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		<title>By: Breaktrack</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119507</link>
		<dc:creator>Breaktrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 23:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vaseline, Galaxy Express, Bloody Cookie, Johnny Royal etc... are some AWESOME indie bands here in Korea. Bands like these often play in places like DGBD, Skunk Hell and WASP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vaseline, Galaxy Express, Bloody Cookie, Johnny Royal etc&#8230; are some AWESOME indie bands here in Korea. Bands like these often play in places like DGBD, Skunk Hell and WASP.</p>
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		<title>By: mcnut</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119497</link>
		<dc:creator>mcnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought seo taji was the dude who copied/pirated Rage Against the Machine??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought seo taji was the dude who copied/pirated Rage Against the Machine??</p>
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		<title>By: bumfromkorea</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119486</link>
		<dc:creator>bumfromkorea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehehe

Drunken Tiger + YB Band - Peppermint Candy 2
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAyEtxuz_WA

Sugar Donut - Loser
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IiETXE1Xo4o

Kim Dong Ryul + Lee Juck - Dream of a Goose
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vrunZLZn4v0&#38;feature=related

Yoon Mi Rae - Dark Happiness
http://youtube.com/watch?v=35bxGNRcJKw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehehe</p>
<p>Drunken Tiger + YB Band - Peppermint Candy 2<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAyEtxuz_WA" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=zAyEtxuz_WA</a></p>
<p>Sugar Donut - Loser<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=IiETXE1Xo4o" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=IiETXE1Xo4o</a></p>
<p>Kim Dong Ryul + Lee Juck - Dream of a Goose<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=vrunZLZn4v0&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=vru.....re=related</a></p>
<p>Yoon Mi Rae - Dark Happiness<br />
<a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=35bxGNRcJKw" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=35bxGNRcJKw</a></p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119476</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keyboard error. Will try again.  

So, the way to the top, as the lyrics suggest is to "buy a beat up six string at a five and dime, then play it ’til your fingers bleed with some guys from school."

I guess these days, you just enroll in the local rap hakwon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keyboard error. Will try again.  </p>
<p>So, the way to the top, as the lyrics suggest is to &#8220;buy a beat up six string at a five and dime, then play it ’til your fingers bleed with some guys from school.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess these days, you just enroll in the local rap hakwon.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119475</link>
		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, abcdefg, I can't pass up a chance at the last word.  Maybe I just don't like pop music that much, but I had thought, like thought, like the lyrics in "Juke Box Hero" and "Summer of 69" that some guy 


Bought a beat up six string in a secondhand store
I got my first real six-string
Bought it at the five-and-dime
Played 'til my fingers bled
Me and some guys from school
Had a Band and we tried real hard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, abcdefg, I can&#8217;t pass up a chance at the last word.  Maybe I just don&#8217;t like pop music that much, but I had thought, like thought, like the lyrics in &#8220;Juke Box Hero&#8221; and &#8220;Summer of 69&#8243; that some guy </p>
<p>Bought a beat up six string in a secondhand store<br />
I got my first real six-string<br />
Bought it at the five-and-dime<br />
Played &#8217;til my fingers bled<br />
Me and some guys from school<br />
Had a Band and we tried real hard</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119447</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moon Hee Jun - My Silent Conflict

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOb4Xh4YTYA&#38;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moon Hee Jun - My Silent Conflict</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOb4Xh4YTYA&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119446</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoon Band - Cigarette Lady

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMPZMPYAno0&#38;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoon Band - Cigarette Lady</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMPZMPYAno0&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119445</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;abcdefg: Any leads on Korean indie music? I know where to find it in my own country, but I’m at a loss here&lt;/i&gt;

Not indie but pretty good head banger stuff here:

Moon Hee Jun - Messiah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXlXVbMGJYA&#38;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>abcdefg: Any leads on Korean indie music? I know where to find it in my own country, but I’m at a loss here</i></p>
<p>Not indie but pretty good head banger stuff here:</p>
<p>Moon Hee Jun - Messiah<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXlXVbMGJYA&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: McGenghis</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119434</link>
		<dc:creator>McGenghis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>abcdefg: Any leads on Korean indie music? I know where to find it in my own country, but I'm at a loss here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abcdefg: Any leads on Korean indie music? I know where to find it in my own country, but I&#8217;m at a loss here.</p>
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		<title>By: abcdefg</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/21/hes-back-2/#comment-119432</link>
		<dc:creator>abcdefg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll make this short and simple:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"Have you heard the Korean versions of “I will survive” and “bepop shebop”?"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Covers != rip-offs. Obviously. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Everyone has an influence, of course. But to have an academy choose your identity as a musician, tell you whom to model yourself after, it prevents people from freely experimenting with different types of music and really developing their musical ability. The best music is produced creatively. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's the same in America and the rest of the world. It's called pop music. It's an industry. Expect manufacture, as well as catering to the lowest common denominator. No brains required.

If you want good music "produced creatively" I suggest you look a litte harder or start digging underground. Search Korean indie. There are many good bands with talent, invention, and a sound that in many cases I'd consider distinctly Korean and not just because some of these acts are laying &lt;i&gt;pansori&lt;/i&gt; over the guitar overdrive and double-bass-drum blast beat. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;you say copying American acts is better than copying from Japan.
Why not create something Korean?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The short of it is that the wealthy countries with the music that have their own flavors have been doing modern music for a very long time, have well established traditions.  It takes time. (And time will tell!)

My answer above, btw, also serves as my answer for why Koreans have a fondness for covers. Korea is still in a rather rudimentary stage of pop culture. 

Anyway, I feel terribly weak when I reply at length to these simple topics. No offense. Just being honest. The last word is yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll make this short and simple:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Have you heard the Korean versions of “I will survive” and “bepop shebop”?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Covers != rip-offs. Obviously. </p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone has an influence, of course. But to have an academy choose your identity as a musician, tell you whom to model yourself after, it prevents people from freely experimenting with different types of music and really developing their musical ability. The best music is produced creatively. </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s the same in America and the rest of the world. It&#8217;s called pop music. It&#8217;s an industry. Expect manufacture, as well as catering to the lowest common denominator. No brains required.</p>
<p>If you want good music &#8220;produced creatively&#8221; I suggest you look a litte harder or start digging underground. Search Korean indie. There are many good bands with talent, invention, and a sound that in many cases I&#8217;d consider distinctly Korean and not just because some of these acts are laying <i>pansori</i> over the guitar overdrive and double-bass-drum blast beat. </p>
<blockquote><p>you say copying American acts is better than copying from Japan.<br />
Why not create something Korean?</p></blockquote>
<p>The short of it is that the wealthy countries with the music that have their own flavors have been doing modern music for a very long time, have well established traditions.  It takes time. (And time will tell!)</p>
<p>My answer above, btw, also serves as my answer for why Koreans have a fondness for covers. Korea is still in a rather rudimentary stage of pop culture. </p>
<p>Anyway, I feel terribly weak when I reply at length to these simple topics. No offense. Just being honest. The last word is yours.</p>
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