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	<title>Comments on: The enemy of my enemy (Pyongyang and Lee Hoi-chang)</title>
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		<title>By: DPRK Studies</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/26/the-enemy-of-my-enemy-pyongyang-and-lee-hoi-chang/#comment-124398</link>
		<dc:creator>DPRK Studies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;What Does the ROK Election Mean for North Korea?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Tomorrow (19 December) South Korea will hold presidential elections and, if the polls can be trusted, it looks like the former mayor of Seoul and Hyundai Construction businessman Lee Myung-bak (이명박) will win. 
Unfortunately – and bizarrely, con...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>What Does the ROK Election Mean for North Korea?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Tomorrow (19 December) South Korea will hold presidential elections and, if the polls can be trusted, it looks like the former mayor of Seoul and Hyundai Construction businessman Lee Myung-bak (이명박) will win.<br />
Unfortunately – and bizarrely, con&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: parker</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/26/the-enemy-of-my-enemy-pyongyang-and-lee-hoi-chang/#comment-120268</link>
		<dc:creator>parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the site was redirected for me too. if you can't view it (or any sites blocked by the korean government), paste it's address into a web proxy like the one below.

http://www.phproxy.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the site was redirected for me too. if you can&#8217;t view it (or any sites blocked by the korean government), paste it&#8217;s address into a web proxy like the one below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.phproxy.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.phproxy.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; Terrorism, Plain and Simple</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/26/the-enemy-of-my-enemy-pyongyang-and-lee-hoi-chang/#comment-120258</link>
		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; Terrorism, Plain and Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The headline of this editorial simply calls on South Koreans to &#8220;eliminate&#8221; Lee.  You can read Andy&#8217;s full post here.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The headline of this editorial simply calls on South Koreans to &#8220;eliminate&#8221; Lee.  You can read Andy&#8217;s full post here.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the reasons they'd hate seeing Lee Hoi Chang elected as president of South Korea is because he is not only critical of the North Korean regime, but he was also born in what is now North Korea.  Can you imagine the effect that would have on the North Korean population?  They might actually start looking up to Lee Hoi Chang as a role model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the reasons they&#8217;d hate seeing Lee Hoi Chang elected as president of South Korea is because he is not only critical of the North Korean regime, but he was also born in what is now North Korea.  Can you imagine the effect that would have on the North Korean population?  They might actually start looking up to Lee Hoi Chang as a role model.</p>
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		<title>By: wjk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wjk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>somebody brought up Roh Moo Hyun and Lee Myung Bak coming up from hopeless situations to become Presidents of South Korea.

I'm already banking that Lee Myung Bak becomes President.

To think of it, most of the South Korean Presidents are self-made men.  Very Protestant like, German, English, like.  

'Bust your ass, and life will reward you, starting point doesn't matter', type of philosophy.

Lee Hoi Chang is simply not that type.

Although a lot of SK Presidents earned their positions somewhat, those are pretty much all 

dragon out of the gutter

type of success stories.

gae chun ae suh yong nan da 

type.

in English, a Cinderella story.

Lee Myung Bak says so himself.  He overcame incredible odds.  He credits his mother's prayers for him, and God who answered them along with his hard work.

Pity that he's involved in a charge that he was swindling.

Vast majority of Koreans will not overcome their disadvantageous starting points.  Most kids who don't go to college won't be Presidents.  Most kids going to Gong Go, won't go to Koryo University like Myung Bak, nor become honcho of Hyundai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>somebody brought up Roh Moo Hyun and Lee Myung Bak coming up from hopeless situations to become Presidents of South Korea.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already banking that Lee Myung Bak becomes President.</p>
<p>To think of it, most of the South Korean Presidents are self-made men.  Very Protestant like, German, English, like.  </p>
<p>&#8216;Bust your ass, and life will reward you, starting point doesn&#8217;t matter&#8217;, type of philosophy.</p>
<p>Lee Hoi Chang is simply not that type.</p>
<p>Although a lot of SK Presidents earned their positions somewhat, those are pretty much all </p>
<p>dragon out of the gutter</p>
<p>type of success stories.</p>
<p>gae chun ae suh yong nan da </p>
<p>type.</p>
<p>in English, a Cinderella story.</p>
<p>Lee Myung Bak says so himself.  He overcame incredible odds.  He credits his mother&#8217;s prayers for him, and God who answered them along with his hard work.</p>
<p>Pity that he&#8217;s involved in a charge that he was swindling.</p>
<p>Vast majority of Koreans will not overcome their disadvantageous starting points.  Most kids who don&#8217;t go to college won&#8217;t be Presidents.  Most kids going to Gong Go, won&#8217;t go to Koryo University like Myung Bak, nor become honcho of Hyundai.</p>
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		<title>By: soondae</title>
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		<dc:creator>soondae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>swlee - Who is running for President, Lee Hoi Chang, or his daddy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>swlee - Who is running for President, Lee Hoi Chang, or his daddy?</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>North Korea is calling for the "elimination" of an opposition candidate and making statements that sound very much like threats or calls for violence against him.

This is the part where I point out that our State Department wants to drop these guys from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>North Korea is calling for the &#8220;elimination&#8221; of an opposition candidate and making statements that sound very much like threats or calls for violence against him.</p>
<p>This is the part where I point out that our State Department wants to drop these guys from the list of state sponsors of terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange, for some reason I have no problem at all with access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange, for some reason I have no problem at all with access.</p>
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		<title>By: Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can't get to KCNA from ROK, try these;

atunnel.com
btunnel.com
c... etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t get to KCNA from ROK, try these;</p>
<p>atunnel.com<br />
btunnel.com<br />
c&#8230; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) "When Korea was suffering under the yoke of Japanese imjperialism ,Park CheongHee would go out on behalf of the Japanese to catch belligerant korean independence figures..."

2) "...Lee Hoi Chang’s daddy....was a judge for japanese imperialist apparatus...." 

3) "....these kinds of elites make the bush dynasty in washington look like roman orgy...."

The use of "Roman orgy" as a simile in English idiom is always meant as an
absolute negative, and always in a context of sexual morals (it usually implies multiple simultaneous sex partners in a context of slavery and gluttony).  

So it doesn't track with your overall negative metaphor, which is meant as a political comparison of your countrymen's so-called collaborationist politics with US politics.   What you wanted to say (I think) is that "...these kinds of elites make the Bush dynasty look like [a] 'Sunday-school picnic'..."

Note also that I took the trouble to capitalize "Bush" for you.  Your deliberate failure to do this properly was really most insulting, old boy, considering that you were at least sufficiently courteous to capitalize the names of your fellow-countrymen "collaborationist" Koreans.  Whatever you may think of his "dynasty", at least Bush 41 distinguished himself as a young man in risking his life to fly Navy carrier aircraft in the Pacific against the Japanese in WWII. 

By the way, what was the relationship between your immediate paternal ancestors and the Japanese between 1910-45?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) &#8220;When Korea was suffering under the yoke of Japanese imjperialism ,Park CheongHee would go out on behalf of the Japanese to catch belligerant korean independence figures&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>2) &#8220;&#8230;Lee Hoi Chang’s daddy&#8230;.was a judge for japanese imperialist apparatus&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>3) &#8220;&#8230;.these kinds of elites make the bush dynasty in washington look like roman orgy&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>The use of &#8220;Roman orgy&#8221; as a simile in English idiom is always meant as an<br />
absolute negative, and always in a context of sexual morals (it usually implies multiple simultaneous sex partners in a context of slavery and gluttony).  </p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t track with your overall negative metaphor, which is meant as a political comparison of your countrymen&#8217;s so-called collaborationist politics with US politics.   What you wanted to say (I think) is that &#8220;&#8230;these kinds of elites make the Bush dynasty look like [a] &#8216;Sunday-school picnic&#8217;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Note also that I took the trouble to capitalize &#8220;Bush&#8221; for you.  Your deliberate failure to do this properly was really most insulting, old boy, considering that you were at least sufficiently courteous to capitalize the names of your fellow-countrymen &#8220;collaborationist&#8221; Koreans.  Whatever you may think of his &#8220;dynasty&#8221;, at least Bush 41 distinguished himself as a young man in risking his life to fly Navy carrier aircraft in the Pacific against the Japanese in WWII. </p>
<p>By the way, what was the relationship between your immediate paternal ancestors and the Japanese between 1910-45?</p>
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