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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/23/angry-asian-man-in-the-cbc/#comment-120118</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing Cho probably DID learn from Harris and Klebold is to leave some sort of video "manifesto" of incoherent ideas and impossible to understand "wrongs" they suffered, be it real or imagined.

On the subject of mass killers or serial killers, it's an issue of individualism and anti-social behavior that's gone warped beyond imagination to a sane mind, which may be be the reason why there are more of these type of killers in Western nations then there are in developing or non-Western nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing Cho probably DID learn from Harris and Klebold is to leave some sort of video &#8220;manifesto&#8221; of incoherent ideas and impossible to understand &#8220;wrongs&#8221; they suffered, be it real or imagined.</p>
<p>On the subject of mass killers or serial killers, it&#8217;s an issue of individualism and anti-social behavior that&#8217;s gone warped beyond imagination to a sane mind, which may be be the reason why there are more of these type of killers in Western nations then there are in developing or non-Western nations.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/23/angry-asian-man-in-the-cbc/#comment-120114</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 08:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 31,

Not true.

Harris and Klebold obviously didn't copy Whitman, their direct predecessor.  Mass murderers tend to be egotistical and want to do things differently in order to be "remembered."  The last thing they want to be known as are copy cats.  This partially explains why there haven't been anymore Zodiac Killers or Jack the Rippers.  Even if there were, we don't remember them because they were not original.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 31,</p>
<p>Not true.</p>
<p>Harris and Klebold obviously didn&#8217;t copy Whitman, their direct predecessor.  Mass murderers tend to be egotistical and want to do things differently in order to be &#8220;remembered.&#8221;  The last thing they want to be known as are copy cats.  This partially explains why there haven&#8217;t been anymore Zodiac Killers or Jack the Rippers.  Even if there were, we don&#8217;t remember them because they were not original.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/23/angry-asian-man-in-the-cbc/#comment-120110</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's troubling to think that western values of violence are keeping back our best mass-killers.  Cho put the others to shame and is really the new standard bearer in mass carnage.  This will cause the leading psychotic killers to rethink their models and assumptions, and really signals a new paradigm shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s troubling to think that western values of violence are keeping back our best mass-killers.  Cho put the others to shame and is really the new standard bearer in mass carnage.  This will cause the leading psychotic killers to rethink their models and assumptions, and really signals a new paradigm shift.</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/23/angry-asian-man-in-the-cbc/#comment-120108</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe that I consistently used "rife" instead of "rifle."
 :wallbash:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that I consistently used &#8220;rife&#8221; instead of &#8220;rifle.&#8221;<br />
 :wallbash:</p>
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		<title>By: WangKon936</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/23/angry-asian-man-in-the-cbc/#comment-120100</link>
		<dc:creator>WangKon936</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humm... it appears that no one has discussed or thought about this.  Maybe it's only from my odd mind.  However, I don't think one of the major take aways from Cho's rampage is one of race issues.  That freak shot up everyone regardless of color.  He was just a very violent, disturbed mind.

When I compare what Cho did with what Charles Whitman (the UT of Austin shooter) and Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did at Columbine I see a difference in Western and non-Western values on violence.  All four of these deranged individuals had the same goal: a high body count for a macabre calling card to infamy.

Whitman used a sniper rife and thought that position and precision would create the highest body count.  Harris and Klebold had machine pistols and pipe bombs.  They thought firepower would create the highest body count.  Total body count: 14 and 12 respectively.

Cho's approach was a lot more straightforward.  Lock the doors, get up close and personal and go into each classroom and blast away with two underpowered handguns.  Total body count: 32.  Doesn't take a math genius to see that Cho was more efficient.  No fancy pipe bombs, no fancy automatic weapons, no fancy sniper rife.

Thus, the Western attitude towards violence tends to lean to a solution involving technology and/or firepower, whereas the non-Western approach seems to be more like a Nike commercial: "Just do it."  

A more sedate example would be America's reliance on mutually supporting fire bases to pin the Vietcong to geographic specific areas and pound them with artillery to "pacify" the country.  What did the Koreans do in Vietnam?  They didn't have America's firepower and/or technology so they just occupied territory and used efficient violence to scare all the hooches to death so giving rice and shelter to Charlie would be the last thing on their minds.

I attribute this to the West being more acquainted with technology and technological solutions, the industrial revolution being in the late 18th century for the West and industrialization for most non-Western nations being well into the 20th century.

In this age of global terrorist organizations from non-Western and non-industrial (or very recently industrial) nations, the lesson I think we need to learn is that we shouldn't rely on solutions based on firepower and technology  as being the most effective means to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humm&#8230; it appears that no one has discussed or thought about this.  Maybe it&#8217;s only from my odd mind.  However, I don&#8217;t think one of the major take aways from Cho&#8217;s rampage is one of race issues.  That freak shot up everyone regardless of color.  He was just a very violent, disturbed mind.</p>
<p>When I compare what Cho did with what Charles Whitman (the UT of Austin shooter) and Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold did at Columbine I see a difference in Western and non-Western values on violence.  All four of these deranged individuals had the same goal: a high body count for a macabre calling card to infamy.</p>
<p>Whitman used a sniper rife and thought that position and precision would create the highest body count.  Harris and Klebold had machine pistols and pipe bombs.  They thought firepower would create the highest body count.  Total body count: 14 and 12 respectively.</p>
<p>Cho&#8217;s approach was a lot more straightforward.  Lock the doors, get up close and personal and go into each classroom and blast away with two underpowered handguns.  Total body count: 32.  Doesn&#8217;t take a math genius to see that Cho was more efficient.  No fancy pipe bombs, no fancy automatic weapons, no fancy sniper rife.</p>
<p>Thus, the Western attitude towards violence tends to lean to a solution involving technology and/or firepower, whereas the non-Western approach seems to be more like a Nike commercial: &#8220;Just do it.&#8221;  </p>
<p>A more sedate example would be America&#8217;s reliance on mutually supporting fire bases to pin the Vietcong to geographic specific areas and pound them with artillery to &#8220;pacify&#8221; the country.  What did the Koreans do in Vietnam?  They didn&#8217;t have America&#8217;s firepower and/or technology so they just occupied territory and used efficient violence to scare all the hooches to death so giving rice and shelter to Charlie would be the last thing on their minds.</p>
<p>I attribute this to the West being more acquainted with technology and technological solutions, the industrial revolution being in the late 18th century for the West and industrialization for most non-Western nations being well into the 20th century.</p>
<p>In this age of global terrorist organizations from non-Western and non-industrial (or very recently industrial) nations, the lesson I think we need to learn is that we shouldn&#8217;t rely on solutions based on firepower and technology  as being the most effective means to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: hardyandtiny</title>
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		<dc:creator>hardyandtiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 18:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Namely, they are upset about the predominance of interracial dating between white males and Asian females — who are often fetishized as hyper-feminine and subservient"

No, it's not fetish or subservient.  East Asian women look like girls. Men want sex with young women. There is a natural attraction to the East Asian women because her physical characteristics are very similar to a young girl; small frame, large cheeks, pouty lips, etc... she looks like a girl to a Western male. 
And, the Western male is attractive to the East Asian female. I can't know why, as I'm a Western male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Namely, they are upset about the predominance of interracial dating between white males and Asian females — who are often fetishized as hyper-feminine and subservient&#8221;</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s not fetish or subservient.  East Asian women look like girls. Men want sex with young women. There is a natural attraction to the East Asian women because her physical characteristics are very similar to a young girl; small frame, large cheeks, pouty lips, etc&#8230; she looks like a girl to a Western male.<br />
And, the Western male is attractive to the East Asian female. I can&#8217;t know why, as I&#8217;m a Western male.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jing is on the money, but his generalizations apply only to the North American social scene, not overseas in Korea or China.  I recall a previous thread about speed dating experiments in NYC, which showed that women showed a stronger preference for a partner of the same race than men.  While living in Korea and China, I knew white and black Western women who did not find Asian men either culturally or physically appealing; however, those women were a minority.  The most beautiful foreign woman I knew personally, a tall blonde with a brick house bod and a perfect face, kept company with a very masculine, sexy Korean army ranger.

If you're striking out with white chicks, Jing, maybe the problem isn't your Asian face. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jing is on the money, but his generalizations apply only to the North American social scene, not overseas in Korea or China.  I recall a previous thread about speed dating experiments in NYC, which showed that women showed a stronger preference for a partner of the same race than men.  While living in Korea and China, I knew white and black Western women who did not find Asian men either culturally or physically appealing; however, those women were a minority.  The most beautiful foreign woman I knew personally, a tall blonde with a brick house bod and a perfect face, kept company with a very masculine, sexy Korean army ranger.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re striking out with white chicks, Jing, maybe the problem isn&#8217;t your Asian face. <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is not that Asian women are being fetishized, but rather it's damn hard to get a date as an Asian man, well much harder than normal. Asian women dating non-Asian men isn't an indication of inverse bias, instead they actually demonstrate less bias than other women.

It's not a matter of being an extrovert, but simply being Asian is a severe penalty in dating and relationships. It is a statistically observable phenomenon. To match an average Joe Blow, an Asian man will require significantly more earning power. In speed dating, white women also display more bias against Asian men.

The problem isn't whitey stealing our women, but rather Asian women being neutral in regards to relationships and other women being discriminatory. You would think that the two out groups in the whole relationship pyramid, asian men and black women, would get together but it turns out that black women are the most discriminatory regarding dating and the higher up the socio-economic ladder you go, the likelier that they are going to be spinsters. (i.e. Condoleeza)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not that Asian women are being fetishized, but rather it&#8217;s damn hard to get a date as an Asian man, well much harder than normal. Asian women dating non-Asian men isn&#8217;t an indication of inverse bias, instead they actually demonstrate less bias than other women.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of being an extrovert, but simply being Asian is a severe penalty in dating and relationships. It is a statistically observable phenomenon. To match an average Joe Blow, an Asian man will require significantly more earning power. In speed dating, white women also display more bias against Asian men.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t whitey stealing our women, but rather Asian women being neutral in regards to relationships and other women being discriminatory. You would think that the two out groups in the whole relationship pyramid, asian men and black women, would get together but it turns out that black women are the most discriminatory regarding dating and the higher up the socio-economic ladder you go, the likelier that they are going to be spinsters. (i.e. Condoleeza)</p>
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		<title>By: globalvillageidiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>globalvillageidiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Oh, and yeah, he who thinks North American guys marry Asian women because they are subservient has never been married to a Korean woman.

Gotta agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, and yeah, he who thinks North American guys marry Asian women because they are subservient has never been married to a Korean woman.</p>
<p>Gotta agree.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeguyinKorea</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeguyinKorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fetishized subservient Asian women a reason to be angry?  Isn't the subservient woman a central character in most porn, whether it was shot for the Asian, European, or North American markets regardless of whether the women playing that role are white, Latina, Asian or black?  

Oh, and yeah, he who thinks North American guys marry Asian women because they are subservient has never been married to a Korean woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fetishized subservient Asian women a reason to be angry?  Isn&#8217;t the subservient woman a central character in most porn, whether it was shot for the Asian, European, or North American markets regardless of whether the women playing that role are white, Latina, Asian or black?  </p>
<p>Oh, and yeah, he who thinks North American guys marry Asian women because they are subservient has never been married to a Korean woman.</p>
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