The Yellow Fever Myth?

What do you get when two economists and two psychologists conduct a speed dating experiment at a bar near Columbia University? A debunking of the white men-prefer-Asian women myth, that’s what.

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  1. Gravatar Sonagi your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    One reason why white men might not have yellow fever after all is that they avoid women who seem more intelligent and more amibitious than themselves:

    and it turns out that men avoided women whom they perceived to be smarter than themselves. The same held true for measures of career ambition—a woman could be ambitious, just not more ambitious than the man considering her for a date.

  2. Gravatar mins0306 your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Adding to Sonagi’s comment intelligent and ambitious women also avoid men whom they perceive to be less intelligent and ambitious than them.

  3. Gravatar wjk your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 10:38 am | Permalink

    A white gaijin friend of mine once said, “I would have left Japan long ago if it weren’t for the women here, and you can quote me.”

    This article is a joke. I mean, why do men stay in Japan? They find Japanese girlfriends who give them that “plus alpha” (to use a Japanese phrase) that they can’t get from stuck-up (’scuse me) white girls at home. Why do while females who come to Japan go home much sooner, often after only one year? They can’t find guys to date. Silly, but totally true.

    plus alpha is a Japanese term, eh?

    I knew it was. I just didn’t have proof.

    Korea, stop copying Japan. Pakuri. Park-Lee.

    Is Pakuri a Japanese real word?

    Or is it the way Japanese refer to Korea, as in Park-Lee?

    Me wants to know.

    Sonagi, any girl who looks good is fake to you. I didn’t bother reading your whole comment. Nice comment preview.

    Lee vs Lee, Lee Hwae Chang is the same as Kim Dae Jung, Lee In Jae. I think Lee In Jae has more spine, and is much more sincere.

    Kyong Sang Do isn’t really conservative. It’s just plain regionalism.

    Lee Myung Bak will win, even with the dirty Lee running with Park’s ghost and ugly daughter.

  4. Gravatar wjk your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 10:41 am | Permalink

    oh, and I give more credence to my friend’s testimony. Because I know him and he sleeps around a lot.

    tight pussy syndrome.

    not, yellow fever, per say.

    thus, it’s sexist, demeaning, and degrading. Stop w/ the crap that you’re leaving us because the white man is more of a gentlemen. Keep that it mind, yellow girl.

  5. Gravatar Five Minutes of Care your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 10:42 am | Permalink

    From what I understand the idea of Yellow Fever is not solely that (all) white men prefer Asian women. The idea is that some white men (and arguably other races) hold a sexual fetish for Asian women (Or Asian men if you’re of the Gay community). Whether this isn’t a fetish and is more of a preference or is actually a fetish with its base in an imperialist subconscious (i.e. the conqueror [masculine] penetrating and subjugating the conquered [feminine]) is up for debate and, in my opinion, based highly on personal situations.

  6. Posted November 9, 2007 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    Would someone please wipe the drool off WJK’s face and get him a bib.

  7. Gravatar Hatch SZ your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    stream of consciousness writing has really infected wjk.

  8. Gravatar slim your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    If that’s the case, I’d like to see more consciousness and less stream.

  9. Gravatar Breaktrack your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Man, if I only dated girls who were dumber than me, I’d probably never date!! Call me crazy, but I’m not that attracted to Asian females all that much. I’m not saying they aren’t attractive. That being said, Korean girls don’t do much for me. I’m singling out Korean girls because “here is Korea.” Finding a mentally mature one (which do exist I know) is too much of a hassle. I’m into the buffed gym girl types anyway. I also am not physically attracted to girls with big heads. Superficial somewhat I am.

  10. Gravatar cmm your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:13 pm | Permalink

    Breaktrack you are in the wrong country. Maturity and knowledge of physical fitness (sorry girls, anorexia doesn’t count) are not too common in the girls here. Finding both traits in one girl would be remarkable. She’s probably a jaemigyopo.

    seems wjk was into the soju today. btw, asian girls and western girls… one is not tighter than the other.

  11. Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    Finding a mentally mature one (which do exist I know) is too much of a hassle.

    You know, this may depend in large part on where you’re looking.

  12. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    #4,

    The person who posted that is a moron. One nerdy friend with a fetish for Japanese women does not make the norm, does it?

  13. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Correction, #5,

    “oh, and I give more credence to my friend’s testimony. Because I know him and he sleeps around a lot.”

    Ha, so you are ‘that guy’, the one who is a moron.

  14. Gravatar bumfromkorea your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    “Yellow Fever” isn’t a widespread thing at all… But it does exist within a select few. I’ve been asked by some of my acquaintances (from class) to “hook” them up with some “cute Japanese girls” (Yes, they used plural… I know…). One of my friend actually “confessed” to me that he had a fetish problem with Asian girls… it was one of the most hilarious and uncomfortable conversation I’ve ever had (’…dude, why are you telling ME this?’)

    But the moral of the story is, such behaviors exist, but nowhere near frequent enough to be considered a social trend… I mean, yeah, some people have foot fetish, but… you know… “Whities like feet!” doesn’t quite demonstrate intelligence.

    “Finding a mentally mature one (which do exist I know) is too much of a hassle. ”

    “Maturity and knowledge of physical fitness (sorry girls, anorexia doesn’t count) are not too common in the girls here.”

    *rolls eyes* I’m just going to quote these two, and thereby demonstrating the asinine nature of the two statements.

  15. Gravatar snow your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    “or is actually a fetish with its base in an imperialist subconscious (i.e. the conqueror [masculine] penetrating and subjugating the conquered [feminine])”

    Yuck, please stop. We are discussing the real world here, not fake academic feminist sociological theory.

  16. Gravatar jameslayne your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    what’s up with all this discriminating?

    from “from dusk till dawn”

    “all right, p**sy, p**sy, p**sy! come on in p**sy lovers! here at the titty twister we’re slashing p**sy in half! give us an offer on our vast selection of p**sy, this is a p**sy blow out! all right, we got white p**sy, black p**sy, spanish p**sy, yellow p**sy, we got hot p**sy, cold p**sy, we got wet p**sy, we got smelly p**sy, we got hairy p**sy, bloody p**sy, we got snappin’ p**sy, we got silk p**sy, velvet p**sy, naugahyde p**sy, we even got horse p**sy, dog p**sy, chicken p**sy! come on, you want p**sy, come on in, p**sy lovers! if we don’t got it, you don’t want it! attention p**sy shoppers! take advantage of our penny p**sy sale! if you buy one piece of p**sy at the regular price, you get another piece of p**sy of equal or lesser value for only a penny! try and beat p**sy for a penny! if you can find cheaper p**sy anywhere else…fuck it!”

  17. Gravatar wjk your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 4:26 pm | Permalink

    someguy, I don’t sleep around. I am not jk.

    I am “w” jk.

    I have integrity.

  18. Gravatar SomeguyinKorea your flag
    Posted November 9, 2007 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    What are you talking about?

  19. Posted November 9, 2007 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    We rarely ever know, do we?

    > A woman’s race had no effect on the men’s choices.

    What, have guys stopped just choosing the lady with the biggest boobs…?

  20. Gravatar exexpatPete your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 12:05 am | Permalink

    Gad, we’re all a bit obsessed with this one, aren’t we? Why don’t we just go to the source and ask an Asian wife of a Cauc husband? Sure to be some insight there…or at least more than I’ve seen HERE.

  21. Gravatar abcdefg your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 12:43 am | Permalink

    wjk’s epitaph: “me wants to know.”

    Seriously, wjk. If you’re going to spew the contents of your innards in a post or two or three, couldn’t you at least filter some lines out?

  22. Gravatar nerdieboy your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 1:00 am | Permalink

    http://www.threeasianfags.com/ricequeens.htm

  23. Gravatar MigukNamja your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    My opinion is that “yellow fever” and “CCB” are terms for the exact same reason that “white fever” (when applied to white guys) and “Asian Chasing B!tch” (for Asian women) are not : nearly every culture expects and even attempts to enforce a homoculture dating policy.

    In other words, does anyone accuse someone who prefers to date same-race people of having a fetish ? Yet, pretty much all cultures accuse those who prefer to date someone else of another race as having a fetish.

    It’s racism, pure and simple.

  24. Gravatar Breaktrack your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 5:04 pm | Permalink

    Totally agree with your last sentence eventhough I don’t date the locals.

  25. Gravatar abcdefg your flag
    Posted November 10, 2007 at 5:31 pm | Permalink

    I totally disagree with that sentence.

    I don’t want to get into it but if I may sketch out a response in brief. Miguknamja’s post requires a cultural symmetry, but it doesn’t exist. Which leads to an important oversight he commits in his second paragraph in relation to “fetishes.”

    (People have fetishes for objects, by definition. It’s possible, however, to have fetishes for groups of “exotic” people about whom little information is known — outside of the media that potrays them as objects of sexual desire and not much more, anyway. Which is the case for Americans viz Asians, but not as much the case for Asians viz Westerners.)

  26. Gravatar MigukNamja your flag
    Posted November 11, 2007 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

    abcdefg,

    Relationships do not require equal attraction. Rather, they can roughly be viewed as the sum of both attractions. Thus, no cultural symmetry is required.

    As for fetishes, I don’t disagree that Western media tastelessly treats Asian women as forbidden sex objects, however:

    “…but not as much the case for Asians viz Westerners”.

    LMFAO. Have you been in Korea recently ? It’s quite amazing the degree that western women are treated as sex objects here. Ever heard of “riding the white horse ?” Also, ask any blonde who’s spent more than a week in Korea how she’s been treated and then tell me Asians don’t have fetishes for Westerners.

    Nice try, but shit sticks to all boots.

    To finish on a constructive note, however, the most logical explanation I can think of why you don’t see many Asian men + Western women is that most Asian men aren’t allowed to date Western women, much less actually marry them. Western women are literally taboo for most Korean men.

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