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		<title>By: nambangui horangi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nambangui horangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

If this had appeared earlier, it could have saved a lot of speculation, but it does support some of the points made above. Worth a read:

http://news.msn.co.kr/article/read.html?cate_code=1400&#38;article_id=200712151812131400</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>If this had appeared earlier, it could have saved a lot of speculation, but it does support some of the points made above. Worth a read:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.msn.co.kr/article/read.html?cate_code=1400&amp;article_id=200712151812131400" rel="nofollow">http://news.msn.co.kr/article/.....1812131400</a></p>
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		<title>By: davelee</title>
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		<dc:creator>davelee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree with #73 the most.  All peoples of all societies.. All the disharmony between different peoples are because everyone is trying to one-up each other.  

If a country is entirely submissive, don't care that they are spit on, and let other countries dominate them, they will probably be liked more so than the competitive country that is constantly trying to be better than you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree with #73 the most.  All peoples of all societies.. All the disharmony between different peoples are because everyone is trying to one-up each other.  </p>
<p>If a country is entirely submissive, don&#8217;t care that they are spit on, and let other countries dominate them, they will probably be liked more so than the competitive country that is constantly trying to be better than you.</p>
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		<title>By: chonchan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chonchan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #84, if I may:

"I remember that Dokdo/Takeshima incident. It was just one insignificant prefectural assembly claiming that Dokdo/Takeshima was Japanese. No one in Japan took them seriously or even care or even know what Takeshima is. The reaction by the Korean netizens was incredibly immature and racist. All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet. You would assume that the Korean netizens had enough sense to distinguish 1 looney cartoonist from an entire country. I guess the Koreans are unaware of the concept of freedom of speech. Maybe thats why they took offense, since they are so used to being spoon fed information by the government.

In another incident there was this Japanese group which wrote a textbook about Korea. Rumors surfaced that the book mocked Korean people, culture and claimed that the Koreans were inferior to the Japajnese.  Korean netizens were in rage and said all sorts of horrible stuff you wouldnt want to hear. Eventually some Korean person who could read Japanese obtained a copy of the book and told everyone that the book was an ordinary book on Korean history and that the rumors were false.  However, he was beaten to death by all of his so called Korean "patriots" who are determined to keep the hatred and jealouy of Japan alive, even if it means having to beat and silence their own countrymen who might expose the ugly hypocrisy behind Korea."

It's amazing how so easily you can substitute "China" and "Korea" in VG866's original post with "Korea" and "Japan" without having to edit any other wording to make it fit so perfectly.  However, it is not surprising at all that hypocritical Korena nationalists are so oblivious to this face.  Goes to show again that so many Koreans love to dish it out to others but absolutely hate it when they get a taste of their own medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #84, if I may:</p>
<p>&#8220;I remember that Dokdo/Takeshima incident. It was just one insignificant prefectural assembly claiming that Dokdo/Takeshima was Japanese. No one in Japan took them seriously or even care or even know what Takeshima is. The reaction by the Korean netizens was incredibly immature and racist. All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet. You would assume that the Korean netizens had enough sense to distinguish 1 looney cartoonist from an entire country. I guess the Koreans are unaware of the concept of freedom of speech. Maybe thats why they took offense, since they are so used to being spoon fed information by the government.</p>
<p>In another incident there was this Japanese group which wrote a textbook about Korea. Rumors surfaced that the book mocked Korean people, culture and claimed that the Koreans were inferior to the Japajnese.  Korean netizens were in rage and said all sorts of horrible stuff you wouldnt want to hear. Eventually some Korean person who could read Japanese obtained a copy of the book and told everyone that the book was an ordinary book on Korean history and that the rumors were false.  However, he was beaten to death by all of his so called Korean &#8220;patriots&#8221; who are determined to keep the hatred and jealouy of Japan alive, even if it means having to beat and silence their own countrymen who might expose the ugly hypocrisy behind Korea.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how so easily you can substitute &#8220;China&#8221; and &#8220;Korea&#8221; in VG866&#8217;s original post with &#8220;Korea&#8221; and &#8220;Japan&#8221; without having to edit any other wording to make it fit so perfectly.  However, it is not surprising at all that hypocritical Korena nationalists are so oblivious to this face.  Goes to show again that so many Koreans love to dish it out to others but absolutely hate it when they get a taste of their own medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: littlebrownasian</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlebrownasian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#85,

&lt;blockquote&gt;It must be f*cking annoying to be treated with sympathy all the time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep, it sure is. Makes us feel like we're some kind of inferior beings that needs to be pitied upon or looked down to. When people aren't sure of something, they either 1) fear it, 2) loathe it, 3) assume their circumstances even if the facts are otherwise. There are times I take them by face value; other times, I take them with a grain of salt. :)

I have no regrets having worked here for 5 years.  There are nice people, and not-so-nice people. I've met these same faces in various forms, degrees and personalities from other countries I've been to: Palau, Japan, USA (CA), Yap Islands, Guam, India (New Delhi) and China (Beijing). I guess people will always be people, otherwise we'd all have wings and partying in heaven! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#85,</p>
<blockquote><p>It must be f*cking annoying to be treated with sympathy all the time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep, it sure is. Makes us feel like we&#8217;re some kind of inferior beings that needs to be pitied upon or looked down to. When people aren&#8217;t sure of something, they either 1) fear it, 2) loathe it, 3) assume their circumstances even if the facts are otherwise. There are times I take them by face value; other times, I take them with a grain of salt. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have no regrets having worked here for 5 years.  There are nice people, and not-so-nice people. I&#8217;ve met these same faces in various forms, degrees and personalities from other countries I&#8217;ve been to: Palau, Japan, USA (CA), Yap Islands, Guam, India (New Delhi) and China (Beijing). I guess people will always be people, otherwise we&#8217;d all have wings and partying in heaven! <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Zonath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zonath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny...  I thought that was what the Internet was &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; besides porn.

Anyhow, without really knowing a whole lot more on this poll's methodology, or even what questions were asked, isn't speculating on &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; the poll turned out the way it did sort of pointless?  It seems like that sort of speculation would just be an invitation to project one's own prejudices and negative experiences onto a dubious statistical result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny&#8230;  I thought that was what the Internet was <i>for</i> besides porn.</p>
<p>Anyhow, without really knowing a whole lot more on this poll&#8217;s methodology, or even what questions were asked, isn&#8217;t speculating on <i>why</i> the poll turned out the way it did sort of pointless?  It seems like that sort of speculation would just be an invitation to project one&#8217;s own prejudices and negative experiences onto a dubious statistical result.</p>
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		<title>By: dda</title>
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		<dc:creator>dda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While traveling about Europe I didn't know who was ruder -- Chinese or Korean tourists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Probably the Parisian waiter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While traveling about Europe I didn&#8217;t know who was ruder &#8212; Chinese or Korean tourists.</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably the Parisian waiter.</p>
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		<title>By: cm</title>
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		<dc:creator>cm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I guess thats what the Sankei Shimbuns wants. They want Koreans to side more and more with the Japanese."

No they don't. They're getting in their own shots on Korea via the multitude of China/Korea history issues/chasms.  The Japanese right wing are even coming up with brilliant ideals like supporting China on the Koguryo issue in return for the seat in the UN Security council.  I don't know if China will bite on that, but they may if this history thing with Korea gets bigger.


"That’s all I need to learn about this culture, it’s no different from everywhere else I’ve worked and lived."

You know it's funny how everyone assumes that you'd be spit on and hated on in Korea if you're a brown Asian. Minus the news stories about the abused 3-D workers and foreign brides, it's always "well I know this Filipino (or whatever) who hated this place because he was treated so bad with racism". It's always the "I know this person" who always have problems.  Even Koreans fall into this trap. Many Koreans see a brown person, and they go "oh you poor thing, it must be so difficult living here with everyone treating you like crap". It must be f*cking annoying to be treated with sympathy all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guess thats what the Sankei Shimbuns wants. They want Koreans to side more and more with the Japanese.&#8221;</p>
<p>No they don&#8217;t. They&#8217;re getting in their own shots on Korea via the multitude of China/Korea history issues/chasms.  The Japanese right wing are even coming up with brilliant ideals like supporting China on the Koguryo issue in return for the seat in the UN Security council.  I don&#8217;t know if China will bite on that, but they may if this history thing with Korea gets bigger.</p>
<p>&#8220;That’s all I need to learn about this culture, it’s no different from everywhere else I’ve worked and lived.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know it&#8217;s funny how everyone assumes that you&#8217;d be spit on and hated on in Korea if you&#8217;re a brown Asian. Minus the news stories about the abused 3-D workers and foreign brides, it&#8217;s always &#8220;well I know this Filipino (or whatever) who hated this place because he was treated so bad with racism&#8221;. It&#8217;s always the &#8220;I know this person&#8221; who always have problems.  Even Koreans fall into this trap. Many Koreans see a brown person, and they go &#8220;oh you poor thing, it must be so difficult living here with everyone treating you like crap&#8221;. It must be f*cking annoying to be treated with sympathy all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: VG866</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#79 Ha, what a good laugh.

I remember that Confucius incident. It was just one crazy guy claiming that Confucius was Korean. No one in Korea took him seriously or even cared. The reaction by the Chinese netizens was incredibly immature and racist. All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet. You would assume that the Chinese netizens had enough sense to distinguish 1 looney historian from an entire country. I guess the Chinese are unaware of the concept of freedom of speech. Maybe thats why they took offense, since they are so used to being spoon fed information by the government.

In another incident there was this Korean historian who wrote a book about China. Rumors surfaced that the book mocked Chinese people, culture and claimed that the Chinese were inferior to the Koreans. Chinese netizens were in rage and said all sorts of horrible stuff you wouldnt want to hear. Eventually some Chinese person who could read Hangul obtained a copy of the book and told everyone that the book was an ordinary book on Chinese history and that the rumors were false. Everyone shut up after that and im pretty sure they were embarrassed as hell too. There was no objectivity or common sense in these incidents. Instead they believed rumor after rumor despite how ambiguous they were. I guess thats what the Sankei Shimbuns wants. They want Koreans to side more and more with the Japanese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#79 Ha, what a good laugh.</p>
<p>I remember that Confucius incident. It was just one crazy guy claiming that Confucius was Korean. No one in Korea took him seriously or even cared. The reaction by the Chinese netizens was incredibly immature and racist. All kinds of hateful and racist comments were left on the internet. You would assume that the Chinese netizens had enough sense to distinguish 1 looney historian from an entire country. I guess the Chinese are unaware of the concept of freedom of speech. Maybe thats why they took offense, since they are so used to being spoon fed information by the government.</p>
<p>In another incident there was this Korean historian who wrote a book about China. Rumors surfaced that the book mocked Chinese people, culture and claimed that the Chinese were inferior to the Koreans. Chinese netizens were in rage and said all sorts of horrible stuff you wouldnt want to hear. Eventually some Chinese person who could read Hangul obtained a copy of the book and told everyone that the book was an ordinary book on Chinese history and that the rumors were false. Everyone shut up after that and im pretty sure they were embarrassed as hell too. There was no objectivity or common sense in these incidents. Instead they believed rumor after rumor despite how ambiguous they were. I guess thats what the Sankei Shimbuns wants. They want Koreans to side more and more with the Japanese.</p>
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		<title>By: Hatch SZ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw something so typical of people wealthy enough to own cars here in China. After I got a flu shot, I was walking out of the hospital parking lot. Where two lanes merge into one there was a fender bender between two cars. Neither driver would cede to other other so they both tried to get into the lane at the same time -- and thus car damage and associated delays. So typical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw something so typical of people wealthy enough to own cars here in China. After I got a flu shot, I was walking out of the hospital parking lot. Where two lanes merge into one there was a fender bender between two cars. Neither driver would cede to other other so they both tried to get into the lane at the same time &#8212; and thus car damage and associated delays. So typical.</p>
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		<title>By: littlebrownasian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Filipino also look down on Laotian, Cambodians and Hmongs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No we don't. We often compare ourselves to ourselves. Why would you think our people are itching and dying to get out of the country and work abroad, whatever that country is?

Been living here in Korea for 5 years, and I'll be ending that next year. I know what it feels like to be sympathized by my Korean colleagues and bosses, as well as looked down by a bigoted few. That's all I need to learn about this culture, it's no different from everywhere else I've worked and lived. They may have stronger inclinations for one type of nationality over the other, but don't we all?

Anyway, just to add, the Chinese-hatred-over-the-Japanese thing rings true, at least from the conversations I had with my friends during my brief 2-month stay in Beijing. 

Next stop: Macau, baby! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Filipino also look down on Laotian, Cambodians and Hmongs.</p></blockquote>
<p>No we don&#8217;t. We often compare ourselves to ourselves. Why would you think our people are itching and dying to get out of the country and work abroad, whatever that country is?</p>
<p>Been living here in Korea for 5 years, and I&#8217;ll be ending that next year. I know what it feels like to be sympathized by my Korean colleagues and bosses, as well as looked down by a bigoted few. That&#8217;s all I need to learn about this culture, it&#8217;s no different from everywhere else I&#8217;ve worked and lived. They may have stronger inclinations for one type of nationality over the other, but don&#8217;t we all?</p>
<p>Anyway, just to add, the Chinese-hatred-over-the-Japanese thing rings true, at least from the conversations I had with my friends during my brief 2-month stay in Beijing. </p>
<p>Next stop: Macau, baby! <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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