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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Even a sheet of paper seems lighter when two people lift it together&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Another Korean War</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Marmot&#8217;s Hole &#187; Another Korean War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] much as I hate to push the Marmot&#8217;s fine post on Henry Hyde (a must read, IMHO) further down, here is some shameless promotion of my latest piece at The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] much as I hate to push the Marmot&#8217;s fine post on Henry Hyde (a must read, IMHO) further down, here is some shameless promotion of my latest piece at The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R.I.P.

Good post.

One of the people in this world I respect the most is Korean War veteran.  He certainly has an emotion attachment to the alliance.  Of course, the fact that he was a Korean citizen during the war and is an American citizen living in Korea now may have something to do with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.I.P.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
<p>One of the people in this world I respect the most is Korean War veteran.  He certainly has an emotion attachment to the alliance.  Of course, the fact that he was a Korean citizen during the war and is an American citizen living in Korea now may have something to do with it.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
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		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of an old Korean War veteran I knew when I was in college.  I volunteered my time to help him learn computers and use to talk to him when he was bored.  

He was a trooper who had some logistics responsibility and gave away a lot of food to war refugees.  Said Korea was the coldest place on earth.  As a native of Tennessee, I wonder if he had the right frame of reference to say that (i.e. I doubt a Russian, for example, would say that)?

Anyways, he was in real bad health at the time and I doubt he's alive now.  Americans who do remember the Korean War are truly dying off and the alliance will have to adjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of an old Korean War veteran I knew when I was in college.  I volunteered my time to help him learn computers and use to talk to him when he was bored.  </p>
<p>He was a trooper who had some logistics responsibility and gave away a lot of food to war refugees.  Said Korea was the coldest place on earth.  As a native of Tennessee, I wonder if he had the right frame of reference to say that (i.e. I doubt a Russian, for example, would say that)?</p>
<p>Anyways, he was in real bad health at the time and I doubt he&#8217;s alive now.  Americans who do remember the Korean War are truly dying off and the alliance will have to adjust.</p>
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		<title>By: Breaktrack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaktrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post and a remeinder of why I first came to this blog (and have lingered).  

It might be more accurate to call Hyde part of the bipartisan foreign policy consensus that came of the WWII experience; from the US perspective of that generation, the Korean War was essentially a follow-on to their WWII fight against totalitarianism.  

We are all products of our experiences: 
"Hyde was born in Chicago on April 18, 1924, where he was an all-city basketball center. After serving in the Navy from 1944 to 1946, seeing combat in the Philippines, he graduated from Georgetown University in 1947 and returned to Chicago to earn a law degree from Loyola in 1949.

Raised a Democrat, he switched parties to vote for Dwight Eisenhower in 1952.....

But he has also on occasion parted ways with his conservative colleagues....

In the 1990s he joined the Clinton administration in opposing .... restricting [President Clinton's] authority to engage troops overseas [by] some GOP lawmakers [in] protest [of US] military operations in Haiti, Somalia and Bosnia...."

I vaguely remember looking up Hyde's WWII experience (probably as a result of a previous posting here).  I can't remember the details offhand now, but since his Navy experience (on a vessel?) included time in Phillippine waters, he undoubtedly got first-hand information on the extensive Japanese atrocities committed in their defense of Manila (Feb-Mar 1945).  I strongly suspect that was a key factor leading to his subsequent long-term interest in Asian affairs in general and Korean ones in particular. 

He only got the standard written notice today (Sun morning US) on the "in memoriam" section that always concludes ABC News "This Week" (Sun morning news interview/panel discussion).  But on NBC's Meet the Press, towards the end of the hour the host Tim Russert took a minute or so to discuss Hyde personally, in a generally favorable light (showing some old footage of Hyde being interviewed on the Clinton impeachment, also Hyde's son receiving the award of US Presidential Medal of Freedom on his behalf last year; this must have been somewhat concurrent with the Korean government award).  

Russert came out of the same Irish Catholic political tradition as Hyde (which even in the pre-WWII era included a little-known Republican party subset); I suspect this at least partly accounts for the difference in coverage between the two Sun morning news shows.  

I note this in detail because I see ROK President Roh is a Roman Catholic (also a lawyer like Hyde; and also Kim Dae-Jung was Catholic).  Regardless of whether there was any personal friendship, their common experience may have been an additional source of current Korean administration affinity for Hyde, one that could be expressed regardless of whether any personal friendship (or even personal contac) had occurred between them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post and a remeinder of why I first came to this blog (and have lingered).  </p>
<p>It might be more accurate to call Hyde part of the bipartisan foreign policy consensus that came of the WWII experience; from the US perspective of that generation, the Korean War was essentially a follow-on to their WWII fight against totalitarianism.  </p>
<p>We are all products of our experiences:<br />
&#8220;Hyde was born in Chicago on April 18, 1924, where he was an all-city basketball center. After serving in the Navy from 1944 to 1946, seeing combat in the Philippines, he graduated from Georgetown University in 1947 and returned to Chicago to earn a law degree from Loyola in 1949.</p>
<p>Raised a Democrat, he switched parties to vote for Dwight Eisenhower in 1952&#8230;..</p>
<p>But he has also on occasion parted ways with his conservative colleagues&#8230;.</p>
<p>In the 1990s he joined the Clinton administration in opposing &#8230;. restricting [President Clinton's] authority to engage troops overseas [by] some GOP lawmakers [in] protest [of US] military operations in Haiti, Somalia and Bosnia&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I vaguely remember looking up Hyde&#8217;s WWII experience (probably as a result of a previous posting here).  I can&#8217;t remember the details offhand now, but since his Navy experience (on a vessel?) included time in Phillippine waters, he undoubtedly got first-hand information on the extensive Japanese atrocities committed in their defense of Manila (Feb-Mar 1945).  I strongly suspect that was a key factor leading to his subsequent long-term interest in Asian affairs in general and Korean ones in particular. </p>
<p>He only got the standard written notice today (Sun morning US) on the &#8220;in memoriam&#8221; section that always concludes ABC News &#8220;This Week&#8221; (Sun morning news interview/panel discussion).  But on NBC&#8217;s Meet the Press, towards the end of the hour the host Tim Russert took a minute or so to discuss Hyde personally, in a generally favorable light (showing some old footage of Hyde being interviewed on the Clinton impeachment, also Hyde&#8217;s son receiving the award of US Presidential Medal of Freedom on his behalf last year; this must have been somewhat concurrent with the Korean government award).  </p>
<p>Russert came out of the same Irish Catholic political tradition as Hyde (which even in the pre-WWII era included a little-known Republican party subset); I suspect this at least partly accounts for the difference in coverage between the two Sun morning news shows.  </p>
<p>I note this in detail because I see ROK President Roh is a Roman Catholic (also a lawyer like Hyde; and also Kim Dae-Jung was Catholic).  Regardless of whether there was any personal friendship, their common experience may have been an additional source of current Korean administration affinity for Hyde, one that could be expressed regardless of whether any personal friendship (or even personal contac) had occurred between them.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 12:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Roh awarded Hyde the Gwanghwa medal (whatever that is). God that little turd pisses me off with with every breathing moment. After tacitly approving the attacks on MacArthur's statue and paying the unemployed losers at Pyongtaek and using every occasion in his horrific five year presidency to attack the US and USFK he thinks he can smooth things over by some worthless token gesture such as the "Gwanghwa medal". What an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Roh awarded Hyde the Gwanghwa medal (whatever that is). God that little turd pisses me off with with every breathing moment. After tacitly approving the attacks on MacArthur&#8217;s statue and paying the unemployed losers at Pyongtaek and using every occasion in his horrific five year presidency to attack the US and USFK he thinks he can smooth things over by some worthless token gesture such as the &#8220;Gwanghwa medal&#8221;. What an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: mjw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Robert.

I was never a big fan of Hyde but he definitely had a knack for getting the perspective right when it came to the Korean File.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Robert.</p>
<p>I was never a big fan of Hyde but he definitely had a knack for getting the perspective right when it came to the Korean File.</p>
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		<title>By: tbonetylr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tbonetylr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 08:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the 'meat' of what he said/address, I'll agree with most of it except "lead me to believe that the differences we face are just bumps in the road on the path to..."

"Bumps in the road."  HA!  I can't speak for the U.S. government but I sure hope they aren't just bumps in the road. 

Nor would I share his optimism on the FTA or Visa Waiver.  However, he was dead on concerning the "Host."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8216;meat&#8217; of what he said/address, I&#8217;ll agree with most of it except &#8220;lead me to believe that the differences we face are just bumps in the road on the path to&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Bumps in the road.&#8221;  HA!  I can&#8217;t speak for the U.S. government but I sure hope they aren&#8217;t just bumps in the road. </p>
<p>Nor would I share his optimism on the FTA or Visa Waiver.  However, he was dead on concerning the &#8220;Host.&#8221;</p>
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