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	<title>Comments on: You Gyopo Need to be More Socially Aware</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LAKalbi</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/you-gyopo-need-to-be-more-socially-aware/#comment-193674</link>
		<dc:creator>LAKalbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to agree with you youcrazyfool until I realized the original post is a year old. And I just read it all :(
Still it was all very interesting.
Now I really want to know where to get a wong + wong not = white shirt.
Or the Chinese one that says white guys no read (baekinbukyong?) 
For my white guy friends ha ha ha.
Maybe someone should make a bumper sticker in Arabic that says "my other car is a bomb"
Racism is so stupid it should only ever be laughed at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to agree with you youcrazyfool until I realized the original post is a year old. And I just read it all <img src='http://www.rjkoehler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Still it was all very interesting.<br />
Now I really want to know where to get a wong + wong not = white shirt.<br />
Or the Chinese one that says white guys no read (baekinbukyong?)<br />
For my white guy friends ha ha ha.<br />
Maybe someone should make a bumper sticker in Arabic that says &#8220;my other car is a bomb&#8221;<br />
Racism is so stupid it should only ever be laughed at.</p>
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		<title>By: youcrazyfool</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/you-gyopo-need-to-be-more-socially-aware/#comment-193673</link>
		<dc:creator>youcrazyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slim- Alex Lee is poor writer and simply not learned or logical enough to pull off what he’s trying to do. Some of the issues that exercise him are valid and deserve serious treatment by someone.

Well, what can you expect- the guy is in (or maybe just got out of) college. I read the article last year so I don't remember 100% of it.

Where's Metropolitician when we need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slim- Alex Lee is poor writer and simply not learned or logical enough to pull off what he’s trying to do. Some of the issues that exercise him are valid and deserve serious treatment by someone.</p>
<p>Well, what can you expect- the guy is in (or maybe just got out of) college. I read the article last year so I don&#8217;t remember 100% of it.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s Metropolitician when we need him?</p>
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		<title>By: youcrazyfool</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/you-gyopo-need-to-be-more-socially-aware/#comment-193672</link>
		<dc:creator>youcrazyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>slim- Alex Lee is poor writer and simply not learned or logical enough to pull off what he’s trying to do. Some of the issues that exercise him are valid and deserve serious treatment by someone.

Well, what can you expect- the guy is in (or maybe just got out of) college. I read the article last year so I don't remember 100% of it.

Where's Metropolitician when we need him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>slim- Alex Lee is poor writer and simply not learned or logical enough to pull off what he’s trying to do. Some of the issues that exercise him are valid and deserve serious treatment by someone.</p>
<p>Well, what can you expect- the guy is in (or maybe just got out of) college. I read the article last year so I don&#8217;t remember 100% of it.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s Metropolitician when we need him?</p>
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		<title>By: youcrazyfool</title>
		<link>http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/11/08/you-gyopo-need-to-be-more-socially-aware/#comment-193516</link>
		<dc:creator>youcrazyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, some of you people are incredibly stupid- calling him a tool simply for disagreeing with you, excusing racist imagery under the guise of toilet humor. Either some of you are truly brainwashed race traitors (some gyopos on this board with their excessively harsh criticism) or closet racists. Some of you people would NOT even dare say anything of the likes to a Black person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, some of you people are incredibly stupid- calling him a tool simply for disagreeing with you, excusing racist imagery under the guise of toilet humor. Either some of you are truly brainwashed race traitors (some gyopos on this board with their excessively harsh criticism) or closet racists. Some of you people would NOT even dare say anything of the likes to a Black person.</p>
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		<title>By: youcrazyfool</title>
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		<dc:creator>youcrazyfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmc1233 posted 11-8-07 10:42AM
WAH!!! WAH!!! WAH!!! Two Wongs make it white? WAH!!! God, some people need to develop a thicker skin. Seeing that the shirt was a big hit in the Asian-American community, Alex should look in the mirror and recognize that he is a tool with no sense of humor.

Fuck off Kraut! Humor is way overrated, especially when used in this context. I say firebomb this company- problem solved. I hope most people on this board don't tolerate this 'redneck' sentiment posted above.

To dokdoforever- what was that racist kid doing in a Korean congregation? And did the Korean churchmembers throw him out afterwards? The church is the last place that should tolerate that kind of behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmc1233 posted 11-8-07 10:42AM<br />
WAH!!! WAH!!! WAH!!! Two Wongs make it white? WAH!!! God, some people need to develop a thicker skin. Seeing that the shirt was a big hit in the Asian-American community, Alex should look in the mirror and recognize that he is a tool with no sense of humor.</p>
<p>Fuck off Kraut! Humor is way overrated, especially when used in this context. I say firebomb this company- problem solved. I hope most people on this board don&#8217;t tolerate this &#8216;redneck&#8217; sentiment posted above.</p>
<p>To dokdoforever- what was that racist kid doing in a Korean congregation? And did the Korean churchmembers throw him out afterwards? The church is the last place that should tolerate that kind of behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: dokdoforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>dokdoforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pointless discussion - is it worthwhile to try to measure which gruop is more sensitive or discriminated against - Korean/Americans vs. Expats in Korea?  If anything, these two groups have a strong mutual interest in opposing discrimination, and should be able to understand each other, having lived in both societies.  When I was back in the US, I attended Korean services at a church nearby and made friends with Koreans in my neighborhood - it was a natural thing to do after living in Korea for a while.  I heard some stupid white kid say a snide remark about the Koreans in the congregation and it really pissed me off.  There are plenty of ignorant, uneducated racists in this world, and they need to be held in check, regardless of where they live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pointless discussion - is it worthwhile to try to measure which gruop is more sensitive or discriminated against - Korean/Americans vs. Expats in Korea?  If anything, these two groups have a strong mutual interest in opposing discrimination, and should be able to understand each other, having lived in both societies.  When I was back in the US, I attended Korean services at a church nearby and made friends with Koreans in my neighborhood - it was a natural thing to do after living in Korea for a while.  I heard some stupid white kid say a snide remark about the Koreans in the congregation and it really pissed me off.  There are plenty of ignorant, uneducated racists in this world, and they need to be held in check, regardless of where they live.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see. "Plainly ain't true"?  There was Andru in #12, Pawi in #23, Netizen Kim in #25.....

And white expats with two people of Korean descent (who to their credit, aren't known that much for whining about how native Koreans treat them).

May not be black and white (or yellow and white), but it wasn't absolutely nothing either.

"100% pro-Korea"?  Define that.  If you mean I am anti-over-the-board-and-excessive-bashing-of-Koreans, which is not the same as being "pro-Korea", then I am guilty as charged...but as I said, they are not the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see. &#8220;Plainly ain&#8217;t true&#8221;?  There was Andru in #12, Pawi in #23, Netizen Kim in #25&#8230;..</p>
<p>And white expats with two people of Korean descent (who to their credit, aren&#8217;t known that much for whining about how native Koreans treat them).</p>
<p>May not be black and white (or yellow and white), but it wasn&#8217;t absolutely nothing either.</p>
<p>&#8220;100% pro-Korea&#8221;?  Define that.  If you mean I am anti-over-the-board-and-excessive-bashing-of-Koreans, which is not the same as being &#8220;pro-Korea&#8221;, then I am guilty as charged&#8230;but as I said, they are not the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: slim</title>
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		<dc:creator>slim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Lee's latest muddleheaded piece is bitching about Korean Americans, not about whites. And even on those terms, he applies to his anonymous Korean-American subject a ridiculous and meaningless measure of social awareness -- reaction to A &#38; F after a lame and tastless idea for a tee shirt. For all we know, that guy hadn't heard of the Two Wongs tee-shirt incident he was being taken to task for. Alex Lee must not be aware of the brave folks of LiNK or a myriad KA church groups who do work to help North Korean refugees, to name one socially just cause.

The toughest criticism on this thread came from people who identify themselves as ethnic Korean (wangkon, abcde....) Marmot's approach was dismissive, based on a history with Alex Lee. Andy was reasonably sympathetic. I agree with corpy that Alex Lee is a "tool" although I expressed myself differently and in fact reconized that there were valid points that Alex Lee was groping for.  Not sure who tmc is up there, but his was the only comment that could remotely be called angry.

I'm a bit surprised that JK now would lament a tendency for comments to cleave along ethnic lines, when 1) It plainly ain't true in this particular thread and 2) JK himself has by my recollection a nearly 100% "pro-Korea" commenting record, whatever the argument or the topic at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Lee&#8217;s latest muddleheaded piece is bitching about Korean Americans, not about whites. And even on those terms, he applies to his anonymous Korean-American subject a ridiculous and meaningless measure of social awareness &#8212; reaction to A &amp; F after a lame and tastless idea for a tee shirt. For all we know, that guy hadn&#8217;t heard of the Two Wongs tee-shirt incident he was being taken to task for. Alex Lee must not be aware of the brave folks of LiNK or a myriad KA church groups who do work to help North Korean refugees, to name one socially just cause.</p>
<p>The toughest criticism on this thread came from people who identify themselves as ethnic Korean (wangkon, abcde&#8230;.) Marmot&#8217;s approach was dismissive, based on a history with Alex Lee. Andy was reasonably sympathetic. I agree with corpy that Alex Lee is a &#8220;tool&#8221; although I expressed myself differently and in fact reconized that there were valid points that Alex Lee was groping for.  Not sure who tmc is up there, but his was the only comment that could remotely be called angry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised that JK now would lament a tendency for comments to cleave along ethnic lines, when 1) It plainly ain&#8217;t true in this particular thread and 2) JK himself has by my recollection a nearly 100% &#8220;pro-Korea&#8221; commenting record, whatever the argument or the topic at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, taller than 5'7", pal. And I WISH I was 140 lbs.  You?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, taller than 5&#8242;7&#8243;, pal. And I WISH I was 140 lbs.  You?</p>
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		<title>By: dogbertt</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbertt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't you write that you are 5'7", 140 lbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t you write that you are 5&#8242;7&#8243;, 140 lbs?</p>
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