Comments on: Korean Westerns Coming to the Theatre Nearest You

By: bumfromkorea

bumfromkorea — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:37:50 +0000

“I’m done with you. Giving you yet another opportunity to demonstrate your intellectual fecklessness would be a waste of time.”

Ah, dang it! And I was so excited about Sperwer giving me opportunity to demonstrate my, uh, ‘intellectual fecklessness’ one more time. I guess displaying one’s gigantic ego is one way of avoiding actually addressing other people’s point.

By: abcdefg

abcdefg — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:33:17 +0000

I guess you didn’t do too well on reading comprehenion tests, eh Nutizen Kim? I didn’t say Kurosawa copies 1960s spaghetti Westerns, but that he was inspired by Westerns. They predate the ’60s, moron.

This is hillarious.

You wrote that Kurosawa “copies” Westerns. “Copies” denotes a much more particular relationship between two films than “inspired” does — especially in this thread. It’s proper for readers dealing with the context you provided - “copies”, “Kurosawa”, and “Westerns”- to restrict themselves to a particular set of films, ie, those films that made be said to be copies of each other, and Kurosawa’s films and all those 60s-era Spaghetti Western ripoffs would be it. Either way you’re wrong. Kurosawa may have been inspired by older Western, but he didn’t copy from them.

By: Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog)

Brendon Carr (Korea Law Blog) — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:05:47 +0000

I guess you didn’t do too well on reading comprehenion tests, eh Nutizen Kim? I didn’t say Kurosawa copies 1960s spaghetti Westerns, but that he was inspired by Westerns. They predate the ’60s, moron.

Argh! You beat me to it!

In fact, the very name “spaghetti Western” hints at the possibility that the Italian films were inspired by some pre-existing art form. Can’t exactly place my finger on what it might be…

By: Sperwer

Sperwer — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:27:38 +0000

If this film turns out to be of Kurosawa - who first copied US westerns for his samurai films…

This statement alone proves beyond doubt that Sperwer is an first-class idiot. I’m curious to know how he’d explain how the Kurosawa films, mostly made in the 1940-50s, are copies of the 1960s era spaghetti westerns.

I guess you didn’t do too well on reading comprehenion tests, eh Nutizen Kim? I didn’t say Kurosawa copies 1960s spaghetti Westerns, but that he was inspired by Westerns. They predate the ’60s, moron.

By: Netizen Kim

Netizen Kim — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:55:34 +0000

The Italian “spaghetti” Western A Fistful of Dollars, directed by Sergio Leone and starring Clint Eastwood, was pirated from Kurosawa’s Yojimbo, starring Toshiro Mifune. In a letter to Leone, which the Italian director wrongly considered a compliment, Kurosawa wrote: “Signor Leone - I have just had the change to see your film. It’s a very fine film, but it is my film.” Yojimbo was remade in 1996 by Walter Hill as a gangster story Last Man Standing, starring Bruce Willis. Hill’s film, which was set in the 1930s, brought the story to the United States and in time close to Dashiell Hammett’s novel Red Harvest (1929), which perhaps had inspired Kurosawa. Sanjuro (1962), based on the story ‘Hibi Heian’ by Shugoro Yamamoto, was a lighweight sequel to Yojimbo, which made Stanley Kauffman ask in New York Herald-Tribune: “One wonders how the people who could make a film so superbly could be content to make one so shallow.”

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/kuros.htm

By: Netizen Kim

Netizen Kim — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:43:19 +0000

regarding Toshiro Mifune from “Interesting Motherfuckers”

http://www.forbisthemighty.com.....mifune.htm

By: abcdefg

abcdefg — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:42:56 +0000

I hate it when humanities, knitting degree, shmucks start pontificating logic like they own it, and even more so when they pepper their posts with Latin, as if the shallow culture criticism and douchebag, Christmas-time, malignance weren’t bad enough.

Anyway, Kim Ji-woon is a terrific director. Not only is his “Tale of Two Sisters” being remade, but another film of his, “The Quiet Family,” was remade years ago by Takashi Miike.

Kim’s films don’t deserve the disservice of being associated with anything outside of his individual output. This principle may be very difficult for the nonentities ’stuck in Korea’™ to grasp, but oh how very important that principle is.

BTW, as I understand it, Kim’s upcoming film isn’t supposed to be a remake and it’s not a rip-off. I’m looking forward to it. I like its premise. Kim also directed “A Bittersweet Life,” which was nutritiously cool, if you ask me. A fine film.

By: Netizen Kim

Netizen Kim — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:32:55 +0000

Takashi Mikke’s SUKIYAKI WESTERN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S61ySyaJQSE

By: Netizen Kim

Netizen Kim — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:27:01 +0000

If this film turns out to be of Kurosawa - who first copied US westerns for his samurai films…

This statement alone proves beyond doubt that Sperwer is an first-class idiot. I’m curious to know how he’d explain how the Kurosawa films, mostly made in the 1940-50s, are copies of the 1960s era spaghetti westerns.

BTW, you might find something a little bit more original to say, good or bad, about a Korean film than accusing it of copy-catism (like that’s never been said a zillion times already) if you’ve actually seen it first.

By: user-81

user-81 — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:35:59 +0000

“I’ve seen a lot of Korean movies and about 50% of the time it’s a like a pre-cogntion experience, until I realize the name of the American or European film the plot of which, and often a lot of the actual dialogue from which, has simply been ripped off.”

I didn’t think it was as high as 50%. Can you give some recent examples?

“Now I guess I can hold my breath since it won’t be long before one of the usual suspects attempts to justify this with that old tu quoque “Hollywood does remakes and revivals too”, to which in addition to noting the logical fallacy, the answer is “and comparatively what percentage of Western films fall into that category.””

What percentage would you say it is?