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		<title>By: south_jeolla_blues</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120782</link>
		<dc:creator>south_jeolla_blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test taking also, unfortunately, reinforces the stereotype by some that Koreans are a very superficial people.  I don't necessarily buy that stereotype, but a good test score does not necessarily mean that you have mastered the material.  A test is a measure, but it only can measure so much.  

A good example is my bank in Korea.  My academy had Kookmin Bank in their building.  This was VERY handy, especially on payday.  However, any major transaction, such as wiring money overseas or even just opening an account turned into a major headache because nobody spoke English, including the people at the foreign exchange desk.  (Well, they spoke a little and they presumably took tests on it.  But wiring money often turned into a major hassle.)  The third in command at the academy found it hard to believe me about the struggles I had with the bank.  My last day, when I was closing out my account, I had to have him come down and translate.  And it wasn't like I was wiring major amounts of cash, either.  I had been going through the hassle every month and now wanted to close out my account.  It took well over an hour to get everything sorted out.  He was amazed, as he thought that they could understand English!  Not so.

I am happy to try and speak Korean in many situations.  However, when it comes to money, well, that is a different issue.  There are so many people who have studied the language, but when it comes to actually communicated, they fail and fail miserably.  They might even have a good score on the TOEIC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test taking also, unfortunately, reinforces the stereotype by some that Koreans are a very superficial people.  I don&#8217;t necessarily buy that stereotype, but a good test score does not necessarily mean that you have mastered the material.  A test is a measure, but it only can measure so much.  </p>
<p>A good example is my bank in Korea.  My academy had Kookmin Bank in their building.  This was VERY handy, especially on payday.  However, any major transaction, such as wiring money overseas or even just opening an account turned into a major headache because nobody spoke English, including the people at the foreign exchange desk.  (Well, they spoke a little and they presumably took tests on it.  But wiring money often turned into a major hassle.)  The third in command at the academy found it hard to believe me about the struggles I had with the bank.  My last day, when I was closing out my account, I had to have him come down and translate.  And it wasn&#8217;t like I was wiring major amounts of cash, either.  I had been going through the hassle every month and now wanted to close out my account.  It took well over an hour to get everything sorted out.  He was amazed, as he thought that they could understand English!  Not so.</p>
<p>I am happy to try and speak Korean in many situations.  However, when it comes to money, well, that is a different issue.  There are so many people who have studied the language, but when it comes to actually communicated, they fail and fail miserably.  They might even have a good score on the TOEIC!</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120627</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 00:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14, 
Yes, the fixation on testing is the major problem faced by English Education in Korea.  It focuses on standardized tests and the financial rewards and pitfalls associated with it one's score on said exams.  In other words, it puts a strong emphasis on extrinsic motivators (mainly punishments). Instead,  teachers should strive to cultivate intrinsic motivators within the classroom.  For one, allowing the students to set their own goals and praising and encouraging them throughout the process would help develop the students thirst for knowledge.  Instead, they are taught in preparation for these tests; consequently, they are taught to fear failure, which stifles creativity and risk-taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14,<br />
Yes, the fixation on testing is the major problem faced by English Education in Korea.  It focuses on standardized tests and the financial rewards and pitfalls associated with it one&#8217;s score on said exams.  In other words, it puts a strong emphasis on extrinsic motivators (mainly punishments). Instead,  teachers should strive to cultivate intrinsic motivators within the classroom.  For one, allowing the students to set their own goals and praising and encouraging them throughout the process would help develop the students thirst for knowledge.  Instead, they are taught in preparation for these tests; consequently, they are taught to fear failure, which stifles creativity and risk-taking.</p>
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		<title>By: south_jeolla_blues</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120467</link>
		<dc:creator>south_jeolla_blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I taught in a hakwon in Gwangju this past year and will teaching closer to Seoul next year.  One thing that I will never be able to fully understand is the strange fixation with tests in Korea.  Unfortunately, so much of English education is not devoted to communication but to doing well on the TOEIC, the TOEFL, the dreaded Suneung, among others.

I did have some students who could actually communicate.  I taught a very bright 15 year old boy who had near-native pronunciation of English. He studied English because he genuinely wanted to learn to speak it and would very happily talk to any English speakers he could find.  He had a great attitude towards learning and that is probably why his fluency was near perfect. He is something of an exception.  There are any number of people with high TOEFL and TOEIC scores who can't talk.  A test is a good measure of knowledge.  But if you can't talk, well then what good is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I taught in a hakwon in Gwangju this past year and will teaching closer to Seoul next year.  One thing that I will never be able to fully understand is the strange fixation with tests in Korea.  Unfortunately, so much of English education is not devoted to communication but to doing well on the TOEIC, the TOEFL, the dreaded Suneung, among others.</p>
<p>I did have some students who could actually communicate.  I taught a very bright 15 year old boy who had near-native pronunciation of English. He studied English because he genuinely wanted to learn to speak it and would very happily talk to any English speakers he could find.  He had a great attitude towards learning and that is probably why his fluency was near perfect. He is something of an exception.  There are any number of people with high TOEFL and TOEIC scores who can&#8217;t talk.  A test is a good measure of knowledge.  But if you can&#8217;t talk, well then what good is it?</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120375</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction, "I’m sure they’d be raking in the cash, but how could that be an improvement on the current situation?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction, &#8220;I’m sure they’d be raking in the cash, but how could that be an improvement on the current situation?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120366</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Your skin looks remarkably smooth.  What's your secret?  Are you raiding your wife's makeup stash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Your skin looks remarkably smooth.  What&#8217;s your secret?  Are you raiding your wife&#8217;s makeup stash?</p>
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		<title>By: The_William_G</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120365</link>
		<dc:creator>The_William_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Get a haircut! Shave. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
GET OFF MY LAWN!

STOP PLAYING THAT HIPPITY HOP MUSIC!

DON'T MAKE ME TAKE OFF MY BELT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Get a haircut! Shave. </p></blockquote>
<p>GET OFF MY LAWN!</p>
<p>STOP PLAYING THAT HIPPITY HOP MUSIC!</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T MAKE ME TAKE OFF MY BELT!</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120361</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7, 8

You need to ask yourselves if the newspapers and politicians who criticize the TEOIC exam don't have vested interests in doing so.  What's their solution?  Replace it by a homegrown test, preferably one that they will administer?  I'm sure they've be raking in the cash, but how could that be an improvement on the current situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7, 8</p>
<p>You need to ask yourselves if the newspapers and politicians who criticize the TEOIC exam don&#8217;t have vested interests in doing so.  What&#8217;s their solution?  Replace it by a homegrown test, preferably one that they will administer?  I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve be raking in the cash, but how could that be an improvement on the current situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120347</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I really need to send them a new picture.  That thing looks like a mug shot.

I got a call from a reporter last week, asking me to contribute something for a piece KT wants to do on the election and English education.  I think "OK, this won't be too difficult."  I hammer it out in two hours to meet what I thought was the deadline and zipped it in.  I didn't expect that it was going to be a stand alone pieace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I really need to send them a new picture.  That thing looks like a mug shot.</p>
<p>I got a call from a reporter last week, asking me to contribute something for a piece KT wants to do on the election and English education.  I think &#8220;OK, this won&#8217;t be too difficult.&#8221;  I hammer it out in two hours to meet what I thought was the deadline and zipped it in.  I didn&#8217;t expect that it was going to be a stand alone pieace.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Flank &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Accent Will Kill You</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120342</link>
		<dc:creator>Left Flank &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Accent Will Kill You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can&#8217;t agree more:  I think the very fact that English education is an issue in the election shows just how ludicrous [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can&#8217;t agree more:  I think the very fact that English education is an issue in the election shows just how ludicrous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iwshim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/28/a-chicken-in-every-pot-2/#comment-120341</link>
		<dc:creator>iwshim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linkd: 

That was music to my ears. Every single thing was perfect.

Koreans have been too occupied with image and not substance. Wasting money on ideas such as the English villages is a prime example of this. 

Point: There is no leadership in the education system of Korea. Look here -

http://www.adiversity.com/magazine/article.htm?ID=645838550

Education is too important to be left to government. 
Business demands results. 
Ask a CEO at a Korean company what it takes to make in the business world:
1.	English skills
2.	Computer skills
3.	A specialty

What does education deliver, “Hi I am fine thank you and you?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linkd: </p>
<p>That was music to my ears. Every single thing was perfect.</p>
<p>Koreans have been too occupied with image and not substance. Wasting money on ideas such as the English villages is a prime example of this. </p>
<p>Point: There is no leadership in the education system of Korea. Look here -</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adiversity.com/magazine/article.htm?ID=645838550" rel="nofollow">http://www.adiversity.com/maga.....=645838550</a></p>
<p>Education is too important to be left to government.<br />
Business demands results.<br />
Ask a CEO at a Korean company what it takes to make in the business world:<br />
1.	English skills<br />
2.	Computer skills<br />
3.	A specialty</p>
<p>What does education deliver, “Hi I am fine thank you and you?”</p>
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