naive suckers as to how the powers that be pulled it off? Enquiring minds want to know. I want to believe!
and mcnut’s my loony bun..
oh mcnut, press the poo button. I’ll be so happy.
http://www.poobutton.com/
the third time’s the charm!
Let’s change the subject, shall we? How many of you fellows would have been as compliant as Robin Garrison?
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/s.....amp;page=1
#39 well I’ve looked at the aerial photos and video for Shanksville and the empty smouldering crater is more consistent with a missile strike. No fuselage - a few scattered scraps. anyways whatever it was wasn’t a 757.
as to where the commercial jet went, since there’s no physical record of it crashing I’d venture to say it was landed at a cordoned off airport strip or military runway. we are left to speculation and I wouldn’t really know.
Same with the Pentagon. more consistent with a missile strike. no wing damage on the building. no wreckage to speak of. where’d the plane go? its a question we and the media should be pushing the government to answer. why no video of the crash released - surely one of the most video-surveillanced buildings in the world would have captured the plane crash..? 85 videos from cameras at nearby businesses were confiscated minutes afterwards and have not been released or returned.
Odd list of passengers on flight 77 also: preponderance of Navy personnel and people in the armed services..
what about the many eye witnesses on the highways and heavily trafficked roads near the pentagon who saw the plane come in and hit the building
oh yeah i am sure Men in Black showed up with those memory wipers
you know the ones that flash the bright light
Since you foreigners are in Korea which just elected a Christian elder as the president of the country, maybe it is a time for you to learn about true Christianity which centers on the person of Jesus, what He said, what He did and what He promised.
Visit the Full Gospel Church in Yeyido. They have good English translation and special helpers for foreign-born individuals.
Come to know Jesus as He is in the land of His rule, Korea.
http://news.joins.com/article/.....l?ctg=1000
그가 일 이상으로 중시하는 것이 신앙 외에 또 있을까요? 그는 어머니로부터 받은 가장 큰 은혜가 ‘하나님의 사랑을 알게 해준 것’이라고 말합니다. 모태신앙입니다.
Lee MyengBak puts his faith above his busy schedule. He thanks his mom most of all for letting him know of God’s love. He was born in a Christian family.
man only if al gore would have won the election in 2000 and none of this ever would have happend right?
oh wait thats another conspiracy all together just full of facts and evidence to support how those Nazi’s planned and stole the white house and then could execute their diabolic plan to make it seem that islamic nut cases want to kill americans by destoying the WTC and brainwashing us into going to war and hating everyone.
damn its fun when left wing loons open their stupid mouths!
#43 & 46
eye-witnesses saw a plane come in but there are discrepencies as to what type of plane it was - some thought they saw a passenger plane, others a white military-type plane. there’s no denying a plane flew toward the pentagon - and over it. no plane visible to the eye crashed there.
mcnut, go back and finish grade school. it’s not too late.
#44
so he got the Christian vote. that explains why no one I know voted for him and yet he won. Roh got the internet vote. Bak gets the church vote. Jesus turns in his 2000 year old grave.
Not at all. Mostly because it’s not actually my ‘world view’ since I don’t base my life around an event that happened six years ago. I’ll also be entirely honest with you, rather than trying to rebut you, and being shot down — I don’t have the data you are looking for. You see, I have not dedicated any sizable portion of my time to poring over every fact, photo, and rumor to emerge from the events of September 11, 2001. I am willing to bet that any fact I could come up with would be swiftly rebutted, by the simple fact that I have not taken the time to make myself an expert in this field, and you obviously have. This is why I try not to fall into the trap of arguing with conspiracy nuts — It’s difficult to argue with the obsessed without similarly sharing that obsession. That burning sense of self-satisfaction? That’s just you having more information than most of the people you talk to, not you being right. Unless it burns when you pee, in which case it could be gonorrhea, and you should get it checked out. Like I said before, if all the actual experts can’t convince you, I’m sure there’s nothing I could say that would.
As for relying on federal authority for information… Why not? After all, we all have to get our information from somewhere, and I would rather take mine from the experts than some nut on YouTube. Call me old-fashioned.
Stuff that movies are made out of.
http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00972.html
#42 cinemag: “…we are left to speculation and I wouldn’t really know…
At last! A comment by cg that I can endorse unreservedly.
Have a see at this.
http://www.youku.com
At least change the freaking name to something else, this is just too freaking obvious. How hard is it to come up with a new name?
Good News, indeed.
Baduk, how would you compare/rate Lee Myung-bak and George W. Bush as Christians?
dogbertt,
Bush had (still do) Cheney scandal and Lee has BBK mess. I am not condoning either one.
Christians are not “snow whites” or “perfect people”. So, I won’t judge these politicians. Their world is much more complex than ours.
Yet, Christians are heading toward the right direction. If you doubt,just look at Parkistan. When entire Europe and the US abandon Jesus, that is what you will get.
http://news.chosun.com/site/da.....00032.html
Alreday Korea is heading toward the right direction. This scholar is blaming, for the first time, that USSR is the one to blame for splitting Korea, not the US.
I told you that Korea from now on would become the most pro-American country on the globe. More so than England, Canada or Japan.
Last ten years were lost years for Korea. Korea could have become more internationalized, making English as an official language. Yet, Commies stopped these actions and held Koreans back.
Last ten years should be called “Dark years” or “Commie years” or “Years of oppression”.
Lee overthrew this Commie regime without bloodshed. Actually Korean people did it. They could not take any more of Rho’s pro-North and anti-Amrerican stance.
Most Koreans love America and what it stands for, freedom and prosperity.
Was that one of the “Three Kingdoms”, along with Leestan and Kimstan?
It would be awesome if Korea could be a free and prosperous society, instead of Koreans having to emigrate to the US to enjoy those rights without other Koreans keeping them down.
‘i like how you chose kiseang for your avatar. it mores suits you than the one of Yi Sun Shin…’ mins paraphrased from another post.
it’s funny what we see, isn’t it? when i look at the avatar of ‘hwang jin yi’, i see some attractive koreans in beautiful hanbok. you, on the other hand, see some whores and their johns. i suppose that’s the difference between me and you, mins. my view of the world isn’t so self-righteous.
#58.
I put that comment up one week ago and you respond to it right now? Jeez, pawi you must be bored.
Now that you bring up the subject of differences, there is a big difference between you and me. I call things as I see them, you on the other hand, impart your own twisted spin on things. Lets take the case of your avatar. I didn’t mention whores and johns, but you in the true pawi style mentioned them.
Now, we all know that Adm. Yi Sun-sin is a honorable and respectable man. So it would be shameful for someone like you to use his image in an avatar. All in all, it was a good idea changing your avatar.
Some old school goodness,
Noksaekjidae 준비 없는 이별
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO2s0LDv7sc
#40,
Fuck, you gotta warn us about that not being safe for work or kids. I was almost tempted to reduce the screen to hide the banners and ask my son to come over and click on the button after the second ‘click’.
#58,
So, you’re romanticizing sexual slavery, I see.
We could never see AFN in Venice, Italy. There’s a US military base there, and you can see AFN on the base, but the US military is not allowed to broadcast the programs into Venice. That’s the agreement the US military has, and has always had, with the US networks. It was always illegal for the US military to broadcast AFN into Korea, and AFRTS always knew that.
And yes, I still love you.
And, I agree with Baduk; we should all go to the Full Gospel Church.
Also, I think Willie G should have used a flash when he was assigned to take pictures of Harpeau at Phillies.
#61 sorry. the link was specifically for mcnut whom I assumed was unemployed and chronically single. still, the homepage with its adult banners should be warning enough not to invite your kids to check it out.
#49 so basically what you’re saying is you’re quite happy being ignorant, that it’s my fault for informing myself, and that I should just have faith in the State and nameless ‘experts’ and go back to watching the ball game with a bag of cheetos in my crotch.
as to: “we all have to get our information from somewhere, and I would rather take mine from the experts than some nut on YouTube. Call me old-fashioned.”
I think I’ll just call you plain dumb. As to what qualifies as ‘expert’ in your wacky world - i have no idea. FYI, Youtube is a medium for video sharing and you will find everything from the BBC to canine defecation. The youtube clip I offered you was mainstream (FOX & NBC) coverage of the crash site - so I’m not sure what ‘nut’ on Youtube you are talking about and will just take your remark as more evidence that you are just plain stoopid.
‘So, you’re romanticizing sexual slavery, I see.’ someguyinkorea
how do you feel about pocahantes?
jefferson? jackson?
you’re reading too much into this. i just liked the picture. the drama itself was boring. i’ll leave the huffing and puffing to you and mins.
“how do you feel about pocahantes?
jefferson? jackson?
you’re reading too much into this. i just liked the picture. the drama itself was boring. i’ll leave the huffing and puffing to you and mins.”
That’s it, answer with a tu quoque.
I find it offensive that you would suggest that Pocahontas (real spelling) was a sex slave.
The Jeffersons was a great TV show and Samuel L. Jackson is one of my favorite actors…so I don’t see the connection it has with sex slavery.
PS. What did you think I would say? I’m not American. Slavery never was as widespread in Canada as in the US, so your tu quoque really missed the mark.
There was an estimated 4092 slaves throughout Canadian history (from 1604 (arrival of the French) until 1833)…roughly 2000 of which were brought by American British Loyalists in 1783 (not that Aboriginals didn’t practice slavery themselves before the arrival of the Europeans). The Canadian governments (yes, there used to be two Canadas) began passing laws to stop slavery in 1793, probably because of the way the Loyalists treated their slaves.
Slaves, by the way, could legally marry free people in New France (39 such unions are on record). One of my friends is a descendant of these unions, a black man and white woman.
I won’t get into the 30000 to 100000 American slaves who came seeking freedom in Canada.
So, you tell me about Jackson and Jefferson.
cinemagauche wow you are absolutely amazingly a strange but stupid MF!
here you go dumbF–k
your wackjob claims and the reality of what happened all in one
http://www.popularmechanics.co.....tml?page=1
AFN Korea was broadcasting over the free airwaves long before cable television was even invented.
You know about broadcasting — you know this.
I find it amusing that the “extremist psychos” wing of the regular commentators have been pounding on each other with wack-job rhetoric for four days now.
Normally I have to read ESL Cafe for this sort of freak-show entertainment.
2-3 days max for me but whos counting
i am done with him/her
#70,
Yeah, it looks like you’ve missed my stabilizing influence.
mcnut how laughable… so your ‘experts’ are Popular Mechanics.. owned by Hearst corportation, the father of ‘yellow journalism”…? The magazine promotes new weapons technology and has a cozy relationship with the Pentagon - so cozy that the senior researcher of the link you sent me was none other than Benjamin Chertoff, cousin of Michael Chertoff, Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
basically it tackles easily disputed fringe theories, while ignoring hard evidence. I would suggest you read peer-reviewed academic journals such as : http://www.journalof911studies.com/
but that might be a bit beyond your tabloid diet and vocabulary of primitive grunting sounds.
#70 while there no doubt are some “extremist psychos” on this board, the real freaks are the people who think themselves ensconced comfortably in some delusional middle-ground. yours will be a rude awakening.
@ cinemagauche
‘Mainstream media shouldn’t be fully trusted and people watching it should always keep a healthy skepticism.’
I can dig that.
‘There’s more to 9/11 than meets the eye.’
That’s cool. Little paranoid for my taste, but w/e.
‘So, instead of listening to mainstream media, let’s listen to conspiracy theorists on youtube.’
… wha?!
ahhhh, don’t like tu cocky arguments? too bad. here’s another: when i see folks like you whine about geisha in the same way you whine about kiseang, i might take you seriously.
‘i’m from canada.’ someguy
where’s ‘canada’? is that that place where people live in igloos? lol.
@64
Absolutely. After all, we all have to be ignorant about something, and why should I spend time ‘educating myself’ about things which I am not interested in, and have absolutely no bearing on my day-to-day life when I’m so busy learning about things that do (stuff like the Uniform Commercial Code, which affects the day-to-day lives of millions of Americans, where 9/11 basically only still affects obsessed psychos like you.)
Absolutely, if that’s what you would otherwise be inclined to do. After all, if the government is as heterogenous as you say, then at least some of the people in it likely have your best interests in mind, and are diligently working to expose the conspiracy. Amazing though that the government line on what happened on 9/11 has been so homogenous in such a heterogenous body. Don’t worry though, I’m sure the truth will come out very soon, with or without your rather dubious ‘help’.
But anyway, I can see that we’re obviously not going to come to a consensus here, what with me being so ignorant about 9/11, and you being so ignorant about everything else, so stop talking to me. Seriously.
#75,
Geishas? Why is that relevant?
Canada is easy to find on the map. Look for a country that’s about 100 times larger than South Korea.
#76
since its a subject in which you openly confess you are neither informed nor interested, one can’t help but think it rather moronic of you to comment on it.
your above thoughts are an insult to democracy and symptomatic of why the US is going down the toilet.
in any case, stick to what you know, be civil with others, and you’ll avoid these humiliations. this entirely pointless exchange could have been bypassed if you’d taken my advice at post #22
“I would suggest you read peer-reviewed academic journals such as : http://www.journalof911studies.com/
but that might be a bit beyond your tabloid diet and vocabulary of primitive grunting sounds.”
The Journal of 9/11 Studies, the “peer-reviewed academic journal” you suggested, reminded me of The Onion, but minus the humor.
And, I guess it goes without saying that anybody winning a Pulitzer Prize is just as tainted as articles printed in Hearst-owned Popular Mechanics, considering the awards were started by Joseph Pulitzer (who, by the way, you failed to credit as a co-inventor of “Yellow Journalism”).
“in any case, stick to what you know, be civil with others, and you’ll avoid these humiliations.”
This from the guy who responds to others by claiming their “thoughts are an insult to democracy” and posting links to defecation vids…
“Canada is easy to find on the map. Look for a country that’s about 100 times larger than South Korea.”
It’s also one of those countries that has friends.
Cinemadouche:
Your self-contradictory, illogical statements are the reason why we make so much fun of you here, and the reason why you’re so representative of your overly paranoid, deluded ‘movement’.
Yeah, you make a lot of sense, wacko.
@80 yeah, that defecation link was… especially since there was no warning about not being work-safe… uncalled for. not too professional there, cg.
Though, it was appropriate that you (cg), arguably the biggest spewer of poo in the MH of late, posted the link.
#82
taking things out of context in an attempt to sling mud.. eh? If you’d bothered to read my full comment you’d know I also stated why the substance of the Pop Mech feature was of little value, namely its straw-man tactics.
#83 the link leads to a work-safe homepage. where you go from there is your own business. besides what else were you expecting from a button labelled ‘poo’?
I’m just chagrined to learn that Nigel still hasn’t been murdered. What kind of lame conspiracy are these guys running over there at Illuminati Central?
#84… work-safe? without leaving that page or even scrolling, but just clicking on the cute poo-button to enjoy what looked like cute childish toilet humor, I was surprisingly shown naked people pooing on each other and rubbing it on themselves.
What else would one expect from a button labeled ‘poo’ you ask? Well, just about ANYTHING except hard-core fecal-themed p0rn, you jackass. Now, if you’d have courteously given a “NSFW” disclaimer, or if the button said, “push here to see a German Scheisse Video,” perhaps one should have expected it. Next time keep your hobbies to yourself.
Cinemadouche:
So pointing out the inherent contradiction in you attacking dismissiveness due to content and then dismissing something due to source is ‘taking things out of context to sling mud’? So sure, Popular Mechanics isn’t a well-respected, peer-reviewed journal with a long and impressive pedigree like the Journal of 9/11 Studies, but you seem equally dismissive of anything approaching analysis coming out of either the government, mainstream media, or even similarly-situated journals. Like I said before, you do seem really committed to the idea that the government is out to get you. I guess someone has to keep the tinfoil industry in business.
I see the lawyer’s started frothing again. I’d thought his fear of men in turbans had finally driven him underground. Don’t worry, B. The worldwide Al Qaeda terrorist network hasn’t quite established its base in Korea yet. But you never know. There are sleeper-cells and a Mosque in Itaewon.
Do “LaRouche” and “gauche” rhyme?
The MH is a virtual community, but sometimes I wonder what it would be like if all the contributors/characters got together for dinner or something. Who do you think would be easiest to pick out of the crowd? …aside from the obvious ones like Robert in his svelte hanbok and Nigel with his svelte aluminum foil hat and frequent looks over his shoulders.
Maybe Sonagi because she’d be the female who brought her own food?
pawi because he’d have hatred on his face and wreak of sexual frustration?
Mins because he’d be the the guy pawi was attacking for “being a race-traitor?” (No Mins, you aren’t.)
Obviously the Canadians would all be out back smoking pot together.
wkj because he’d be the one who shows up late because he had to finish that last game of starcraft (…in his parents’ basement …where he lives)?
Me, because of my stunning “moviestar looks?” (or so insists pawi.. thanks again for the good press buddy.)
Blueballs because he’d be the one ranting to a captive audience?
Aaronm because he’d be the guy without hair, and without a shirt?
Baduk, because of he’d be proselytizing?
King Baeksu, because of his sunglasses?
Andrew Jackson because he’d look just like his pic on his Korea Times pieces?
Brendon because he’d look like his avatar?
P.S. hope nobody (except the Hater and the Poo-lover) take any offense at what is meant as a light-hearted joke.
Yeah, it might be fun to have a MH gathering in Shinchon and see who turns up - although some might not like losing the veil of anonymity, and I’d hate to see a mass brawl break out. But it could be entertaining.
#87 the building collapses in less than 7 seconds. I guess they just don’t build them like they used to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-c-6qkbxd0
#90 not offended.
and hey, a little poo never hurt no one.
i’ll bet you wrote that just so you could say that, didn’t ya, cmm? ain’t my fault god passed you by when he was giving out good looks to your brothers. not all white guys can be good looking.
thank god for korea!
‘Aaronm because he’d be the guy without hair, and without a shirt?’
how do you know we wouldn’t mistake him for being you? lol.
btw…
‘hope nobody (except the Hater and the Poo-lover) take any offense at what is meant as a light-hearted joke.’ cmm
like i said, you wrote it just so you could write to me. lol. don’t think i don’t know it.
@93 what, now you say I’m not a handsome movie star? Quit playing games with my heart.
@94 nah, I didn’t write that just all that just so I could write to you. If I wanted to write that I think you are a Hater and sexually frustrated, I’d just write, “pawi, you are a hater and sexually frustrated.” But, I don’t have to make a special post for that. Besides, it’s implied in almost every post YOU write.
cmm, I never played Starcraft in my life.
Hard to believe, but true.
When I first saw it many, many, many years ago, it said TIME WASTER all over it.
I suppose you’re fugly in real life. My condolences.
“When I first saw it many, many, many years ago, it said TIME WASTER all over it.”
I find it quite ironic that you say that since you’re a NY Mets fan.
someguyinkorea, nice hit.
that one stings to the core.
I expect a pleasant surprise in 2008.
and, hey, Mr. Marmot, it appears the Yankees cheated in 2000.
I’m not like the majority of Koreans who grew up in Queens, though. I really AM a METS fan. Win or lose, to my grave, and forced upon my progeny…
@96 nail on the head. “Thank god for Korea.”
#98,
I’ll admit that I’ve owned a Mets cap…But, that’s just because I liked the orange on blue …Plus, I was rebelling against all the ‘LA Dodgers’ caps being worn at the time in Korea.
an afro-european in the white house?
jefferson’s legacy comes full circle.
dogbert’s worst nightmare.
I don’t have any problem with Barack Obama.